No excuses for the Vikings

Cowboysheelsreds053

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Don’t know about compliants on a victory like this over the vikes, other than this is the a— whipping we should have laid on the cheese heads also with the better team.
 

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I believe this is a call-out thread by Rockport based on the thread I created with the header, "Vikings played into our hands." What I pointed out is that the Vikings did not try to follow the game plan of either of the teams before them. Minnesota had been a better passing offense than either of those teams and they thought they could beat us with balance (their first 18 plays were nine runs, nine passes, if I remember correctly). It was a poor game plan by them considering the issues our run defense had been having.

I'm not going to go back and look at the play-by-play again, but I know on their first drive, they ran for 4 on first down, 3 on second down, then tried to pass and it resulted in a strip-sack. Then, on the field-goal drive, they moved down the field with a combination of runs and passes, then after running for 8 yards on first down, they passed twice to stall out. There were multiple instances of them passing on third-and-2 or third-and-3, when Green Bay or Chicago probably would have run the ball.

All of that was simply observation that Minnesota tried to play their game on offense and it was a game we were better suited to stop. It doesn't mean they would have fared any better if they had tried to run more, but Cook did average 6.6 yards per carry, so maybe they would have.

Rockport sees any kind of critical thinking about what happened in a game as some kind of affront and a reason to try to bully those who make the remarks. It's amazing to me the leeway that Rockport's given to call other members haters, fools or whatever else.

My point was that Minnesota may be an outlier as far as how teams will approach us. New York will most likely try to run on us until we can stop it, partially because their passing game isn't as strong as Minnesota's (and I believe they have four starting OL missing this game). I expect the Giants to use a game plan more similar to Chicago's since Jones is an effective runner. Lots of RPOs where they block down on the rest of the line and leave an end unblocked facing the choice of taking the RB, taking the QB or taking the TE in the flats. It will be interesting to see if we've developed a counter to that after Chicago hurt us with it multiple times.

This is the kind of discussion some of us were having in that other thread. But like I said, Rockport just sees it as excuses for some reason. Personally, I enjoy discussion much more than call-out, name-calling threads, but it's clear that some don't. The fact that the Vikings used a poor game plan against us does not in anyway take away from the fact that we waxed them, but some just apparently can't understand anything more complex than "Dallas good, Vikings bad."

It's refreshing that there are some that enjoy discussing the chest match that football really is.

It is equally tiresome having to be scolded by those who consider any type of discussion , criticism or analysis a hate crime against our team and feel the need to write all the wrongs and pound their chest when their horse comes in
 

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Nope... the words they type doesn't reflect happy moods after a victory. Since you're being their representative..... explain why the type only negative stuff after mistakes, but never type positive things after big plays or big wins....

Explain why they text from Sunday to Sunday when we lose, but don't text until Thursday or Friday after we win.


I'll wait.....
Keep waiting then. I'm "representative" of nobody but myself.

I only expressed caution of interpreting moods and intentions from a few words on a screen. Or lack of, as the case may be.

Especially for the soul purpose of digging up some fights.

Carry on as you will.
 

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It's refreshing that there are some that enjoy discussing the chest match that football really is.

It is equally tiresome having to be scolded by those who consider any type of discussion , criticism or analysis a hate crime against our team and feel the need to write all the wrongs and pound their chest when their horse comes in
Very well said Blackrain. My compliments on your verbiage, brevity, and clarity.
 

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Because deep down some prefer to lose so they can complain, and when we win easily, they cannot complain. Furthermore, Dak played well and they believe he sucks so if he plays well, there must be a reason outside himself.
I didn't see anyone say he sucks last game. I saw a LOT of compliments even from his most frequent critics.

I saw someone present some QB stats when it was claimed "DAK whipped up on the Vikes"...suddenly it ISN'T a team game?

That stat comment was very matter of fact, without hate or vitriol. Also added Dak played a very good game. Along with the rest of the team of course.

Some also thought Dak needs to play more consistently like that...."within the system", as it were.


IF that is what you (and certain others) call "hate"....might be a little tooo sensitive about it.

Since we're talking about hypocrisy....You don;t complain about people that call it a team game when Dak loses but sing his single praises when we win.
 

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It's refreshing that there are some that enjoy discussing the chest match that football really is.

It is equally tiresome having to be scolded by those who consider any type of discussion , criticism or analysis a hate crime against our team and feel the need to write all the wrongs and pound their chest when their horse comes in
Thank you! That is the very reason for most of the tension and name calling here. Critizising Dak, the team or the FO? Hater! But despite games like against the Vikings, Rams or Bengals this team often leaves alot to desire and I can't see the problem with enjoying a win on one hand but trying to find the parts of the puzzle that are still missing at the same time. I guess that's what the coaches are trying to do non stop. And after all we're all armchair managers / coaches anyway. :D
 

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I didn't see anyone say he sucks last game. I saw a LOT of compliments even from his most frequent critics.

I saw someone present some QB stats when it was claimed "DAK whipped up on the Vikes"...suddenly it ISN'T a team game?

That stat comment was very matter of fact, without hate or vitriol. Also added Dak played a very good game. Along with the rest of the team of course.

Some also thought Dak needs to play more consistently like that...."within the system", as it were.


IF that is what you (and certain others) call "hate"....might be a little tooo sensitive about it.

Since we're talking about hypocrisy....You don;t complain about people that call it a team game when Dak loses but sing his single praises when we win.

feeling a little defensive are you...
 
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