Norm Hitzges 2014 plan sucks

Galian Beast

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His plan...

Don't restructure Romo

Cut DeMarcus Ware
Cut Miles Austin in June
Essentially cut Kyle Orton (he said to trade him for a 7th, not sure that Orton wouldn't have a no trade policy)
Cut Costa
Cut Durant

Restructure Witten and Lee

By not restructuring Romo not only are you saying you don't believe in Romo, but you're also saying that you're give up on the rest of his career, because according to overthecap, this would give us about 500k dollars in cap space, and I'm not sure that includes the rookie pool, and any free agents you would have to sign to replace certain players, for instance you would have to get a backup QB...

If this team wants to do anything next year and more importantly in the next couple years, you have no choice but to restructure Romo. Restructuring Romo saves 10 million dollars against the cap. That is going to be necessary, especially pre June 1st in order to get some money for free agents.

Like I've been saying with Ware, I think we really only have two options with him, especially if he won't take a massive pay cut. That is release him from the get go, or release him in June. Releasing him from the offset frees up 7 million this year, and 17 million next year. Releasing him in June on the other hand frees up 12 million this year (though only after June 1st) and 12 million next year. I think the cap this year is much tighter for us than it would be next year, so this would really depend on what you want to do in free agency. If you want to be players in March, you'd have to release Ware early and take the full hit this year.

Releasing Ware in February and restructuring Romo in February would open up about 17 million dollars, but still leave us over the cap. Cutting Miles Austin has to wait until June, and cutting him earlier than that doesn't help us this year.

By restructuring Lee and Witten in addition, you can get us 3 million under the cap, which still doesn't really make us a player in free agency, but that doesn't even include putting the 2nd round tender on Dan Bailey, or putting a tender on Jones.

The biggest decision going forward will be whether or not they restructure Brandon Carr or not, because that is really the move that will be necessary to giving us room to get some people in here. I'm not really in favor of restructuring him, but I think if you can give him a pro bowl defensive line, you'll probably see him play more closely to his salary.

Cutting Austin in June, then reopens things up for us to get a lot of budget help later on.

So the idea that we can go forward without continuing our commitment to Romo, that just isn't realistic. We've made that commitment like it or not. And drafting a QB early also flies against that commitment.
 

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We need a backup QB. Draft one........

You can draft someone in the 4th round at most, but then you still have to decide whether or not you're going to pay Orton. And honestly, I think even the 4th round is too high given the needs we have on offensive line and defensive line, and given that we already have Orton.

Note that cutting Orton gives us NO real salary cap savings this year.
 

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You can draft someone in the 4th round at most, but then you still have to decide whether or not you're going to pay Orton. And honestly, I think even the 4th round is too high given the needs we have on offensive line and defensive line, and given that we already have Orton.

Note that cutting Orton gives us NO real salary cap savings this year.

also its a stop gap for Romos successor someone we better try and get on the team. Why pay Orton for a possible game or two? And if not and you think or confident Romo wont make the season, a good time to get his replacement MUCH needed time. Its win win.

The rest of the team has two years before they even need to start playing. So why use teh whole draft when you have at least two possibly three to use. Qbs are harder to find, well ones that are good. I doubt we see another Romo for a long time, so sad as it makes me, have to go to the draft.
 

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You can draft someone in the 4th round at most, but then you still have to decide whether or not you're going to pay Orton. And honestly, I think even the 4th round is too high given the needs we have on offensive line and defensive line, and given that we already have Orton.

Note that cutting Orton gives us NO real salary cap savings this year.

I don't think cutting Orton saves us anything, either

We need to get him ready if Romo misses more time than expected.

Heck, if just to buy Romo more time to heal thru summer into the season.

Orton can at least run the offense.

What he did against Philly week 17 says to me play him.

We have no idea what we have in him.
 

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I don't think cutting Orton saves us anything, either

We need to get him ready if Romo misses more time than expected.

Heck, if just to buy Romo more time to heal thru summer into the season.

Orton can at least run the offense.

What he did against Philly week 17 says to me play him.

We have no idea what we have in him.

Should we waste the time finding out for years to come or start looking for a new qb to take over?
 

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I like Norm's plan lots! We have to get out of the business of borrowing money from Romo and Ware's contracts. They are aged and running out of time. It stinks to be paying for them long after they are home enjoying retirement. I am not crazy about borrowing some cap space from Witten's contract either but he is a better bet than Romo and Ware staying healthy. I love ridding of Orton's contract. We can get a cheaper backup who can fill in for Romo for a game or two. If we need a backup longer than that, the season will be crap anyway. I do think we should take a stab at what we did with Doug free and see who would stay around for less.
 

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the Cowboys should just admit they are rebuilding, take their lumps this year and start fresh next year. That's why the "process" is taking so long, they are rebuilding and and trying to make a push with their over priced players.

Releasing Ware constitutes rebuilding. Giving up on Romo constitutes placing this team in purgatory for the foreseeable future. You don't give up on franchise quarterbacks. You've seen this with Chicago's recent move. Finding a good quarterback let alone a franchise one is very difficult.

The best time to draft Romo's replacement is after we've addressed the needs on the offensive and defensive line. Namely 2015 or 2016.

By removing DeMarcus Ware, it gives you a large percentage of salary cap room necessary to remold the defense. Releasing Austin does the same on the offensive side of the ball. What a lot of people have to realize is that we have for the most part already rebuilt this team. Other than Scandrick who is the long time member of our secondary? Other than Free who is the long term member of our offensive line? Other than Austin who is the long term member of our wide receiver corps? Murray has really only been our starter for what two years now? He is the oldest running back we have. Linebacker corps? Sean Lee hasn't even been here long.

The last part that needs to be rebuilt is this defensive line, and we're at the door step.
 

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I like Norm's plan lots! We have to get out of the business of borrowing money from Romo and Ware's contracts. They are aged and running out of time. It stinks to be paying for them long after they are home enjoying retirement. I am not crazy about borrowing some cap space from Witten's contract either but he is a better bet than Romo and Ware staying healthy. I love ridding of Orton's contract. We can get a cheaper backup who can fill in for Romo for a game or two. If we need a backup longer than that, the season will be crap anyway. I do think we should take a stab at what we did with Doug free and see who would stay around for less.

Note that I said we should cut Ware, and note how I've explained that not restructuring Romo means not be able to afford to do ANYTHING this year. Mission one is to get under the cap, and mission two generally means replacing players that you cut in order to do so. If you can't recognize that I really can't help you.
 

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Note that I said we should cut Ware, and note how I've explained that not restructuring Romo means not be able to afford to do ANYTHING this year. Mission one is to get under the cap, and mission two generally means replacing players that you cut in order to do so. If you can't recognize that I really can't help you.

we are not even talking replacing some cut players with prime players, a few on the DL and we need to draft a safety also for the D. Restructuring Romo wont give us evertying we need in one year because we dont need one year, at best we are looking at two to three.
 

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I love ridding of Orton's contract. We can get a cheaper backup who can fill in for Romo for a game or two. If we need a backup longer than that, the season will be crap anyway. I do think we should take a stab at what we did with Doug free and see who would stay around for less.

You realize that cutting Orton's contract doesn't save us any money right?

He is in the last year of his contract, and his contract has mostly guaranteed money in it. I think you save 200k from cutting him, but you're still going to end up spending at least 500k to replace him, likely more.

So you cut him and now you've probably got a worse quarterback, and you're paying at minimum 300k more... Does that strike you as intelligent?
 

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we are not even talking replacing some cut players with prime players, a few on the DL and we need to draft a safety also for the D. Restructuring Romo wont give us evertying we need in one year because we dont need one year, at best we are looking at two to three.

I don't think you realize that we're well over the cap... and resturcturing romo isn't just about this year. It's about getting players now for this year, next year, and so on.

Please give me your plan to get us under the salary cap.
 

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I don't think you realize that we're well over the cap... and resturcturing romo isn't just about this year. It's about getting players now for this year, next year, and so on.

Please give me your plan to get us under the salary cap.


we SHOULD be doing the cuts we need to make. Restructuring Romo is like saying, "we know we have to cut players, but if we take from another, we can possible keep some bad players" No, i dont want that, i want the forced cuts, cut from the team. FA is not saving us this year, and its not like theres a cheap player we can say "well if we get him this year, we can keep him long term" Unless he comes real cheap.

This should be the year of "the hammer falls". We can draft some players and throw them in and we can sign cheap fa guys to fill the gaps. Other than that, nothing else we can really do BECAUSE we got ourselves into this mess, if everyone is right about the cap hell, which happens every year. Two, we are NOT making the playoffs next season, so we dont have to jump on that ship. You have nothing to look forward to as an organization. so this is the year to drop teh hammer and get everything in order to go forward and NOT end up in this mess.
 

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You realize that cutting Orton's contract doesn't save us any money right?

He is in the last year of his contract, and his contract has mostly guaranteed money in it. I think you save 200k from cutting him, but you're still going to end up spending at least 500k to replace him, likely more.

So you cut him and now you've probably got a worse quarterback, and you're paying at minimum 300k more... Does that strike you as intelligent?


Good thing we got rid of Tanney, darn talent, WE DONT WANT THAT HERE. We keep older stop gap guys. THat way we know that position can be held back, LIKE A BOSS.
 

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we SHOULD be doing the cuts we need to make. Restructuring Romo is like saying, "we know we have to cut players, but if we take from another, we can possible keep some bad players" No, i dont want that, i want the forced cuts, cut from the team. FA is not saving us this year, and its not like theres a cheap player we can say "well if we get him this year, we can keep him long term" Unless he comes real cheap.

This should be the year of "the hammer falls". We can draft some players and throw them in and we can sign cheap fa guys to fill the gaps. Other than that, nothing else we can really do BECAUSE we got ourselves into this mess, if everyone is right about the cap hell, which happens every year. Two, we are NOT making the playoffs next season, so we dont have to jump on that ship. You have nothing to look forward to as an organization. so this is the year to drop teh hammer and get everything in order to go forward and NOT end up in this mess.

Getting under the cap will require cutting players AND restructuring Romo if we want to do anything this year. It's basic math, and it isn't hard. Restructuring Romo doesn't make things difficult later either.

Also doesn't mean that cutting a player saves us money either. Ask Seattle how building their defensive line in free agency worked out for them.
 
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