NFLN A Football Life - Jimmy Johnson

[The Quest for Six]

I don't know if it was mentioned here but last night the NFLN carried the Jimmy Johnson, a football life which will be repeated throughout this week on NFLN and I thought it was outstanding television of the life of Jimmy Johnson and I suggest every cowboy fan watch it...And if there was anyone who doubted who was in charge of those Superbowl teams, this documentary will clear it up for you...Jimmy was in charge of everything regarding football around this team and you'll see that Jerry's ego started to get in the way of how Jimmy ran things and it just went down hill after that, Jerry wanted to take the credit and it rubbed Jimmy the wrong way....where have we seen that before...The speech in the piece Jimmy made at Miami earlier this year was classic Jimmy...the guy had a fire for football and it was no wonder why players would run through a wall for him out of FEAR of not performing, letting their teammates down or Fear of losing their jobs.....completely different than the country club atmosphere that's around Valley Ranch now

 

[Bleu Star]

I don't know if it was mentioned here but last night the NFLN carried the Jimmy Johnson, a football life which will be repeated throughout this week on NFLN and I thought it was outstanding television of the life of Jimmy Johnson and I suggest every cowboy fan watch it...And if there was anyone who doubted who was in charge of those Superbowl teams, this documentary will clear it up for you...Jimmy was in charge of everything regarding football around this team and you'll see that Jerry's ego started to get in the way of how Jimmy ran things and it just went down hill after that, Jerry wanted to take the credit and it rubbed Jimmy the wrong way....where have we seen that before...The speech in the piece Jimmy made at Miami earlier this year was classic Jimmy...the guy had a fire for football and it was no wonder why players would run through a wall for him out of FEAR of not performing, letting their teammates down or Fear of losing their jobs.....completely different than the country club atmosphere that's around Valley Ranch now

I watched it and I maintain that, had Jerry not been a stubborn buffoon, they would have won no less than three more championships together.

 

[Mike_45]

I watched it and I maintain that, had Jerry not been a stubborn buffoon, they would have won no less than three more championships together.

Agreed. Although I think Jimmy had a bit of an ego, but not on Jerrah's level.

I thought the show was great.

 

[Bleu Star]

Agreed. Although I think Jimmy had a bit of an ego, but not on Jerrah's level.

I thought the show was great.

Yes. Incredible show.

 

[Plankton]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in the show. I think that there was much more to Jimmy's time in Dallas that could have been captured.

That being said, he would not have won three, four or five in a row. I agree with the assessment of the show - he engineered his own departure. In the 1993 America's Game, he indicated that he was going to leave prior to the draft in 1994. If he desired to stay, then it would have been possible, but I don't believe that he wanted to stay.

Any more than Jones wanted him to.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in the show. I think that there was much more to Jimmy's time in Dallas that could have been captured.

I agree. It was pretty good, but it could have been much better. They spent too much time on the post-football happy fishing Jimmy IMO.

BTW, to the OP, Kilyn generously posted the entire video just a few threads down.

 

[Bleu Star]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in the show. I think that there was much more to Jimmy's time in Dallas that could have been captured.

Jimmy and Jerry are only going to let you know so much. Although the two were obviously at odds during that time frame, deep down inside, there is some semblance of respect for each other. You might need a microscopic tool to find it though.

That being said, he would not have won three, four or five in a row.

I disagree. Dallas was a hotbed of talent back in the early 90s and the triplets were all in the early stages of the prime of their careers. They would have easily gone deep into the playoffs for 2 or 3 more years.

I agree with the assessment of the show - he engineered his own departure. In the 1993 America's Game, he indicated that he was going to leave prior to the draft in 1994. If he desired to stay, then it would have been possible, but I don't believe that he wanted to stay.

Any more than Jones wanted him to.

He got tired of dealing with Jerry's buffoonery. Jimmy Johnson and his 30 years of coaching experience (with success at all levels mind you) should not have had to deal with a meddlesome owner with desires to take all the credit for personnel decisions that he obviously had nothing to do with. Jerry was signing dotted lines but he wasn't scouting, retrieving, and placing the talent in position. I don't blame Jimmy at all for deciding it was time to move on. You can only take so much of someone undermining your every approach.

 

[Plankton]

Jimmy and Jerry are only going to let you know so much. Although the two were obviously at odds during that time frame, deep down inside, there is some semblance of respect for each other. You might need a microscopic tool to find it though.

I'm not referring to the feud. I'm referring to his accomplishments. I'm referring to the actual turnaround of the team, and how he came up with the fishnet approach, etc.

I disagree. Dallas was a hotbed of talent back in the early 90s and the triplets were all in the early stages of the prime of their careers. They would have easily gone deep into the playoffs for 2 or 3 more years.

You misunderstand what I am saying - Jimmy had no intention of staying and coaching for the 1994 season. There would be no threepeat on that basis. He didn't want to be there. He said as much in the America's Game episode.

He got tired of dealing with Jerry's buffoonery. Jimmy Johnson and his 30 years of coaching experience (with success at all levels mind you) should not have had to deal with a meddlesome owner with desires to take all the credit for personnel decisions that he obviously had nothing to do with. Jerry was signing dotted lines but he wasn't scouting, retrieving, and placing the talent in position. I don't blame Jimmy at all for deciding it was time to move on. You can only take so much of someone undermining your every approach.

I completely agree.

 

[Bleu Star]

You could see the fire is still there too. Obviously he has moved on to making every moment of life with his family count. However, that motivational speech they covered at the U where he was talking to players coaches, and staff almost brought a tear to my eye.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in the show. I think that there was much more to Jimmy's time in Dallas that could have been captured.

That being said, he would not have won three, four or five in a row. I agree with the assessment of the show - he engineered his own departure. In the 1993 America's Game, he indicated that he was going to leave prior to the draft in 1994. If he desired to stay, then it would have been possible, but I don't believe that he wanted to stay.

Any more than Jones wanted him to.

I think Jerry pushing in on the credit annoyed Jimmy enough that he started wandering. Jimmy was a ego maniacal controlling taskmaster and Jerry attaching his name to Jimmy's moves was all it took for Jimmy to want out. I rewatch that NFC Championship game loss to the 49ers from time to time and each time I keep coming to the conclusion that Jimmy would not have allowed them to be so sloppy out of the box like they were. Better draft picks, more discipline, that team just lost so much when Jimmy walked out the door.

Darn shame, he was our ego maniacal controlling taskmaster

 

[erod]

Great show as these usually are. Some interesting new twists on stories I've long known.

It made Jerry look pretty bad. And those sunglasses....wow.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Kilyin's video - http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=246936

 

[gmb85]

I thoroughly enjoyed seeing a different side of Jimmy in the fishing arena.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Very good show.

Didn't really learn anything new.

Pretty much the same statements that have been made for years and cherry picked over for years to fit which ever side of the argument a person falls on.


Thankfully for me I blame them both for being spoiled children who screwed the Cowboys players, and fans, out of having a lot bigger and more historical run during that time.

 

[calico]

I'll have to set my DVD to catch a re-air. Is this the one where Jimmy said he was burnt out on being the bad guy all the time ?

Don't blame him, someone had to be the bad guy...

 

[fifaguy]

I was interested to see the Johnson-Belichick interaction on the boat. Billy has more SB rings but nonetheless seemed to be in awe of Jimmy, as is befitting given how Jimmy hit the NFL like a supernova.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'll have to set my DVD to catch a re-air. Is this the one where Jimmy said he was burnt out on being the bad guy all the time ?

Don't blame him, someone had to be the bad guy...

Yep. That's part of the interview when they start talking about what happened in Dallas that brought about the end. He made the point of mentioning that he was leaving regardless cause he was burnt out and didn't want to be the bad guy all the time anymore. Something like that. I've only watched it once so I haven't got the words down word for word or anything.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Jimmy was a perfect fit for Dallas. He was a psychology major and you could just see where he understood people and how you say things is just as important as what you say. I really liked that speech where he talked about 'fatigue makes cowards of us all' and then goes on to say 'it made a coward out of me, too.' Nothing tuned me out in my days of being an athlete where the coach acted like he was infallible and Jimmy understands that.

He was also a former DT in college and in order to be a good one, particularly when you're undersized like he was, you have to have a high motor. And Jimmy brought that forth in his coaching and you have to have that in Dallas because players get turned into faux superstars overnight and the media is always looking to build them up or knock them right down at any given moment.

I thought this was pretty good show because it shined light on a coach that had a Type A personality and found inner peace with giving it all up.





YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Yep. That's part of the interview when they start talking about what happened in Dallas that brought about the end. He made the point of mentioning that he was leaving regardless cause he was burnt out and didn't want to be the bad guy all the time anymore. Something like that. I've only watched it once so I haven't got the words down word for word or anything.

Jimmy said that he knew with success that people naturally start to rest on their laurels so with the first Super Bowl victory, he had to become even more the bad guy. After two Super Bowls, that just increases. In that sense, I don't think Jimmy was trying to knock Jerry...just explaining the nature of the coaching business and being successful.





YR