No QB at 4 but trade back into end of 1st!

[ferrispata]

I am of the personal opinion that we should not select a QB at 4 (and I honestly don't think we will). What I could see happening is Jerry trading back into the end of the 1st round to select his future QB, that way he has the 5th year option.

 

[RandyOh]

Just who do you feel would be that QB Jerry would pick late in the 1st?

 

[Mountaineerfan]

What a waste being at 4 to drop into the late first. I don't see them dropping out of top ten.

 

[texbumthelife]

What a waste being at 4 to drop into the late first. I don't see them dropping out of top ten.

He said trade back up into the first. He isn't vacating the #4 pick, just not taking a QB there and instead trading back into the late first to get one.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

He said trade back up into the first. He isn't vacating the #4 pick, just not taking a QB there and instead trading back into the late first to get one.

We would have to get an haul to take the chance of moving around that much. Just my opinion I like safe not sorry.

 

[CATCH17]

I am of the personal opinion that we should not select a QB at 4 (and I honestly don't think we will). What I could see happening is Jerry trading back into the end of the 1st round to select his future QB, that way he has the 5th year option.

I want Wentz at 4..

If I can't get him at 4 I don't see any real elite talent that is worthy of that pick and if some other team does then let them pay us for that pick.

Im all for a trade down if I can't get Wentz.

Absolutely no way do I pass on a talent like Carson Wentz though.

 

[CATCH17]

He said trade back up into the first. He isn't vacating the #4 pick, just not taking a QB there and instead trading back into the late first to get one.

Ah, I read it wrong myself.

I'll pass on the rest of these QB's..

Wentz is the only guy worth committing on imo.


I don't think any of these other guys have the potential to be elite. Goff, Lynch, or any of the rest of them.

 

[texbumthelife]

We would have to get an haul to take the chance of moving around that much. Just my opinion I like safe not sorry.

I'm not the one who said it. I simply restated it for the people who misunderstood.

 

[ferrispata]

As Tex clarified, I meant to make the pick at 4 but for a Non-QB (best player available, ideally DE, LB, DT, CB), and then trade back into the 1st round (we are a early 2nd so would not have to give up a ton to trade into the end of 1st), to pick up that QB. Now I am not saying that I am for this, but I could see Jerry doing it to gain that 5th year option. With that being said, I just don't like grabbing a QB in the first in most cases, especially early first, unless there is a clear top-notch QB.
Either way, I will be excited with who they pick though.

 

[LandryFan]

As Tex clarified, I meant to make the pick at 4 but for a Non-QB (best player available, ideally DE, LB, DT, CB), and then trade back into the 1st round (we are a early 2nd so would not have to give up a ton to trade into the end of 1st), to pick up that QB. Now I am not saying that I am for this, but I could see Jerry doing it to gain that 5th year option. With that being said, I just don't like grabbing a QB in the first in most cases, especially early first, unless there is a clear top-notch QB.
Either way, I will be excited with who they pick though.

Correct. Dallas' 2nd rounder (34th pick) is worth 560 points, and KC's 28th (KC is just an example) in the first round is worth 620. based on that, Dallas could swap with KC by giving up their 2nd and 4th round pick (560 + 68 points = 628 points). Given that Dallas has a fourth round comp pick, I could see them willing to give up their fourth rounder to move up. Not saying they will, just saying it's very realistic based on what it would take to make such a trade. As you stated, losing 8 points in the trade in exchange for the 5th year option on a first round player should be a no brainer if that's the route they decide to go. On the other hand, any team involved in such a trade would know that they're giving up a fifth year option on a player, so there is that to consider.

 

[NeonNinja]

Who is the target in the trade up? I don't see one.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Ah, I read it wrong myself.

I'll pass on the rest of these QB's..

Wentz is the only guy worth committing on imo.


I don't think any of these other guys have the potential to be elite. Goff, Lynch, or any of the rest of them.

Exactly

 

[Aven8]

Who is the target in the trade up? I don't see one.

Could be Dak.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Ah, I read it wrong myself.

I'll pass on the rest of these QB's..

Wentz is the only guy worth committing on imo.


I don't think any of these other guys have the potential to be elite. Goff, Lynch, or any of the rest of them.

Lol my bad.

 

[conner01]

Who is the target in the trade up? I don't see one.

That would be my question
After the top 3 are gone who would be the target worth a first rnd pick

 

[Beast_from_East]

Goff, Wentz, and Lynch are the only 3 QBs that have first round grades so who exactly are we trading up for in the bottom of the first round?

 

[darthseinfeld]

I want Wentz at 4..

If I can't get him at 4 I don't see any real elite talent that is worthy of that pick and if some other team does then let them pay us for that pick.

Im all for a trade down if I can't get Wentz.

Absolutely no way do I pass on a talent like Carson Wentz though.

Funny, you read CZ and you swear we cant pass up a monumental defensive talent at 4

IMO 2 of the top 4 overall prospects in this draft are QB's

 

[darthseinfeld]

As Tex clarified, I meant to make the pick at 4 but for a Non-QB (best player available, ideally DE, LB, DT, CB), and then trade back into the 1st round (we are a early 2nd so would not have to give up a ton to trade into the end of 1st), to pick up that QB. Now I am not saying that I am for this, but I could see Jerry doing it to gain that 5th year option. With that being said, I just don't like grabbing a QB in the first in most cases, especially early first, unless there is a clear top-notch QB.
Either way, I will be excited with who they pick though.

Problem is outside of Jack there really arent any game changing talents at those positions, and you wont see a LBer go that high unless they are a surefire, better then Luke Kuechley talent. Jack isnt. Outside of Jack you would be very very lucky to get Byron Jones level production from any defender we take in the top 5 this year as a rookie. If we wanted to upgrade the defense with a top 5 pick, we pickec a bad year to do it

Outisde of Jack, I would honestly take Ronnie Stanley at 4 then any defender in this draft

 

[fishspill]

I can see the FO trading back into the 1st to quiet the QB at 4 crowd down. Probably get that kid from Arkansas or whoever comes up as 4th QB. The rumors days before the draft will swirl (whoever that QB is) that he is actually thought of by many GMs as being one of the top 2 QBs. Those rumors will be started by the Cowboys.

 

[Hailmary]

As people have mentioned, there's a pretty big gap between the top three and all the other QBs. It's still very early though, and I can see a couple of these kids sneaking into the mid to late 1st round. Cook is one and Hackenburg being the other. I realize there isn't a whole lot of buzz around Hack at the moment, but he's going to test well and some GM is going to fall in love with his measurables.

In this scenario, I trade down from 4 and pick up an additional 2nd and a 3rd. I want nothing to do with Cook and although I don't hate the idea of picking Hack, I do hate taking him in the first so I wouldn't even bother trading back into the 1st. Spend the latter 3rd on Driskel and cross your fingers that the only time you see him in the next 2 years is during the preseason.