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I have to say I love the approach jerry is taking. For those that think the Jones family is clueless. I think they flipped all of you the bird. Very successfull fa, durant , sims, Spencer, Allen. Then restructuring romo. Essentially giving romo a new 4 yr deal. With a few fluff yrs he probably won't see. And if he does he would've earned it.

Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people
 

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I have no faith in Jerry, but so far this off-season I am fine with the current moves. Durant is a very nice pick-up. Allen provides experience and keeping Sims gives us depth. I think Free is only on the team until they can find an adequate back-up. I don't think we pick up anyone in FA, nor do I think we use our 1st on a tackle. I truly believe Parnell is the starter and they find a back-up in the 2nd or 3rd round.

In the draft, I think Cooper is the top choice, then Vacarro. I think both will be gone by 18 (Cooper to TN and Vacarro to Pit). I think if that happens, they will try and trade down and if successful, I think Eric Reid is greatly in play. He is shooting up the boards and last night I saw that Charles Davis from NFLN has him very close to being his #1 safety.

This draft is very key for next year's success. Health and OL play are key to 2013.
 

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We already have our starting safeties allen and church. But we need more depth there. But ya he does seem to be doing good so far.
 

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StarBoyz83;5039507 said:
We already have our starting safeties allen and church. But we need more depth there. But ya he does seem to be doing good so far.

When they signed Allen...they did not give him FA to come in to be a starter money.

Does not mean he will not be a starter, they just did not sign him for starter money...Just something to keep in mind.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;5039510 said:
When they signed Allen...they did not give him FA to come in to be a starter money.

Does not mean he will not be a starter, they just did not sign him for starter money...Just something to keep in mind.

Thats true but I just dont think we'll get anybody better than him this year.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;5039510 said:
When they signed Allen...they did not give him FA to come in to be a starter money.

Does not mean he will not be a starter, they just did not sign him for starter money...Just something to keep in mind.
That's true. Everything I've read is they really like Matt Johnson and figured Allen would be easier to beat out than Michael Huff.

So while Allen could be the starter, there will def be competion at the spot.
 
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Jerry has made multiple good moves over the years, over that time he has also shown a severe blind-spot to certain areas of the team (one in particular). As of yet, I have seen nothing to suggest that flaw has been corrected.
 

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LatinMind;5039505 said:
I have to say I love the approach jerry is taking. For those that think the Jones family is clueless. I think they flipped all of you the bird. Very successfull fa, durant , sims, Spencer, Allen. Then restructuring romo. Essentially giving romo a new 4 yr deal. With a few fluff yrs he probably won't see. And if he does he would've earned it.

Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people

Very good post, as Mr. Jones is FAR from clueless and he is without a doubt the BEST business minded owner in the NFL.

However, Mr. Jones, the GM of the Dallas Cowboys..... player personnel decisions at times can use a little NFL HR 101 refresher training.

I specifically referring to constant nightmares I have with Wr. Joey Throw-a-way a some good draft picks and Wr. Roy Willing to give away some more drafts picks that has absolutely killed us :bang2:

Other then that.......I still LOVE the guy because he really wants to win us another Super Bowl in the worst way--and I believe he will do it soon!

Go Cowboys!
 

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A career backup safety, a slightly above average 2 down linebacker, and franchising Spencer when the Seahawks signed 2 very comparable players for cheaper is a good off season? They are some very low standards.

Now I'm not gonna rip jerry and list a bunch of stuff he should have done because there just wasn't much to do this year. But let's not give a huge pat on the back because he hasn't screwed anything up yet either.

And I don't care what else he does, if the o line isn't vastly improved from last year the off season is a failure. So far there are no signs of this happening, but I'll reserve judgement for about another month.
 

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I know a lot of people on here do not like Garrett but it seems this new attitude of building a team coincides with Jason taking over. He may be a learning on the job game manager and not so strong in other points as a HC but he has a plan for building this team and I believe if Jerry LETS him build it the way his plan dictates Jason will build a team that will contend for the SB in a few years if not this or next.
In saying all of that, I don't trust Jerry Jones the GM one bit, yeah he got us three trophies but that was on the coattails of Jimmy, I still stick with 17 years of futility with everything changing including the stadium and the one remaining factor in the equation is the GM. If he allows Jason to do what he has planned I think a mini dynasty could be on the horizon, if he decides he needs the credit, I think we'll have to wait till there is slow singing and flower bringing for Jerry before we win again.
 

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StarBoyz83;5039512 said:
Thats true but I just dont think we'll get anybody better than him this year.

:laugh2:

Well if we can't find anyone better than him, expect another year of terrible safety play.

Personally, I think what we had last year is better than Allen. I'd take Charlie Peprah starting over this guy.
 

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LatinMind;5039505 said:
I have to say I love the approach jerry is taking. For those that think the Jones family is clueless. I think they flipped all of you the bird. Very successfull fa, durant , sims, Spencer, Allen. Then restructuring romo. Essentially giving romo a new 4 yr deal. With a few fluff yrs he probably won't see. And if he does he would've earned it.

Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people

No need to cut Free now. Wait till he is cap friendly to be cut, which is what June or July I think. No hurry.

Here we go again with the DT can't start posts. Ratliff is not the same player he was 2 years ago, has lost alot of his quickness. He can't stay healthy 16 games. Hatcher is not a sure thing he will make a seamless switch from 3-4 DE to 4-3 DT.
 

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WoodysGirl;5039516 said:
That's true. Everything I've read is they really like Matt Johnson and figured Allen would be easier to beat out than Michael Huff.

So while Allen could be the starter, there will def be competion at the spot.
This....

But feel pretty sure they plan to draft one too.
 

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LatinMind;5039505 said:
I have to say I love the approach jerry is taking. For those that think the Jones family is clueless. I think they flipped all of you the bird. Very successfull fa, durant , sims, Spencer, Allen. Then restructuring romo. Essentially giving romo a new 4 yr deal. With a few fluff yrs he probably won't see. And if he does he would've earned it.

Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people


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LatinMind;5039505 said:
Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people

I think Free is only on the team because there is no benefit to releasing him now versus releasing him on June 2nd. It gives the team some time to try and get a pay cut negotiated.

As far as trading up for Lane, he's probably going to go in the top 10 and there is no way we can afford this. This is especially true when Parnell showed he is at least as good as Free. We can win games with Parnell and he is likely to continue to improve by leaps and bounds given how raw he is in football experience. He has all the tools - you might argue his tools are as good as Tyron but they are just not as well known since he didn't go to the Combine. I'd actually probably rather trade up for Cooper but realistically we don't have the firepower to trade up for anyone given our holes on the roster.

As far as DTs, that is the strength of the draft. While it is true we have two quality players in Rat and Hatcher, both of them are over 31 and neither one has been the picture of health. Rat missed most of last year and there is little reason to expect him to be healthier as he ages He absorbed too much abuse from playing NT for too many snaps for his body to hold up. He is done and I'm upset that his contract was restructured as it will only create further barriers to release him in the future. We would have been in the drivers seat right now if we hadn't extended him as his contract would have expired at the end of last season. So I really think DT is a position that should be addressed in the first two rounds this year. DTs are extremely important in this defense and this draft is full of quality ones and we would be silly not to grab one. If Cooper is off the board our best decision may be to trade down if the big 3 are gone to the end of the first for an early 3rd or late 2nd and draft one of the guys who is still there (?Williams, Jenkins, Short).

This team could compete if the chips all fall into place but I still believe this to be an unlikely scenario. I believe that Rat is done and Ware might not be far behind. We have very little depth on the roster to make up for those kinds of losses. We have very little cap space available to patch it with mid-tier vets. We basically need a HR draft, excellent health, above average OL play from a far below average group of players and a career season from Romo.

I actually believe it will be very hard for us to ever compete with a hard cap with Jerry in charge. The only way it'll ever work is the scouts knock it out of hte park every year because otherwise Jerry will be inclined to continue to overpay all his declining vets with frontloaded contracts with lots of upfront money only to get stuck with restructured deals which creates lots of dead money on the cap which handcuffs the team in the future. The same scenario plays out every year. We were cap handcuffed for two years only for Jerry to blow it on a group of pretty mediocre players in the 2011 season/2012 offseason (Carr, Livings, Bernardeau, Connor, Sensy, Oscan, Vickers). The only one of those players who is a quality starter is Carr and we gave him eight figures. That is a blueprint designed for failure. That is why we fail every year. That is why we will find ourselves unable to extend our core players when the time comes in the next couple of years.

Sadly our only hope is for something bad to happen to Jerry and cause him to give up the GM position. We also need for Stephen to realize he is in over his head and hire someone to handle the GM job and step away from negotiating the contracts where he is an abject failure at delivering value.
 

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Not a fan of Jerry's work over the last 17 years.....

I was glad when we re-signed Simms though. I liked what he brought to the table last year filling in and think he is more than a capable backup.
 

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LatinMind;5039505 said:
I have to say I love the approach jerry is taking. For those that think the Jones family is clueless. I think they flipped all of you the bird. Very successfull fa, durant , sims, Spencer, Allen. Then restructuring romo. Essentially giving romo a new 4 yr deal. With a few fluff yrs he probably won't see. And if he does he would've earned it.

Dallas needs a good draft and this team is contending. I think free still being on the team is a sign that Dallas is targeting tackle in the the draft. If the felt comfortable with Parnell free would be gone by now. I wouldn't be suprised typo see a trade up for Lane if he drops enough that it doesn't cost much to move up. Or the team just drafting fluker in rd1. I can't see any dt in this draft that could be available to Dallas that would impact more than Ratliff or hatcher. Depth is fine but this team needs a starting safety before DT.

I'm getting excited for this yr. I think this team is going to suprise alot of people
They have been flipping us the bird for 17 years now.(1 playoff win)how have it worked out for the Jones family? i think you know. giving Romo all that money was crazy.
 

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Kind of early to be waving the victory flag, no? I bet some people said the same thing about the Pool signing, and he couldn't even make it through camp. I don't mind Allen, but he doesn't have much competition behind him. He is a scrub. Durant is a good player, and we will definitely need depth at LB.
 

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Really? How has the team improved from the team last year. Many of the teams key players are all aging and on the downslope of their careers - Romo, Witten, Ware.

Dallas lost their only "decent" safety Sensabaugh. Dont give me the journeyman Allen replacement crap.

There is no answer at RT, C, or either guard positions that inspires confidence.

They haven't added much of anything in free agency. Why? Because of the Jones' handling of the cap.

Drafting at 18 might add a solid player but with Dallas' track record I wouldn't count on it. From 2007- 9 I think there are only two starters and Scandrick left from what should be the core of this team.
 

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mmillman;5039663 said:
Really? How has the team improved from the team last year. Many of the teams key players are all aging and on the downslope of their careers - Romo, Witten, Ware.

Dallas lost their only "decent" safety Sensabaugh. Dont give me the journeyman Allen replacement crap.

There is no answer at RT, C, or either guard positions that inspires confidence.

They haven't added much of anything in free agency. Why? Because of the Jones' handling of the cap.

Drafting at 18 might add a solid player but with Dallas' track record I wouldn't count on it. From 2007- 9 I think there are only two starters and Scandrick left from what should be the core of this team.
Will you please stop letting facts get in the way of all these happy fans. Jerry is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
 
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