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i copied a list of prospects from GBN. of those listed below, who would make a good nose tackle? Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee (XAr) *Frank Okam, 6-4, 320, Texas *Alan Branch, 6-5, 325, Michigan Brandon Mebane, 6-3, 306, California *Keilen Dykes, 6-3, 295, West Virginia Quinn Pitcock, 6-3, 295, Ohio State Marcus Thomas, 6-2, 290, Florida *Red Barnett, 6-4, 330, Texas A&M Jordan Hill, 6-1, 300, Arizona State Tank Tyler, 6-2, 305, North Carolina State Kareem Brown, 6-4, 310, Miami Kelly Talavou, 6-0, 320, Utah Jeremy Clark, 6-2, 305, Alabama Brent Curvey, 6-0, 305, Iowa State Keith Jackson, 6-0, 300, Arkansas (XK) Marquay Love, 6-0, 320, Houston Kelly Talvou, 6-2, 310, Utah Ken Scott, 6-2, 325, Texas Tech Howie Fuimaono, 6-0, 335, UNLV Jay Alford, 6-3, 290, Penn State
 

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Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee (XAr)
*Frank Okam, 6-4, 320, Texas
*Alan Branch, 6-5, 325, Michigan
Brandon Mebane, 6-3, 306, California
*Keilen Dykes, 6-3, 295, West Virginia
Quinn Pitcock, 6-3, 295, Ohio State
Marcus Thomas, 6-2, 290, Florida
*Red Barnett, 6-4, 330, Texas A&M
Jordan Hill, 6-1, 300, Arizona State
Tank Tyler, 6-2, 305, North Carolina State
Kareem Brown, 6-4, 310, Miami
Kelly Talavou, 6-0, 320, Utah
Jeremy Clark, 6-2, 305, Alabama
Brent Curvey, 6-0, 305, Iowa State
Keith Jackson, 6-0, 300, Arkansas (XK)
Marquay Love, 6-0, 320, Houston
Kelly Talvou, 6-2, 310, Utah
Ken Scott, 6-2, 325, Texas Tech
Howie Fuimaono, 6-0, 335, UNLV
Jay Alford, 6-3, 290, Penn State
 

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I'm usually not one to buy into Longhorn hype, but Frank Okam is the real deal when it comes to clogging the interior line. He's not a pass rusher, but he's a manchild when it comes to controlling the line of scrimmage. Ken Scott from Texas Tech is pretty good too ... not a lot of physical talent, but he's relentless, all day, high motor guy. Kind of a Chad Eaton type without the trash talking.
 

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Frank Okam, UT
Alan Branch, Michigan

Conrad Bolston, Maryland
Antonio Johnson, Mississippi St.

Those are the guys I like that can play the 3-4. Top two are day one picks and the bottom two are day two picks.
 

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As a State fan I have been very impressed with Tank Tyler. Can't imagine as an NC State fan why they lost so many games last year with Williams and Lawson on the end, and McCargo and Tyler up the middle. Also, Hoyte and Tullock at LB. Sorry about that state rant, but do like Tyler.
 

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alancdc;1136260 said:
As a State fan I have been very impressed with Tank Tyler. Can't imagine as an NC State fan why they lost so many games last year with Williams and Lawson on the end, and McCargo and Tyler up the middle. Also, Hoyte and Tullock at LB. Sorry about that state rant, but do like Tyler.

I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??
 

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I want a guy that will not only clog the middle but able to push the pile and force penetration up the middle on pass plays. Prevent the QB from being able to step up. Have to admit my guy would be about 6'0 and around 320-330; in other words a guy that virtually no center could handle by himself. And that would fully tie up the center and one guard on virtually every play.
 

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peplaw06;1136289 said:
I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??

Fergie is 6'-3", so I don't think 1 or 2 inches will make that much of a difference. Plus once the combine comes around, these guys may shrink that much.
 

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hard not to like the Mich and Texas kids, esp the Mich kid when he's playing on the best D in the country.
Of course, it might be easier to wait out Fergi and go sign a FA there. I really hated to see Pepper Johnson walk.
Wonder if Spears could play there....esp given the way Ratliff and Coleman have been playing on the end.
 

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Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee is a player who shows alot of ability!
 

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Alan Branch and Jay Alford. Both can take on double teams successfully, but Alford is the better pass rusher, which we desperately need.
 

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peplaw06;1136289 said:
I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??


I'm of the belief that Parcells doesn't care if the guy is 6' or 6'5", 305 or 350. What I sense is that he wants ALL OF HIS PLAYERS at a weight in which they perform their best. I believe that if Ferguson was able to play a full 16 game schedule, at full strength for 45 plays a game, @ 330pounds, Parcells would let him. The fact is that Bill believes that Fergy wears down to fast at that weight. If Shaun Rogers was on this team at his current listed weight (345) and playing at a Pro Bowl level, Parcells wouldn't mind.
 

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kartr;1136328 said:
Alan Branch and Jay Alford. Both can take on double teams successfully, but Alford is the better pass rusher, which we desperately need.

IDK... pass rushing just isn't that much of a concern with a 2 gap NT.
 

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We need all the pass rush we can get no matter where it comes from.
 

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peplaw06;1136289 said:
Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??

I say the bigger the better. If we can get a guy weighing about 330 I think thats great. Remember he will be rotating so I would not expect them to wear down too badly during the course of the season.
 

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InmanRoshi;1136237 said:
I'm usually not one to buy into Longhorn hype, but Frank Okam is the real deal when it comes to clogging the interior line. He's not a pass rusher, but he's a manchild when it comes to controlling the line of scrimmage. Ken Scott from Texas Tech is pretty good too ... not a lot of physical talent, but he's relentless, all day, high motor guy. Kind of a Chad Eaton type without the trash talking.

Since we're on Big 12 NTs... What about this Red Bryant from A&M? He's 6-5, 324, and was on the Sporting News All-American Freshman team with guys like Okam, Adrian Peterson, Sam Baker, and Ko Simpson. Also on the A&M Leadership Council. I haven't been able to find much on him, maybe partly because he's a junior.
 

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Well lets just say Red Bryant requires double teams... needs to improve his pass rushing technique but he is solid against the run. I like what I've seen from him. Not sure if he is coming out this year though.
 

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Alan Branch is more in the mold of a Spears and Seymour.

All the best NT are under 6'3 he is something like 6'6. He'd be a DE in a 3-4.
 

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burmafrd;1136348 said:
We need all the pass rush we can get no matter where it comes from.

I agree... but I think BP would take a guy who he knew could command double teams before he would take a guy who couldn't do that but was a better pass rusher.
 

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ghst187;1136308 said:
Wonder if Spears could play there....esp given the way Ratliff and Coleman have been playing on the end.

Do you think he's got the stones to play there?
 
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