No identity? are you crazy?

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I am sick of people saying this team has no identity

How can you guys complain week after week after week about how many passes we throw and then turn around and say we have no identity?

Whether you like it or not, we ARE a passing team. The IDENTITY of this team is in our passing attack.

Now if you don't like the fact that our IDENTITY is a passing team that is a different story but don't sit here and say that we have no identity. Because it SHOULD be very clear that this team is a passing team.
 
I pretty much agree. We are a team that passes to set up the run. I don't like it.......but I have accepted it.
 
So our identity is to throw for 350yds and score 7 points a game!!!

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo..........

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GloryDaysRBack;3573604 said:
I am sick of people saying this team has no identity

How can you guys complain week after week after week about how many passes we throw and then turn around and say we have no identity?

Whether you like it or not, we ARE a passing team. The IDENTITY of this team is in our passing attack.

Now if you don't like the fact that our IDENTITY is a passing team that is a different story but don't sit here and say that we have no identity. Because it SHOULD be very clear that this team is a passing team.


OK. Then we should probably trade two of the three RBs we have, maybe keep the on that can pass block and catch best and just stop talking about offensive balance. If that's who we are, we as fans should stop complaining as well because no team, in the history of the game, as won throwing as much as we are. We, as fans, should accept that we probably are not going to win. We should all just admire the offense for what it is. No more Red Zone execution complaining. We should feel good about our ability to move the ball between the 20s.

If that's what we are, then we should not complain that we are not winning.
 
Our identity was defined by Parcells.

"Laissez faire'" is our motto.

Sadly for Dallas, the true identity of any NFL team starts in the trenches.
 
We are the only passing team in the history of man kind that rarely throws to the backs or TEs and never goes deep.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3573604 said:
I am sick of people saying this team has no identity

How can you guys complain week after week after week about how many passes we throw and then turn around and say we have no identity?

Whether you like it or not, we ARE a passing team. The IDENTITY of this team is in our passing attack.

Now if you don't like the fact that our IDENTITY is a passing team that is a different story but don't sit here and say that we have no identity. Because it SHOULD be very clear that this team is a passing team.

Funny you say that we have an identity. One of the defenses captains doesn't think we have an identity. I guess you know better than him.

Also heard Jason Garrett say that he strives to be a balanced attack and that we have been getting away from that because we have played from behind so we have had to pass more than we originally want to.

Identity comes from your teams football philosphy and approach. Not from you saying you're gonna run or pass more. Or just saying you're a defensive team or offensive team.
 
AKATheRake;3573657 said:
Funny you say that we have an identity. Once of the defenses captains doesn't think we do.

thats why he plays defense
 
Doomsday;3573656 said:
We are the only passing team in the history of man kind that rarely throws to the backs or TEs and never goes deep.

I do agree here
 
GloryDaysRBack;3573664 said:
thats why he plays defense

No that's why he was drafted 5th overall and has been our starting corner since Parcell's first season here.

That's why he's a professional football player in the sports most recognized league.

That's why he's been to the pro bowl and makes millions of dollars a year.

He actually sits in the team meetings and gets to see the whole teams infrastructure and actually has to work within it.

He's a player and players are the reason fans pay out of their ying yang to watch this team, league and sport.

He's in a more credible position than you.

That's why he plays defense. :bang2:

You don't get it man!
 
GloryDaysRBack;3573664 said:
thats why he plays defense

Here's some questions for you if you can kindly answer them.

Are we an offensive or defensive team?

Who is our go to player in the clutch on offense?

Do we play smash mouth football or finesse football?

Are we a high powered offense or a grind it out ball control type offense?

Who do the players answer too ultimately?

Who lays out the punishments?

What are the mandatory punishments?

Who creates the ultimate game plan on game days?

I can go on and on

Most of those questions create a lot of "I'm not sure", more than 1 answer or gray areas.

That's not identity. Identity right or wrong would give you a definite answer.
 
I think one of our identities if anyone really wants to play that card is real simple, we took it away from Romo. Even tho his stats has gotten better, lets face it, hes a movable slinger and I think that worked better for the team.

This whole corral in the mistakes has been holding us back. I think I would rather live with the 2 interceptions, but points galore.

Am i wrong on this?
 
AKATheRake;3573700 said:
No that's why he was drafted 5th overall and has been our starting corner since Parcell's first season here.

That's why he's a professional football player in the sports most recognized league.

That's why he's been to the pro bowl and makes millions of dollars a year.

He actually sits in the team meetings and gets to see the whole teams infrastructure and actually has to work within it.

He's a player and players are the reason fans pay out of their ying yang to watch this team, league and sport.

He's in a more credible position than you.

That's why he plays defense. :bang2:

You don't get it man!

first and foremost, I was clearly joking when I said thats why he plays defense..I guess that went over your head..but that is beside the point
 
kmp77;3573613 said:
So our identity is to throw for 350yds and score 7 points a game!!!

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo..........

haha exactly

we definitely have an identity--problem is that it sucks
 
AKATheRake;3573727 said:
Here's some questions for you if you can kindly answer them.

Are we an offensive or defensive team?

Who is our go to player in the clutch on offense?

Do we play smash mouth football or finesse football?

Are we a high powered offense or a grind it out ball control type offense?

Who do the players answer too ultimately?

Who lays out the punishments?

What are the mandatory punishments?

Who creates the ultimate game plan on game days?

I can go on and on

Most of those questions create a lot of "I'm not sure", more than 1 answer or gray areas.

That's not identity. Identity right or wrong would give you a definite answer.

I can answer all of these questions for you

Defensive team
Austin and Witten
Finesse
closer to high powered but neither right now...definitely not a smash mouth team
Wade
Wade
I dont work with or for the team so I cant say
Wade on D / Garrett on O
 
ShiningStar;3573733 said:
I think one of our identities if anyone really wants to play that card is real simple, we took it away from Romo. Even tho his stats has gotten better, lets face it, hes a movable slinger and I think that worked better for the team.

This whole corral in the mistakes has been holding us back. I think I would rather live with the 2 interceptions, but points galore.

Am i wrong on this?


With the players he has now it wouldn't be 2 INT's a game because he has more sure weapons and a defense that can keep them in the game where in the starting years of his career the defense was constantly giving up huge plays of it's own so he constantly had to gamble to keep us in it.

His aggression scared defenses and we went down the field as much as any team in the league at that point. Usually top 3 in big play offense combined with yardage and points scored.

Romo's ability to move around and throw accurately outside of the pocket was a unique skill set that was a wrinkle opposing defenses had to consider. It makes the offense that much more unpredictable.

We don't attack every part of the field, we don't make the run game relevant enough. We don't adjust and we have forced Romo to be very 1 dimensional himself. A quick out passer within 15 yards.

We don't go out and do the Cowboy thing, whatever that is supposed to be and then make in game adjustments and tweaks. We let other teams do their things defensively and offensively and we try to counter. If we're so talented than we should do what we do and dictate the game from the start. Force teams to adjust to us.

Then we make necessary adjustments and throw in new wrinkles that are well practiced to keep the opposition honest on both sides of the ball. See, that's preparation and game planning. Plan A, B and C as necessary while your team is in the game. All well practiced so that execution is not a problem.

We should know what other teams players strengths are and devise schemes on both sides of the ball to make them have to do what they prefer to do least against us.

We're not prepared and what we are prepared on, we don't execute because it doe's not compliment the personnel or incorporate them at the right time.
 
AKATheRake;3573727 said:
Here's some questions for you if you can kindly answer them.

Are we an offensive or defensive team?

Who is our go to player in the clutch on offense?

Do we play smash mouth football or finesse football?

Are we a high powered offense or a grind it out ball control type offense?

Who do the players answer too ultimately?

Who lays out the punishments?

What are the mandatory punishments?

Who creates the ultimate game plan on game days?

I can go on and on

Most of those questions create a lot of "I'm not sure", more than 1 answer or gray areas.

That's not identity. Identity right or wrong would give you a definite answer.


To be honest with you, its about consistency and no one has put it together. I think its becoming a mish mosh of some good and some bad and really you cant stablize it against each team because we play down to our opponents.

When Romo first came on the scene as the starter and didnt have wade wilson, i thought he played his best and this was an offensive team that year. Get that ball out and sailing across the field and lets see what it does.

It seemed like the defense just had to hold and didnt have to do to much, hence the lack of turnovers we see today.

Our Oline is filled with some big boys and you look at Kosier and say "huh". he works, but does he work well enough to keep.

Our defense has good corners but we cant get that saftey to help. I think everyone is okay if it was scrapped and redone. Maybe Campo doesnt have it anymore.

We thougth we were deep at CB, and remember everyone dancing for Orlando. Short dance, but it happened. Welcome Jenkins, and Newman is solid and it drops after that.

Running back is way to crowded and we should have said good bye to TC for his own good.

I have no complaints with Roy this year and Ogletree and hurd need to go.


I said this in a few posts before, its time for a GM who sees talent and not here to make friends.

Its time to bring in guys to do the 3-4 and do it well because if Hazlett has got it done in 1 season im going to be irked that he does it already and we cant get nothing out of our unit as its supposed to do. the 3-4 was to hide the blitz and we dont utlizie it enough to make it worth our while.

WE need a new scouting crew, bottom line. This whole we can get 100 dollars out of 50 cent guys is not working. Lee might be a good player but hes not playing on the Oline.

its time to bring in guys who want to build something and not slap it together and trot it out.
 
I still cant stomach why a team that has Tony Romo at QB Miles Austin at receiver along with Dez Bryant, cant score points.

Are they not as good as we think? Are they not being put in positions to be most successful?

You would think we would flourish with the passing attack with the players we have and We arent. I dont know how to fix this without the easy lets just fire them all. This team is so frustrating.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3573753 said:
I can answer all of these questions for you

Defensive team
Austin and Witten
Finesse
closer to high powered but neither right now...definitely not a smash mouth team
Wade
Wade
I dont work with or for the team so I cant say
Wade on D / Garrett on O

I apologize for not getting your sarcasm on the "that's why he plays defense" remark.

The first 1 you can't say defensive or offensive team clearly. That's a sign of identity lack.

The second 1 you are right but when you need 1 play to win the game it's supposed to be clear who is supposed to make it for you. That's a sign of identity lack.

The 3rd 1 I would also say we're more finesse but that's not what the team see's. We're supposed to be a physical team. We're bigger than the other teams personnel wise. Identity lack again.

On both Wade answers, yes it should be him but it's not. It's clearly Jerry. Coach identity lack.

The next 1, if you can't say, then that's another example of identity lack.

The last one. Wade and Garrett? You're right but ultimately the HC is supposed to work all 3 facets into an ultimate game plan so that they can compliment the overall game plan together. More identity lack.

All three game plans seem to wing it out on game days. That's not because there is no plan, it's just that there's 3 plans that don't coincide together with an ultimate game plan. There's 3 pieces that are not coincided to make 1 ultimate game plan.
 
ABQCOWBOY;3573625 said:
OK. Then we should probably trade two of the three RBs we have, maybe keep the on that can pass block and catch best and just stop talking about offensive balance. If that's who we are, we as fans should stop complaining as well because no team, in the history of the game, as won throwing as much as we are. We, as fans, should accept that we probably are not going to win. We should all just admire the offense for what it is. No more Red Zone execution complaining. We should feel good about our ability to move the ball between the 20s.

If that's what we are, then we should not complain that we are not winning.

I think people will complain no matter what this team does. Run first, people will complain. Pass first, people will complain. Win ugly, people will complain. Lose, and we definitely hear complaints. I've said for the past few years to my neighbor that this team is starting to look like the Eagles with all the passing that they are doing.
 

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