Objectivity, anyone?

Verdict said:
This place is rapidly becoming a cesspool of negativity and anger. I have seen it bad before but right now it seems to be at an all time high in terms of knee jerk reactions.

Let's start off with Dak. He is a young QB. He isn't playing well, but his line is playing pretty putridly right now. When we forced Romo into retirement it was a mistake. We traded Romo for the shiny more toy and the luster is now worn off the toy. It was a serious mistake but that card has been played so you move on.

Dak had a couple of INTs today and neither were his fault. The turnovers (3) cost us this game as much as anything else. Say whatever you want, it's true.

The receivers are doing fine. That won't be a popular opinion, but it's true. The problem is the OL isn't giving Dak enough time and Dak isn't seeing the field well, so it's a double whammy there.

The defense still played well, but where were all the sacks today? LVE seems to be really coming on. I'll give the defense a pass today but they were not as solid as before.

Seattle was a VERY desperate team and I knew it would be a tough out, especially in Seattle. Seattle is loud and it's a very tough place to play. Having said that we should have won today.

Coaching: Man you guys just ride the hell out of these coaches. Let's be real here--how are the coaches supposed to prevent the INTs and the fumble today.

Randy Gregory. Stupid people generally do stupid things. He is an absolute tool bag. I would try to trade him for something if the opportunity arises and move on from him.

It's a long season. We need to get to 2 and 2 next week and see what happens.

Side note, the Giants looked like a better team today. That win was bigger than it even looked last week. Think the fact that the Giants were 0 and 2 had anything to do with that tenacity?

I'm as frustrated as anyone here. We aren't playing well, at all, but we are not that far off. We need to consider helping out this OL in some way. It's the engine of this offense and right now, its sputtering.
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Good post...

People also need to keep in mind that Seattle is now 15-1in their last 16 home games. This was going to be a tough game, regardless.
 
Verdict said:
You saying it over and over doesn't change anything, really. Most were too low after week one and week three and too high last week. It's pretty predictable.
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I tell it like it is this team plays bad football. Beating a garbage team like the Giants gives you hope that's on you. Even when we win I see the totality of the team and the sum of all its parts. It's not good. That's how fandom is though. I have maintained my stance that this is a poorly run organization that is marketed to the gills by a hucksters and that it trickles down to the on field product on Sundays. Nothing we have seen this season or any other season since 1995 says otherwise.

We are the Exemplifcation of the saying "sound and fury signifying nothing ". So much talk and the same poorly executed play week in and week out.

You can't tell me with a straight face this is a Super Bowl caliber team. A playoff contender.

Teams fall flat have bad weeks. They bounce back and don't repeat the same mistakes. This team is the opposite.

There's something wrong with this team and it's not something that should not be glossed over.
 
rpntex said:
Good post...

People also need to keep in mind that Seattle is now 15-1in their last 16 home games. This was going to be a tough game, regardless.
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Youre a bad parrot because that stat isn't close to true. Please stop parroting stuff without double checking what you're speaking about to save yourself from looking bad.
 
Johnny23 said:
I tell it like it is this team plays bad football. Beating a garbage team like the Giants gives you hope that's on you. Even when we win I see the totality of the team and the sum of all its parts. It's not good. That's how fandom is though. I have maintained my stance that this is a poorly run organization that is marketed to the gills by a hucksters and that it trickles down to the on field product on Sundays. Nothing we have seen this season or any other season since 1995 says otherwise.

We are the Exemplifcation of the saying "sound and fury signifying nothing ". So much talk and the same poorly executed play week in and week out.

You can't tell me with a straight face this is a Super Bowl caliber team. A playoff contender.

Teams fall flat have bad weeks. They bounce back and don't repeat the same mistakes. This team is the opposite.

There's something wrong with this team and it's not something that should not be glossed over.
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You may state it how you see it but that does not mean it is fact. It is merely an opinion and all of us have our own take on it.

We aren't playing well right now. That's true. What's more debatable is "why" and whether it can be fixed or not this season fast enough to get into the playoffs.

Right now that's hard to determine because of all of the variables involved. So many want to put this all on Dak because quite frankly they either want to, or are total football simpletons.

Dak isn't playing well, but the OL is likely a substantial element of that. It's highly probable.

It's a long season and a lot can change. The Giants have backed into two Super Bowls. We still have plenty of time to get in the playoffs and make some noise. If we don't then changes will undoubtably be made, just like last year.
 
The proof is in the pudding. A defense that doesn't get turnovers. An offensive offense that struggles to get points.

A glaring hole in the middle of the defense up the gut.

Knucklehead headed players.
 
Dak had plenty of time the last few drives and still stunk. He's terrible out there. Why are some enabling him?

This season was a cluster before it even started. I said that *objectively* all off-season and been proven 100% correct.

It's only gonna get worse our schedule hadn't even hit the hard parts yet.
 
Verdict said:
Man you guys really take this Dez stuff personally. That makes me even happier he is gone.
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I don't take him getting cut personal.
I have stated several times he should have worked harder on perfecting his craft and he probably would not have gotten cut.
The problem I have is with people pushing a personal agenda with lies. There are plenty of things to criticize Dez about without telling lies, but you just can't seem to stop yourself from doing it.
Guess we can just chalk it up to being habitual for you.
 
trying to watch this team is awful there is no excitement they have one good player and the rest pretty much suck they cant score points because they cant pass the ball the defense never gets a turnover because the offense cant score points so the other team is not forced to take any risk
 
Verdict said:
I'm as frustrated as anyone here. We aren't playing well, at all, but we are not that far off. We need to consider helping out this OL in some way. It's the engine of this offense and right now, its sputtering.
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and just how does one help an OL?
 
In the world that is Jerrah Jones, not a damn thing right, wrong or indifferent matters. He is stuck on proving that it was HE, the mighty jerrah Jones who built the 90's teams and won 3 SB's.... we won't see anyone held to account, not the lame, half wit coaches, not the gutless, heartless players, not a single one of them. I'd be taking the season a helluva a lot better, if I saw read or heard of anyone on this clown car calling it self the Dallas Cowboy's was being called on the carpet and a heavy hand laid across them. But that is not the way, we got clappy Mcclappy, who butt slaps and tosses fairy dust on the field regardless of the slack assed play or stupidity shown on the field on play.... I am SO sick of Garret I can barely stand myself anymore. We can hope and dream all we want, nothing is going to change unless this whole circus tent burns to the ground. I would rather this team go 1-15 then win another game at this point. With that, maybe we get a new look on the coaching side, a high draft pick for what I am hearing is the real deal coming out of college this year. But I swear, even saying 1-15 and it does happen to come about that way, I STILL believe Jerrah will hang onto clapper and drop the axe on everyone else. It's just about as obvious as the nose on the end of your face with JJ.
 
rpntex said:
Good post...

People also need to keep in mind that Seattle is now 15-1in their last 16 home games. This was going to be a tough game, regardless.
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Seattle lost 4 home games last year (Wash, ATL, LA, AZ).

They are 11-5 in the last 16, but were 4-5 in the 9 previous to Sunday.
 
SloMo_Joe said:
I don't take him getting cut personal.
I have stated several times he should have worked harder on perfecting his craft and he probably would not have gotten cut.
The problem I have is with people pushing a personal agenda with lies. There are plenty of things to criticize Dez about without telling lies, but you just can't seem to stop yourself from doing it.
Guess we can just chalk it up to being habitual for you.
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What lies are you referring to? Lol. Can't face the truth? I think you have a hard time accepting that you were wrong about Dez.
 
Verdict said:
What lies are you referring to? Lol. Can't face the truth? I think you have a hard time accepting that you were wrong about Dez.
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How about the claim by you that all the offers he received is just propaganda by Dez or his fans? Everyone knows he turned down the Ravens offer (dumb move if you ask me) but is still makes your statement a lie.
If you want more than one example then just go back to when Dez was cut and review the things you were claiming he said, but could never provide a quote for.
I have no problem with the truth, but you wouldn't know what it was if it smacked you in the face.
Care to point out where I was wrong about Dez, or it that just more crap that spilled out of your mouth that has no basis in reality?
 
SloMo_Joe said:
How about the claim by you that all the offers he received is just propaganda by Dez or his fans? Everyone knows he turned down the Ravens offer (dumb move if you ask me) but is still makes your statement a lie.
If you want more than one example then just go back to when Dez was cut and review the things you were claiming he said, but could never provide a quote for.
I have no problem with the truth, but you wouldn't know what it was if it smacked you in the face.
Care to point out where I was wrong about Dez, or it that just more crap that spilled out of your mouth that has no basis in reality?
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No, everyone doesn't "know" that. He didn't sign an offer that was significant enough he should have taken it if it was a valid offer. The Ravens could have done him a favor to increase his value.

It's propaganda. And Dez still doesn't have a job. Who's gullible here? It's you who believes that drivel.
 
Verdict said:
No, everyone doesn't "know" that. He didn't sign an offer that was significant enough he should have taken it if it was a valid offer. The Ravens could have done him a favor to increase his value.

It's propaganda. And Dez still doesn't have a job. Who's gullible here? It's you who believes that drivel.
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Everyone with a little common sense knows it. Those that let their hatred cloud their judgement ignore facts, and therefore renders themselves ignorant.
So now NBCSports is a Dez propaganda outlet?
https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...n-multi-year-deal-ravens-banking-himself-2018
ESPN is too?
http://scores.espn.com/nfl/story/_/...says-does-not-regret-turning-baltimore-ravens
NFL too?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ryant-turned-down-multiyear-offer-from-ravens
CBSSports too?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...et-passing-on-the-ravens-huge-contract-offer/

I could go on, but even you can get the picture by now.
I notice you didn't show me where I was wrong about Dez, which just proves it was more crap spilling out of your mouth that has no basis in reality.
Gee, Capt. Obvious everyone knows Dez does not have a job in the NFL.... Oh, wait!!!
No, everyone doesn't "know" that..... Must be propaganda then, right?
Wow, I didn't realize how truly stupid that line of thinking really was until I typed it myself.
 
SloMo_Joe said:
Everyone with a little common sense knows it. Those that let their hatred cloud their judgement ignore facts, and therefore renders themselves ignorant.
So now NBCSports is a Dez propaganda outlet?
https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...n-multi-year-deal-ravens-banking-himself-2018
ESPN is too?
http://scores.espn.com/nfl/story/_/...says-does-not-regret-turning-baltimore-ravens
NFL too?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ryant-turned-down-multiyear-offer-from-ravens
CBSSports too?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...et-passing-on-the-ravens-huge-contract-offer/

I could go on, but even you can get the picture by now.
I notice you didn't show me where I was wrong about Dez, which just proves it was more crap spilling out of your mouth that has no basis in reality.
Gee, Capt. Obvious everyone knows Dez does not have a job in the NFL.... Oh, wait!!!
No, everyone doesn't "know" that..... Must be propaganda then, right?
Wow, I didn't realize how truly stupid that line of thinking really was until I typed it myself.
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Dez still doesn't have a job. I was right about Dez. You were wrong. It's ok. It happens.

He can't even make a roster. It's painfully obvious how done he is.
 
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