NY Times- Baylor Has Built Texas Sized Athletic Program

[Cythim]

As crazy as this sounds, it can actually become a very complicated issue - far more complicated that just looking at the athlete's private parts.

A couple years ago, a South African female runner had her gender in question because she looked and sounded quite masculine. They gave her a "gender test" which takes weeks to complete. I'm not going to go into any details, but it is possible for one human being to have sex organs from both genders and, as such, it is also possible for a woman to produce the amount of testosterone you would normally only see from a man. Apparently she "passed" her test and was ruled a female.

Do a google search on "Caster Semenya" if you want to read some details.

I assume with Griner the only thing that will happen is a drug test, assuming she competes at a level with mandatory testing. Assuming she is innocent, I really feel bad for her having to deal with all this speculation and negativity concerning her gender. We need to let the system in place do it's job in outing dopers instead of going on a witch hunt because someone looks different.

 

[jimmy40]

there's been lots of really tall girls playing basketball and no one had a problem till Griner came along and is actually athletic. Hell, I think Stanford had 7 girls 6'3'' or taller. This questioning Griner crap is people jealous of her success and idiots being idiots.

 

[Rogah]

there's been lots of really tall girls playing basketball and no one had a problem till Griner came along and is actually athletic. Hell, I think Stanford had 7 girls 6'3'' or taller. This questioning Griner crap is people jealous of her success and idiots being idiots.

Look I don't give two turds about women's basketball, but Griner's resemblence to a man goes a bit beyond her height. I would not be surprised if she tested with the same genetic makeup as Semenya allegedly did which, as far as the rules are concerned, makes her a female, end of story.

 

[jimmy40]

Look I don't give two turds about women's basketball, but Griner's resemblence to a man goes a bit beyond her height. I would not be surprised if she tested with the same genetic makeup as Semenya allegedly did which, as far as the rules are concerned, makes her a female, end of story.

yeah, exactly the same.

 

[Rogah]

yeah, exactly the same.

I never said they were "exactly the same" did I? For some reason hearing this gets a bee in your bonnet, but unless someone is blind, deaf, and dumb, they would have to admit that Griner clearly has some masculine traits about her. And, as much as you hate to hear this, those masculine traits go far beyond simply her height.

I'm not saying she should be excluded from women's competition. I'm just agreeing with the statement that if she were given a gender test, we'd probably find some masculinity in there.

Why that upsets you so much, I have no idea.

 

[The30YardSlant]

As crazy as this sounds, it can actually become a very complicated issue - far more complicated that just looking at the athlete's private parts.

A couple years ago, a South African female runner had her gender in question because she looked and sounded quite masculine. They gave her a "gender test" which takes weeks to complete. I'm not going to go into any details, but it is possible for one human being to have sex organs from both genders and, as such, it is also possible for a woman to produce the amount of testosterone you would normally only see from a man. Apparently she "passed" her test and was ruled a female.

Do a google search on "Caster Semenya" if you want to read some details.

I don't think she's a hermaphrodite, more than likely she has high testosterone levels caused by a partial Y chromosome. It's somewhat common among people of African descent and while it doesnt render you genetically male like full-blown Klinefelter's (XXY) does, it does present women with very masculine symptoms.

 

[The30YardSlant]

there's been lots of really tall girls playing basketball and no one had a problem till Griner came along and is actually athletic. Hell, I think Stanford had 7 girls 6'3'' or taller. This questioning Griner crap is people jealous of her success and idiots being idiots.

Her height isnt the biggest issue. Most women do not have a noticeable Adam's apple as it is much smaller in women than men but Griner's is very obvious. She has a BMI far different from other female players and muscle tone that is nowhere near normal for female basketball players. Her forehead, checkbones and jaw are all incredibly masculine in appearence.

 

[Rogah]

I don't think she's a hermaphrodite, more than likely she has high testosterone levels caused by a partial Y chromosome. It's somewhat common among people of African descent and while it doesnt render you genetically male like full-blown Klinefelter's (XXY) does, it does present women with very masculine symptoms.

That sounds entirely plausible.

 

[Aikbach]

Across the board good season continues as Baylor Baseball rides the nation's longest winning streak and surges to #8 and #5 in the rankings, depending on the poll.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/041012aaa.html

 

[Ranched]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/s...ize-athletic-program.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Those girls were unbelievable, WOW. Forty straight wins etc....when are they going to the White House and Disney Land?!:

 

[Aikbach]

Now that the silly texting "scandal" is blown over, Baylor immediately has signed another highly coveted recruit to an already deep arsenal of talent on the men's team.
http://www.statesman.com/news/texas/baylor-adds-gathers-to-signing-class-2308676.html

 

[Aikbach]

Baylor Baseball leaps to #3 in collegiate poll.
http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divI/currentpolldivI.htm

 

[Aikbach]

Baylor Baseball destroys Texas A&M Corpus 15-2, wins 20th game in a row.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/041712aac.html

 

[The30YardSlant]

As I expected, Griner will not participate in the Olympics...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ily-school/2012/04/19/gIQA4lerTT_story.html

Pretty much confirms everyone's suspicions, especially given how early she made this announcement. "She" never even considered it.

 

[Aikbach]

As I expected, Griner will not participate in the Olympics...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ily-school/2012/04/19/gIQA4lerTT_story.html

Pretty much confirms everyone's suspicions, especially given how early she made this announcement. "She" never even considered it.

Yeah every butt hurt aggies suspicions, in other news your *** was just handed you in collie station by Baylor Baseball who now enjoy the longest winning streak in the nation, which is really what this thread is about, Baylor's all around rise as an athletic power, one you butt hurt *****s in collie town can't stand having to look up despite your condescension

 

[The30YardSlant]

Yeah every butt hurt aggies suspicions, in other news your *** was just handed you in collie station by Baylor Baseball who now enjoy the longest winning streak in the nation, which is really what this thread is about, Baylor's all around rise as an athletic power, one you butt hurt *****s in collie town can't stand having to look up despite your condescension

I don't pay much attention to college baseball, but congrats. That is an impressive winning streak.

Griner is still a dude, though.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Yeah every butt hurt aggies suspicions, in other news your *** was just handed you in collie station by Baylor Baseball who now enjoy the longest winning streak in the nation, which is really what this thread is about, Baylor's all around rise as an athletic power, one you butt hurt *****s in collie town can't stand having to look up despite your condescension

So tell me who started throwing flames this time? My word man, not sure what the Aggies did to you but get a grip. And it's clear the board doesn't give a damn about Baylor hence why you seem to be the only one submitting anything in this thread. If it wasn't for a few college fans you would be talking to yourself in this thread.

Congrats to Baylor they have clearly turned their athletic program around. Good for them. I'm pulling for them. I'm glad you are proud but stop attacking others.

 

[Aikbach]

So tell me who started throwing flames this time? My word man, not sure what the Aggies did to you but get a grip. And it's clear the board doesn't give a damn about Baylor hence why you seem to be the only one submitting anything in this thread. If it wasn't for a few college fans you would be talking to yourself in this thread.

Congrats to Baylor they have clearly turned their athletic program around. Good for them. I'm pulling for them. I'm glad you are proud but stop attacking others.

You really do lack reading comprehension if you're too blind to discern the idiocy of the rebuked poster peddling the same crap he always does, demeaning the humanity of a national champion player, spare me you pretentious feigning of objectivity, either you share his prejudices or don't read before you type.

 

[burmafrd]

wow going back to threads like this and others that have all the OU vs T or any kind of T vs T & AM garbage in it makes me wonder why I ever take anything ANY ONE of you posters say seriously.


As regards Griner. Frankly one has to wonder WHY she is not going out for the Olympic team. I have heard over the years hundreds of college and even pro basketball players male and female go on about how great being on the Olympic team is. So what is her reason?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

wow going back to threads like this and others that have all the OU vs T or any kind of T vs T & AM garbage in it makes me wonder why I ever take anything ANY ONE of you posters say seriously.


As regards Griner. Frankly one has to wonder WHY she is not going out for the Olympic team. I have heard over the years hundreds of college and even pro basketball players male and female go on about how great being on the Olympic team is. So what is her reason?

She is going to tryout for the Charlotte Bobcats.