NFLDC: Draft Winners and Losers

[CrazyCowboy]

good to be recognized for something good for a change

 

[Hostile]

How was Detroit #2 overall? I liked Gosder Cherilus, but not at #17. Their best pick was probably getting Kevin Smith in the 3rd round. I actually like Tashard Choice better (no not because we got him) and we got him in the 4th.

I don't see how they can be the #2 best Draft. I don't see it at all.

New Orleans at 3 doesn't make sense to me either.

I would put KC at 1. How could they not be? They had a million high picks. Carolina would be 2 in my book. Dallas would be 3. Miami would be 4. Believe it or not Arizona would be 5 in my book.

Tennessee would be in my bottom 5 along with Atlanta and Houston who both panicked and reached for O-linemen. I would be tempted to put Baltimore there for reaching for Joe Flacco. Too high at 18. The only hesitation I might have is that the rest of their Draft was solid. I think Cleveland and Minnesota would round out my bottom 5, but I admit they used their picks for solid veterans. I just don't like completely selling your draft.

 

[skinsscalper]

How was Detroit #2 overall? I liked Gosder Cherilus, but not at #17. Their best pick was probably getting Kevin Smith in the 3rd round. I actually like Tashard Choice better (no not because we got him) and we got him in the 4th.

I don't see how they can be the #2 best Draft. I don't see it at all.

New Orleans at 3 doesn't make sense to me either.

I would put KC at 1. How could they not be? They had a million high picks. Carolina would be 2 in my book. Dallas would be 3. Miami would be 4. Believe it or not Arizona would be 5 in my book.

Tennessee would be in my bottom 5 along with Atlanta and Houston who both panicked and reached for O-linemen. I would be tempted to put Baltimore there for reaching for Joe Flacco. Too high at 18. The only hesitation I might have is that the rest of their Draft was solid. I think Cleveland and Minnesota would round out my bottom 5, but I admit they used their picks for solid veterans. I just don't like completely selling your draft.

I agree with the philosophy of not selling out your draft for vets, but to be honest, there's a chance that Minnesota and Cleveland could be two of the most improved teams in the league next season.

If Minnesota ever gets that QB (and WR, though I think that has a lot to do with a crappy QB) situation worked out, they are going to be REALLY tough to beat. The Lions are in a perpetual state of suck. The Bears couldn't find a QB if one hit them in the backside. The Packers? Well messiah #4 is out on a team that is young and most will say is on the rise. However, you have to wonder how much of that offensive production was directly due to Favre and his play-making abilities. Many will argue "Rodgers was killing Dallas when Favre went down. He's ready!" Hold your britches there for just a bit. Dallas had no film on Rodgers and, admittedly (though I disagree with the philosophy), backed off the defensive pressure to see if they could take advantage of Rodgers inexperience with a non-aggressive zone defense. He proved he could and gave the Packers a glimmer of hope in a game they had business even being in, at the end. Now, Rodgers is THE man (Brohm may have something to say about that). Will he be the same guy who was slinging the rock around Texas Stadium, or is he Joey Harrington? Time will tell, but facing those stout Minnesota and Chicago (yes, I still think they are a viable force that had a bad season) defenses will tell a lot about who the king of the North is. After their moves in the off-season, I think the Vikings are on the cusp of taking that whole division by the throat. If they figure out the QB position (as earlier mentioned) I think it's almost a lock.

Cleveland had a surprisingly good season last year (******T!!!!!). If Anderson continues to play at that level and the defense steps it up (no guarantees, but the moves they made for the players they got sure seems to indicate an improved front 7 unit) they could make a serious push to the upper echelon of the AFC. It helps, in their division, that the Ravens are clearly in a re-building mode, the Bengals are about to self-implode, and the Steelers didn't look all that special last year. Should be an interesting season league-wide, but I'll be watching Minnesota and Cleveland with particular interest.

 

[bbgun]

Tough year to be a Tide fan:

Well, the NFL Draft came and went, and not a single Alabama player was selected. Imagine: George Washington University had as many draftees as 'Bama, and GW hasn't fielded a football team since 1966.

 

[theogt]

Tough year to be a Tide fan:

Well, the NFL Draft came and went, and not a single Alabama player was selected. Imagine: George Washington University had as many draftees as 'Bama, and GW hasn't fielded a football team since 1966.

That'll change after a few years of Saban recruiting.

 

[DallasEast]

Tough year to be a Tide fan:

Well, the NFL Draft came and went, and not a single Alabama player was selected. Imagine: George Washington University had as many draftees as 'Bama, and GW hasn't fielded a football team since 1966.

The good thing for Alabama fans is that Nick Saban's recruits should change that trend in the very near future.

 

[DallasEast]

That'll change after a few years of Saban recruiting.

Beat me too it.

 

[TheCount]

How was Detroit #2 overall? I liked Gosder Cherilus, but not at #17. Their best pick was probably getting Kevin Smith in the 3rd round. I actually like Tashard Choice better (no not because we got him) and we got him in the 4th.

I don't see how they can be the #2 best Draft. I don't see it at all.

New Orleans at 3 doesn't make sense to me either.

I would put KC at 1. How could they not be? They had a million high picks. Carolina would be 2 in my book. Dallas would be 3. Miami would be 4. Believe it or not Arizona would be 5 in my book.

Tennessee would be in my bottom 5 along with Atlanta and Houston who both panicked and reached for O-linemen. I would be tempted to put Baltimore there for reaching for Joe Flacco. Too high at 18. The only hesitation I might have is that the rest of their Draft was solid. I think Cleveland and Minnesota would round out my bottom 5, but I admit they used their picks for solid veterans. I just don't like completely selling your draft.

The fact that the Lions didn't take a WR with their first pick was probably enough for most people to consider it a good draft.

The Saints though picked up 6 players that could end up starting in their draft, 4 of which will probably contribute immediately (Ellis, Porter, Mehlhaff and Arrington) so I think they definitely had a very good draft.

 

[dbair1967]

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Scott Wright
President, NFL Draft Countdown
It's probably unfair to start declaring teams "winners" and "losers" right after the draft, but oh well. Soon I will begin working on in-depth, team-by-team breakdowns for each and every selection but in the meantime here is a quick, very preliminary look at the teams who, in my opinion, did a good job along with those who did not fare as well:

Winners
1. Kansas City Chiefs

2. Detroit Lions

3. New Orleans Saints

4. Carolina Panthers

5. Dallas Cowboys



Losers
1. Tennessee Titans

2. Green Bay Packers

3. Washington Commanders

4. New York Jets

5. Atlanta Falcons

I still think the Lions had a lousy draft

David

 

[Vintage]

How was Detroit #2 overall? I liked Gosder Cherilus, but not at #17. Their best pick was probably getting Kevin Smith in the 3rd round. I actually like Tashard Choice better (no not because we got him) and we got him in the 4th.

I don't see how they can be the #2 best Draft. I don't see it at all.

New Orleans at 3 doesn't make sense to me either.

I would put KC at 1. How could they not be? They had a million high picks. Carolina would be 2 in my book. Dallas would be 3. Miami would be 4. Believe it or not Arizona would be 5 in my book.

Tennessee would be in my bottom 5 along with Atlanta and Houston who both panicked and reached for O-linemen. I would be tempted to put Baltimore there for reaching for Joe Flacco. Too high at 18. The only hesitation I might have is that the rest of their Draft was solid. I think Cleveland and Minnesota would round out my bottom 5, but I admit they used their picks for solid veterans. I just don't like completely selling your draft.

The Vikings gave up a 1st and 2 3rd rounders for one of the best pass rushers in the league...

I know you want Roy Williams to come to Dallas (and you wanted it to happen already via a trade). Would you have labeled our draft as bad for giving up a 1st and something else (which it likely would have required)?

The Vikes gave up a lot. But they also got a lot.

 

[Manster68]

That'll change after a few years of Saban recruiting.

Providing he doesn't prostitute himself somewhere else for $10 extra.

 

[Boysboy]

The Vikings gave up a 1st and 2 3rd rounders for one of the best pass rushers in the league...

I know you want Roy Williams to come to Dallas (and you wanted it to happen already via a trade). Would you have labeled our draft as bad for giving up a 1st and something else (which it likely would have required)?

The Vikes gave up a lot. But they also got a lot.

Yep-unlike the Skins in past years, the Vikes DID get a guy in EQUAL(or even greater) value than what they gave up.(and for that matter, Allen is only 26)

So it's not like they ended up getting the likes of Brandon Lloyd for giving up alot.

Ultimately-sure, I'm no fan of trading draft picks, but it all comes down to economics-do you get AT LEAST equal value in return?

 

[Brandon]

Scott Wright is one of the better "mockers" out there. His senior bowl blogging was superb and alot of his assessments of talent was solid.