O-Line in 2006...

[CactusCowboy]

We could go from poor to very good. We will have Flozell back. Marc Columbo, imo, will be ready to play. We will definetely draft a top OL and maybe pick one up in FA. Plus, Pettiti and Tucker have at the very least gained valuable expierence.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

I get hammered when I talk this way, but oh well....Draft top LT and move Flo to RT!

The only way I say stay put is IF Columbo PROVES to be legit...then we would have Columbo and Petitti on the right side and leave Flo on the left with Tucker or someone better backing him up.

I'm not sure Columbo will prove out, so I'm advocating a TOP LT from the draft.........

 

[aikemirv]

I would bet that Pettiti starts at RT next year.

Now, I would not bet a lot, but I think he will be there from day 1 in TC.

 

[Hoov]

Draft or sign a center !!!!
Draft a guard to develop or challenge for playing time.
See what Peterman has to offer.

Leave Flo at LT.
Have Colombo and Pettiti fight out for RT
Let tucker chalenge Rivera and Allen for starting guard spot.

 

[CactusCowboy]

2006 PROSPECTS



Tackle


D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
Eric Winston, Miami
Jonathan Scott, Texas
Marcus McNeill, Auburn
Joe Thomas, Wisconsin, Jr.
Winston Justice, USC, Jr.
Daryn Colledge, Boise St.
Andrew Whitworth, LSU
Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College
Adam Stenavich, Michigan
Guard


Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
Davin Joseph, Oklahoma
Justin Blalock, Texas
Taitusi Lutui, USC
Mark Setterstrom, Minnesota
Ryan O'Callaghan, Cal
Charles Spencer, Pitt
Kyle Ralph, North Carolina
Matt Lentz, Michigan
Jami Hightower, Texas AM
Center


Greg Eslinger, Minnesota
Mike Degory, Florida
Patrick Ross, Boston College
Marvin Philip, Cal
Ryan Cook, New Mexico

 

[ddh33]

I keep saying it, but I'm not sure there will be as many changes on the line as folks think. I think Petitti gets every chance to keep that RT spot. I think Flozell comes back. Rivera will be getting a lot of money, so he's probably here. Larry has arguably been the best lineman this year. Al Johnson is a very hard worker and is young. He's a Parcells guy.

 

[kingwhicker]

Seems like every year we are trying to upgrade our dog of a line.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

I take anyone of these guys in a heartbeat....

D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
Eric Winston, Miami
Jonathan Scott, Texas
Marcus McNeill, Auburn
Joe Thomas, Wisconsin, Jr.

Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia

 

[Yeagermeister]

Just draft a replacement!!!!!!!!!!! Why haven't we thought of this before?

 

[Portland Fanatic]

I would bet that Pettiti starts at RT next year.

Now, I would not bet a lot, but I think he will be there from day 1 in TC.

He absolutely deserves the chance....I think he will be much improved with an off-season too. However, I'd love for him to compete against a fully recoved Columbo before declaring him starter. If Columbo can not go, then draft that starting LT nad move Flo over to compete......JMHO!

 

[Hoov]

I keep saying it, but I'm not sure there will be as many changes on the line as folks think. I think Petitti gets every chance to keep that RT spot. I think Flozell comes back. Rivera will be getting a lot of money, so he's probably here. Larry has arguably been the best lineman this year. Al Johnson is a very hard worker and is young. He's a Parcells guy.

Those guys will be there come training camp, but you can beleive parcells will have plenty of candidates to push them, he will not be "limited" or hamstrung by not having other players to turn to next year. If you dont perform, you get the hook. This year there is no one to throw in there, but parcells wont go through this headache again.

Having said that, i think we have a situation where there are young tackles and a young center that have been rushed into some things, while the guards are older and no longer in their prime. I think the same guys could spend an offseason together and grow as a unit into a good line, but you need to have depth and competition for those positions to challenge and make changes where necessary.

 

[AbeBeta]

Said it before, I'll say it again.

Anyone counting on Columbo to do anything next year needs his/her head examined.

A good outcome for Columbo would be making the team. I sure hope BP isn't counting on him like some of the folks on this board are.

 

[CactusCowboy]

Said it before, I'll say it again.

Anyone counting on Columbo to do anything next year needs his/her head examined.

A good outcome for Columbo would be making the team. I sure hope BP isn't counting on him like some of the folks on this board are.

What is your reasoning behind this?

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Said it before, I'll say it again.

Anyone counting on Columbo to do anything next year needs his/her head examined.

A good outcome for Columbo would be making the team. I sure hope BP isn't counting on him like some of the folks on this board are.

That's why I'm advocating a top OT in this years draft. Deep an OT class in years....

My comments on Columbo are IF and only IF he can prove to 100%, which I think is a VERY slim chance.

This is what I'd love to see next year....
LT = Scott or Winston with Tucker as back up..
RT = Flo with Pettiti as back up...who knows maybe Columbo in the mix.

If The rookie has issues or trouble at LT, then Flo goes to LT and Pettiti is at RT...

 

[Sabu1]

The main thing is getting this unit all on the same page. We have three mauler type linemen in Adams, Allen and Pettiti. And then we have two finesse, athletic types in Johnson and Rivera. We need to pick a direction whether it's the mauler types or the finesse/athletic types and stick to it and build an offense around it. I think this is the biggest problem with the line right now and the source of inconsistency from one play to the next. These linemen just don't complement each others strengths and styles.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

FLo is fine at LT. Tucker is a really good backup.

Allen and Rivera arent gettig younger. Besides Peterman, let's add some depth to the guard position.

Can we combine Gurodes physical talents with Johnson's mental aspect? We need a for real center.

 

[jksmith269]

I get hammered when I talk this way, but oh well....Draft top LT and move Flo to RT!

The only way I say stay put is IF Columbo PROVES to be legit...then we would have Columbo and Petitti on the right side and leave Flo on the left with Tucker or someone better backing him up.

I'm not sure Columbo will prove out, so I'm advocating a TOP LT from the draft.........

You can NOT move FLO to RT because his hearing problem, That's what bp said in TC and I doubt his hearing has improved thru the year.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

You can NOT move FLO to RT because his hearing problem, That's what bp said in TC and I doubt his hearing has improved thru the year.

BUT his hearing problem is in his right ear....that's what is so funny!

EDIT: Draft notes on Flo...

2. Flozell Adams, OT, Michigan State
2nd Round (38 overall)
6-7, 334, 5.5

Bio: High-school weight man, wrestler and football player. Enrolled at Michigan State in 1993 and redshirted. Improved his stamina, conditioning and toughness in '95 under head coach Nick Saban and started 11 games at right tackle. Started every game at right tackle in '96 and was a second-team All-Big Ten pick. Moved to the OLT spot in '97 and struggled with both the position change and a high-ankle sprain that was so severe he wore an ankle cast to practice every day. Also hurt his shoulder vs. Northwestern. Nevertheless, Adams was an Associated Press All-American, a Walter Camp selection, a unanimous All-Big Ten choice and the coaches' Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year.

Positives: Tremendous size, huge wingspan (Adams' arms are almost 37 inches long) and big, strong hands. Shows good technique with footwork and using his hands making it difficult to go around him. Is very athletic for a man his size. Is so fluid and flexible that he does things almost effortlessly at times. Strong and powerful. Shut out Illinois' Simeon Rice in a '95 game. Has done a great deal of growing up and maturing since he came to college. Has lost a tremendous amount of weight and was in the best shape of his life at the Senior Bowl.

Negatives: Reportedly has a 40 percent loss of hearing in his right ear and has a hard time hearing snap counts and audibles when lined up at left tackle in a noisy road stadium. Had a down senior year in which he was beaten a lot, but, in fairness to Adams, he was playing hurt and gutting it out. Is not a very instinctive or aware player. Inconsistent even when he is healthy. Has lapses. Did not play well vs. Big Ten sack leader Lemanzer Williams of Minnesota.

Summary: Could be either a Pro Bowl right tackle who plays at a very high level for many years or a top-round disappointment, depending upon how hard he works and how well he is coached. Physically, Adams is just what NFL teams want in a right tackle, but he was never consistent in college despite playing for a great, NFL-type coach in Nick Saban and a very good coaching staff.