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I was able to catch the list up to Jackie Smith.........who did they list in the 2nd half of the show?

I am sure Ditka and Winslow.....possibly even Clark......did Novacek make the list at all?
 
10 was antonio gates
9 was some dude from the giants
8 was Tony Gonzalez I think

i don't remember the rest and i turned after a while.
 
seen it twice other than ditka no cowboys made it.

Witten is a better tight end that a couple, pisses me off slightly how people think a tight end is a wide receiver.

totally forgot about whats his name the tight end from the cards that dropped the pass. my mistake
 
Biggems;2125150 said:
I was able to catch the list up to Jackie Smith.........who did they list in the 2nd half of the show?

I am sure Ditka and Winslow.....possibly even Clark......did Novacek make the list at all?
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novacek made the "best of the rest" list of guys that almost made the top ten
 
How Tony G. is not in the top 3 of all time is beyond me., I didnt see the show but imo the top three of all time are (in no paticular order) Winslow, Sharpe and Gonzo. I think a guy like Ben Coates should make the latter half of the top 10.
 
playmakers;2125232 said:
How Tony G. is not in the top 3 of all time is beyond me., I didnt see the show but imo the top three of all time are (in no paticular order) Winslow, Sharpe and Gonzo. I think a guy like Ben Coates should make the latter half of the top 10.
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I was thinking the same thing about Coates. His numbers are alot better than Bavaro. Guess they gave it to Bavaro for "heart"
 
So Novacek was one of the best TEs of the 90s, was suparb in the playoffs and has 3 rings....yet Gates made the list and he didnt? That is horse pucky. Bavarro won the Super Bowl and was a vital part of that offense, so he deserves to be on the list as well.

I dont think Gates deserved to be there just yet.

BTW, I am sure Shannon Sharpe ended up in the top 3.
 
Gates hasn't played long enough. And these guys must not be old enough to have seen some of the better TE's from the 60s and 70s. Witten hasn't done it long enough. If he had to hang it up today would you put him in a top ten list? Not if you're honest IMO.

Mackey was the best TE I've ever seen but TE's weren't prominent targets in those days. They did get Ozzie and Ditka in there. Ditka couldn't hold a candle to Mackey although he was a very good TE. Ozzie wouldn't block anyone which I still hold against him. Winslow at least tried to block and did an ok job at it.
 
jobberone;2125244 said:
Gates hasn't played long enough. And these guys must not be old enough to have seen some of the better TE's from the 60s and 70s. Witten hasn't done it long enough. If he had to hang it up today would you put him in a top ten list? Not if you're honest IMO.

Mackey was the best TE I've ever seen but TE's weren't prominent targets in those days. They did get Ozzie and Ditka in there. Ditka couldn't hold a candle to Mackey although he was a very good TE. Ozzie wouldn't block anyone which I still hold against him. Winslow at least tried to block and did an ok job at it.
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I thought it was a huge compliment when that one fella said that Witten played like Jackie Smith.....cause Smith was one of the greatest ever.
 
DaBoys4Life;2125204 said:
10 was antonio gates
9 was some dude from the giants
8 was Tony Gonzalez I think

i don't remember the rest and i turned after a while.
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Shannon Sharp made the list. I think he was #4. Ditka was #3, Winslow was #2, and #1 was John Mackey. So Novacek and Witten didn't make it. I guess you can consider Ditka as a Cowboy though.
 
DaBoys4Life;2125204 said:
10 was antonio gates
9 was some dude from the giants
8 was Tony Gonzalez I think

i don't remember the rest and i turned after a while.
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must be kevin boss i guess. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
Witten will be making an impact on that list in a few years. At the rate this guy is going, his career stats will be amazing. Hard to believe he is only 25.
 
some dude from the giants? it was probably Bavaro, maybe one of the toughest football players ever.
 
Gates deserves it.

He is that offensive team's best receiving weapon which makes him a throwback to the Winslows of the world. He has 43 receiving TDs(which is amazing playing with TD-hog LT) and over 4300 yards receiving.

Kellen has only 2 more career Receiving Tds.

Jackie Smith had only 40 receiving TDs and was never All Pro, not even once.

Jason Witten has 4 Pro Bowls and 1 All-Pro to his credit already with 21 receiving TDs.

These new TEs are better and only good old days syndrome prevents noting that.

Witten is 25-30 pounds heavier than Jackie Smith and can flat out de-cleat people with his blocking.


Tony Gonzales has 66 receiving TDs and almost 10K yards receiving. He revolutionized the position. He is the best TE of all time. How do I know? Because every GM wants to find a Tony Gonzales to play for them right now.


Mackey was a monster but when his career was over he had 1 more Pro Bowl than Witten does now at 25 years old. Witten may very well pass him in receiving yards this year.
 
jterrell;2125331 said:
Gates deserves it.

He is that offensive team's best receiving weapon which makes him a throwback to the Winslows of the world. He has 43 receiving TDs(which is amazing playing with TD-hog LT) and over 4300 yards receiving.

Kellen has only 2 more career Receiving Tds.

Jackie Smith had only 40 receiving TDs and was never All Pro, not even once.

Jason Witten has 4 Pro Bowls and 1 All-Pro to his credit already with 21 receiving TDs.

These new TEs are better and only good old days syndrome prevents noting that.

Witten is 25-30 pounds heavier than Jackie Smith and can flat out de-cleat people with his blocking.


Tony Gonzales has 66 receiving TDs and almost 10K yards receiving. He revolutionized the position. He is the best TE of all time. How do I know? Because every GM wants to find a Tony Gonzales to play for them right now.


Mackey was a monster but when his career was over he had 1 more Pro Bowl than Witten does now at 25 years old. Witten may very well pass him in receiving yards this year.
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Clearly, you don't know much about Jackie Smith. Five straight Pro Bowls, twice all-NFL, Pro Football Hall of Fame. Played 121 straight games. Punishing blocker, great receiver, particularly after the catch. His 16.5 career YPC average is insane for a TE (Gonzalez's career avg is 12.1, his highest season avg 12.9), particularly in an era when receivers could be mugged until the ball was thrown. He retired as the all-time yardage gainer at the position, which he held until Ozzie Newsome broke it.

Realize that all the modern TEs are playing in an era whose rules heavily favor passing compared to the era of Smith, Mackey, Ditka, et al. And the fact that Witten outweighs Smith isn't saying much: due to modern weight training and nutrition (not to mention other "enhancements") all the players today are bigger. Smith would easily have been a 255 pounder today without a loss of speed or comparative strength, and had Witten been around in 1965, he'd probably have weighed about 240.

Smith was an unbelievable tight tend, well deserving of the Hall of Fame.
 
ozzie newsome was the best te to ever play this game..

sharpe is a close second..
 
jterrell;2125331 said:
Gates deserves it.

He is that offensive team's best receiving weapon which makes him a throwback to the Winslows of the world. He has 43 receiving TDs(which is amazing playing with TD-hog LT) and over 4300 yards receiving.

Kellen has only 2 more career Receiving Tds.

Jackie Smith had only 40 receiving TDs and was never All Pro, not even once.

Jason Witten has 4 Pro Bowls and 1 All-Pro to his credit already with 21 receiving TDs.

These new TEs are better and only good old days syndrome prevents noting that.

Witten is 25-30 pounds heavier than Jackie Smith and can flat out de-cleat people with his blocking.


Tony Gonzales has 66 receiving TDs and almost 10K yards receiving. He revolutionized the position. He is the best TE of all time. How do I know? Because every GM wants to find a Tony Gonzales to play for them right now.


Mackey was a monster but when his career was over he had 1 more Pro Bowl than Witten does now at 25 years old. Witten may very well pass him in receiving yards this year.
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I never heard of that Mackey guy but his video highlights looked pretty bad abs. That guy was like a wrecking ball...he even bulldozed his own player on the way to the endzone.
 
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