NFL Wants To Expand Rooney Rule To Coordinators

csirl

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One thing great about the NFL.is that the margins between success and failure are so slim that discriminating against any category of person will lead to failure. You need to be choosing people from the widest field of candidates to win.
 

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The Rooney Rule is an insult to blacks.
If I were a black coordinator being interviewed just to satisfy a league rule I would feel insulted. This ain't the 1960s and black coordinators have the same equal chance as the white ones just on the merits and qualifications.
 

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Have to love good old boys talking for minorities.

If you can establish that there is not a hiring bias then I can understand the negativity. You guys don't even bother to check.
 

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This isn't true. Certainly not saying the Rooney Rule is perfect, but this statement is not true at all.

Teams are going to hire or promote based on qualifications and accomplishments regardless of color.
 

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I base it on the amount of blacks that are head coaches and coaching staffs.

Such rigorous and well thought out reasoning. :rolleyes:

Can you even tell the number of minority coaches and total coaches in the NFL or is it the more likely answer of "enough."
 

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Teams are going to hire or promote based on qualifications and accomplishments regardless of color.

Jeff Fisher got hired in spite of his lack of accomplishments.

There is already a lot of talk of Jim Schwartz being up for a head coaching gig. His accomplishments aren't very good.
 

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Teams are going to hire or promote based on qualifications and accomplishments regardless of color.
If you think that, you're lost. Teams or any profession for that matter can be in their hearts doing what they think is the right thing and it still have an adverse affect on minorities.
 

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Such rigorous and well thought out reasoning. :rolleyes:

Can you even tell the number of minority coaches and total coaches in the NFL or is it the more likely answer of "enough."
As soon as Jeff Fisher was fired, the three names that were quickly rumored to be targets Jim Harbaugh, Josh McDaniels, and Jon Gruden.

One of those guys was already a failure as a head coach. One has no incentive to come out of the broadcast booth, and the other walks on water as a college coach.
 

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As soon as Jeff Fisher was fired, the three names that were quickly rumored to be targets Jim Harbaugh, Josh McDaniels, and Jon Gruden.

One of those guys was already a failure as a head coach. One has no incentive to come out of the broadcast booth, and the other walks on water as a college coach.
not sure why you left out David Shaw and put in Josh McDaniels
 

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not sure why you left out David Shaw and put in Josh McDaniels
I never heard him as a candidate. If he is a legitimate one, that's great. He had done a great job in college. Enough to be a part of search.
 

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there was a time that this rule may have been needed, right now it is nothing but a red herring. Teams will fill their schedule with an interview of Joe Minority Coach and still hire Bob Prime Candidate coach. The rule does nothing but plays lip service to what it is trying to do. I think Dennis Green refused to interview for a job because he knew he was the "Rooney Candidate"
 

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there was a time that this rule may have been needed, right now it is nothing but a red herring. Teams will fill their schedule with an interview of Joe Minority Coach and still hire Bob Prime Candidate coach. The rule does nothing but plays lip service to what it is trying to do. I think Dennis Green refused to interview for a job because he knew he was the "Rooney Candidate"
Dennis Green had skins on the wall as a head coach already. Other minority coaches who aren't as well known at least get their name out there as viable candidates even if they are a "token" interview. This is where the Rooney rule is effective. An example of this is Ron Rivera, who even interviewed for the Dallas job when it was clearly going to go to Wade Phillips. Ron Rivera's track record as a coordinator made him a viable candidate, the rule in place allowed other teams to explore why this guy keeps getting interviewed, token or not.
 

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Dennis Green had skins on the wall as a head coach already. Other minority coaches who aren't as well known at least get their name out there as viable candidates even if they are a "token" interview. This is where the Rooney rule is effective. An example of this is Ron Rivera, who even interviewed for the Dallas job when it was clearly going to go to Wade Phillips. Ron Rivera's track record as a coordinator made him a viable candidate, the rule in place allowed other teams to explore why this guy keeps getting interviewed, token or not.

I disagree, totally. So "unknown" minority candidates get a leg up on non-minority candidates because token minorities will shuttled to the front of the line. Might as well put in a quota and call it affirmative action.
 

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I disagree, totally. So "unknown" minority candidates get a leg up on non-minority candidates because token minorities will shuttled to the front of the line. Might as well put in a quota and call it affirmative action.
No they don't get a leg up. They get an opportunity to be identified as a viable candidate.
 
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