Off Season Mock

[tm1119]

Keep: Carr (1 year), McClain, Church, Moore, McFadden, Cooper
Let Go: Mo, Wilcox, Leary, Sanchez, T Will, Dunbar, Escobar, Gachkar, Durant, Butler, J Crawford

Free Agent Signings- Devin Taylor DE, Jon Bostic LB/ST, Rashad Johnson S, Marquise Goodwin WR, Blaine Gabbert QB

Draft
1st- Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova
2nd- Chris Godwin WR Penn State
3rd- Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado
4th- Adam Shaheen TE Ashland
6th- Jonah Pirsig RT Minnesota
7th- Leon Allen RB Western Kentucky

Rough 53 Man Roster outlook going into camp...pretty sure I'm missing a guy or 2 but you get the picture

QB- Dak, Moore, Gabbert
RB- Zeke, McFadden, K Smith, Allen
WR- Dez, Godwin, The Bease, Goodwin, Lucky
TE- Witten, Swaim, Shaheen, Rico
OT- Smith, Free (stuck with him for 1 more year), Green, Cleary, Pirsig
OG- Martin, Collins, Cooper
OC- Fred, Looney

DE- Lawrence, Kpassagnon, Taylor, Irving, Ty Crawford, Mayowa
DT- McClain, Collins, Thornton
OLB- Lee, Wilson, Hitchens, Wilber
ILB- Smith, Bostic, Nzeocha
CB- Scandrick, Brown, Carr, Awuzie, McFadden
S- Jones, Church, Heath, Johnson, Frazier

 

[KingintheNorth]

Keep: Carr (1 year), McClain, Church...

I'm out.

 

[Sydla]

Devin Taylor does nothing for me from the pass rush perspective. Sheard, Addison make much more sense.

And I just can't bring Church back. We need to upgrade his spot. IMO.

 

[RandyOh]

I'm out.

What on your thoughts on Wilcox? I would bring him back over Church but on a 1 year prove it deal to show that his much improved play wasn't a fluke.

 

[tm1119]

Church coming back people, I'll all but guarantee that. A, he's really not that bad. Check the D's #'s with and without him. B, he's a team captain and leader. They aren't dumping him for a slight upgrade. And no, we aren't signing Berry.

And I'd like to mock Sheard to us but he might be the best pass rusher in this horrible FA class and he's going to get way overpaid. I see Taylor as an inexpensive shot at his upside.He did have 7.5 sacks as a backup in '15

 

[RandyOh]

Hmm if we are going to add a player who had somewhat of a down year compared to his season before then i would sign Jabaal Sheard.

 

[RandyOh]

Church coming back people, I'll all but guarantee that. A, he's really not that bad. Check the D's #'s with and without him. B, he's a team captain and leader. They aren't dumping him for a slight upgrade. And no, we aren't signing Berry.

And I'd like to mock Sheard to us but he might be the best pass rusher in this horrible FA class and he's going to get way overpaid. I see Taylor as an inexpensive shot at his upside.He did have 7.5 sacks as a backup in '15

The obvious 2 that won't be let go are Chandler Jones and JPP. But I think both Nick Perry and Melvin Ingram hit free agency. Then you have the 2 out of nowhere guys in Erik Walden and Mario Addison who had great seasons. Sheard had a season like Devin Taylor in which they both had a down year after a great year the season before. I have actually read that Sheard market value may be lower then it was when hit free agency 2 years ago.

 

[tm1119]

The obvious 2 that won't be let go are Chandler Jones and JPP. But I think both Nick Perry and Melvin Ingram hit free agency. Then you have the 2 out of nowhere guys in Erik Walden and Mario Addison who had great seasons. Sheard had a season like Devin Taylor in which they both had a down year after a great year the season before. I have actually read that Sheard market value may be lower then it was when hit free agency 2 years ago.

Perry and Ingram are going to get snatched up just because they are youngish 3-4 pass rushing OLB's...

Idk, maybe I'm overestimating the market for Sheard. That and I'm going by the logic that whenever a player seems obvious and everybody here is screaming for said player it rarely ever happens...just like Sheard 2 years ago. I'd be all for signing him though, I'm just also prepared to be disappointed in free agency like everyone has for the past 3 years. Can't complain about the results though and I think the front office will continue on their spree of not spending and signing under the radar guys instead. Taylor also fits the long, and big DE's Rod seems to favor.

 

[Alexander]

Devin Taylor does nothing for me from the pass rush perspective. Sheard, Addison make much more sense.

Especially with that draft. Kpassagnon is interesting but way too raw to pick there, especially with no other draft help.

 

[RandyOh]

Perry and Ingram are going to get snatched up just because they are youngish 3-4 pass rushing OLB's...

Idk, maybe I'm overestimating the market for Sheard. That and I'm going by the logic that whenever a player seems obvious and everybody here is screaming for said player it rarely ever happens...just like Sheard 2 years ago. I'd be all for signing him though, I'm just also prepared to be disappointed in free agency like everyone has for the past 3 years. Can't complain about the results though and I think the front office will continue on their spree of not spending and signing under the radar guys instead. Taylor also fits the long, and big DE's Rod seems to favor.

I know what you mean. I see Sheard as the very best that we would be willing to try for. I don't have my hopes up for getting him either but he certainly in range to get. I like Devin Taylor. He had his breakout year last year. showed he can be a pass rush threat.

What on your thoughts on Julius Peppers? I know he old as dirt in football years but he had an 8 sack season as a pass rush specialist. I have no idea if he would even be willing to leave Green Bay if he does come back 1 more season but having a vet who can help the develop the youngins while be highly productive himself would be great. I mean Its what Freeney did for the Falcons. Vic Beasley benefited big time having Freeney as his mentor.

 

[tm1119]

I know what you mean. I see Sheard as the very best that we would be willing to try for. I don't have my hopes up for getting him either but he certainly in range to get. I like Devin Taylor. He had his breakout year last year. showed he can be a pass rush threat.

What on your thoughts on Julius Peppers? I know he old as dirt in football years but he had an 8 sack season as a pass rush specialist. I have no idea if he would even be willing to leave Green Bay if he does come back 1 more season but having a vet who can help the develop the youngins while be highly productive himself would be great. I mean Its what Freeney did for the Falcons. Vic Beasley benefited big time having Freeney as his mentor.

I'm all for anyone that can rush the passer honestly and Peppers can still do that on a limited basis...do I have any hope we'd go after Peppers? Nope. It was mind boggling to me last off season when we refused to even look at Freeney despite an obvious need at DE and him being available so late. Instead we brought back Jack Crawford for peanuts.

You're right tho...Sheard or maybe Addison is probably the best we can hope for as a free agent DE signing, but will likely end up digging even further into FA. Which is a little scary given that Lawrence is a complete wild card to contribute anything next year because of his back issue. Hopefully they realize we need more than Benny, a rookie (hopefully), and a hobbled D Law to get to the QB next year.

 

[RandyOh]

I'm all for anyone that can rush the passer honestly and Peppers can still do that on a limited basis...do I have any hope we'd go after Peppers? Nope. It was mind boggling to me last off season when we refused to even look at Freeney despite an obvious need at DE and him being available so late. Instead we brought back Jack Crawford for peanuts.

You're right tho...Sheard or maybe Addison is probably the best we can hope for as a free agent DE signing, but will likely end up digging even further into FA. Which is a little scary given that Lawrence is a complete wild card to contribute anything next year because of his back issue. Hopefully they realize we need more than Benny, a rookie (hopefully), and a hobbled D Law to get to the QB next year.

Speaking of having that old savy vet who can still get after the QB at a pretty good level. I would love to have one of my favorite Cowboys ever to come back in D Ware. Have him as a 3rd down WDE or even stand him up and have him blitz.

I also want Marinelli to decide where he wants Irving to play. If hes gonna play LDE then i want him to commit to it full time so he can develop coming off the edge through training camp & pre season. Its obvious that they want pass rush to improve by developing our in house players. I'm hoping Collins takes the next step and becomes our top pass rush threat. I'm hoping for a 7 or 8 sack season next year. For all we know Mayowa improves as well and gives us 7 or 8 sacks himself.

Tapper is the big wildcard though. We may never get to see what he can due to his back but he can also show that with the dropped weight with his already explosive athleticism that he can be what we are looking for. Also have to wait and see if someone falls in our lap in the 1st or 2nd round.

 

[tm1119]

Speaking of having that old savy vet who can still get after the QB at a pretty good level. I would love to have one of my favorite Cowboys ever to come back in D Ware. Have him as a 3rd down WDE or even stand him up and have him blitz.

I also want Marinelli to decide where he wants Irving to play. If hes gonna play LDE then i want him to commit to it full time so he can develop coming off the edge through training camp & pre season. Its obvious that they want pass rush to improve by developing our in house players. I'm hoping Collins takes the next step and becomes our top pass rush threat. I'm hoping for a 7 or 8 sack season next year. For all we know Mayowa improves as well and gives us 7 or 8 sacks himself.

Tapper is the big wildcard though. We may never get to see what he can due to his back but he can also show that with the dropped weight with his already explosive athleticism that he can be what we are looking for. Also have to wait and see if someone falls in our lap in the 1st or 2nd round.

Yeah I really don't think the D line is even in that bad of shape to be honest with you. Irving should absolutely be the starting LDE next year and Ty Crawford should be working on losing weight and gaining agility as we speak to form a really solid duo at LDE/Pass rushing DT with Irving. No reason they both can't play 40 + snaps a game and hopefully we can see 0 from Jack Crawford next year. Collins looks promising at 3 tech and should only be better given that he was playing as a rookie with very little practice time because of the injury. I suspect McClain won't have much interest and will be back to form a solid duo with Thornton at 1 tech again. It's just that ever elusive speed rushing RDE we've been missing since D Ware left....and if you throw Benny and Tapper into the mix + D Law it actually makes me hesitant about signing a FA at all now that I'm breaking it down. Not sure throwing another body into the mix is going to solve the problem. That's 8 guys right there before the draft, we can only carry so many d lineman. . Unless our coaching staff/scouting department really sees potential in 1 of these guys I'm not sure it's worth it to be honest. D Law, Benny, Tapper, + a 1st or 2nd round pick...throw it all at the wall and see what sticks as the best RDE combo I say.

LDE- Irving-Ty Crawford-Tapper
1 Tech- McClain-Thornton
3 Tech- Collins-Irving-Ty Crawford
RDE- Lawrence-Mayowa-Rookie-Tapper

Does spending $ on Jabaal Sheard or Mario Addison honestly really make that any better? Having my doubts...Now if the medical staff knows something we don't and Lawrence and Tapper can't be counted on next year it makes things a lot different obviously. It really comes down to what kind of confidence they have that those 2 can be healthy come August. That and doing as much due diligence as possible and finding the right DE that will be available at 28 (or later).

 

[RandyOh]

Yeah I really don't think the D line is even in that bad of shape to be honest with you. Irving should absolutely be the starting LDE next year and Ty Crawford should be working on losing weight and gaining agility as we speak to form a really solid duo at LDE/Pass rushing DT with Irving. No reason they both can't play 40 + snaps a game and hopefully we can see 0 from Jack Crawford next year. Collins looks promising at 3 tech and should only be better given that he was playing as a rookie with very little practice time because of the injury. I suspect McClain won't have much interest and will be back to form a solid duo with Thornton at 1 tech again. It's just that ever elusive speed rushing RDE we've been missing since D Ware left....and if you throw Benny and Tapper into the mix + D Law it actually makes me hesitant about signing a FA at all now that I'm breaking it down. Not sure throwing another body into the mix is going to solve the problem. That's 8 guys right there before the draft, we can only carry so many d lineman. . Unless our coaching staff/scouting department really sees potential in 1 of these guys I'm not sure it's worth it to be honest. D Law, Benny, Tapper, + a 1st or 2nd round pick...throw it all at the wall and see what sticks as the best RDE combo I say.

LDE- Irving-Ty Crawford-Tapper
1 Tech- McClain-Thornton
3 Tech- Collins-Irving-Ty Crawford
RDE- Lawrence-Mayowa-Rookie-Tapper

Does spending $ on Jabaal Sheard or Mario Addison honestly really make that any better? Having my doubts...Now if the medical staff knows something we don't and Lawrence and Tapper can't be counted on next year it makes things a lot different obviously. It really comes down to what kind of confidence they have that those 2 can be healthy come August. That and doing as much due diligence as possible and finding the right DE that will be available at 28 (or later).

I think if we add a Sheard, a Addison, or a Devin Taylor then that means we really won't be pushing for a edge rusher in the draft and just takes who falls to us most likely seems like a WR, TE, or CB in the 1st. Probably the same positions will be best talent on the board in the 2nd. Could probably add safety to that group. We have the core on offense to compete for the next 6 to possibly 10 years. Reading some of the post on here makes it seem like many are still stuck in win now mode from when Romo was still our starting QB.

 

[blindzebra]

Alex Okafor is likely to hit the market and might be worth a look.

 

[Sydla]

Church coming back people, I'll all but guarantee that. A, he's really not that bad. Check the D's #'s with and without him. B, he's a team captain and leader. They aren't dumping him for a slight upgrade. And no, we aren't signing Berry.

And I'd like to mock Sheard to us but he might be the best pass rusher in this horrible FA class and he's going to get way overpaid. I see Taylor as an inexpensive shot at his upside.He did have 7.5 sacks as a backup in '15

I'd rather have Addison. He's two years older but has had 6, 6.5 and 9.5 sacks as a back up in Carolina. Far more productive than Taylor.

 

[Sydla]

Yeah I really don't think the D line is even in that bad of shape to be honest with you. Irving should absolutely be the starting LDE next year and Ty Crawford should be working on losing weight and gaining agility as we speak to form a really solid duo at LDE/Pass rushing DT with Irving. No reason they both can't play 40 + snaps a game and hopefully we can see 0 from Jack Crawford next year. Collins looks promising at 3 tech and should only be better given that he was playing as a rookie with very little practice time because of the injury. I suspect McClain won't have much interest and will be back to form a solid duo with Thornton at 1 tech again. It's just that ever elusive speed rushing RDE we've been missing since D Ware left....and if you throw Benny and Tapper into the mix + D Law it actually makes me hesitant about signing a FA at all now that I'm breaking it down. Not sure throwing another body into the mix is going to solve the problem. That's 8 guys right there before the draft, we can only carry so many d lineman. . Unless our coaching staff/scouting department really sees potential in 1 of these guys I'm not sure it's worth it to be honest. D Law, Benny, Tapper, + a 1st or 2nd round pick...throw it all at the wall and see what sticks as the best RDE combo I say.

LDE- Irving-Ty Crawford-Tapper
1 Tech- McClain-Thornton
3 Tech- Collins-Irving-Ty Crawford
RDE- Lawrence-Mayowa-Rookie-Tapper

Does spending $ on Jabaal Sheard or Mario Addison honestly really make that any better? Having my doubts...Now if the medical staff knows something we don't and Lawrence and Tapper can't be counted on next year it makes things a lot different obviously. It really comes down to what kind of confidence they have that those 2 can be healthy come August. That and doing as much due diligence as possible and finding the right DE that will be available at 28 (or later).

Absolutely it makes them better. Addison had 9 sacks as a backup in Carolina last year and that would have dwarfed anyone on our team.

We did this last year and I feel like some will end up doing it again.............. overrating just how good our DL is.

 

[jamesdojr]

Keep: Carr (1 year), McClain, Church, Moore, McFadden, Cooper
Let Go: Mo, Wilcox, Leary, Sanchez, T Will, Dunbar, Escobar, Gachkar, Durant, Butler, J Crawford

Free Agent Signings- Devin Taylor DE, Jon Bostic LB/ST, Rashad Johnson S, Marquise Goodwin WR, Blaine Gabbert QB

Draft
1st- Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova
2nd- Chris Godwin WR Penn State
3rd- Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado
4th- Adam Shaheen TE Ashland
6th- Jonah Pirsig RT Minnesota
7th- Leon Allen RB Western Kentucky

Rough 53 Man Roster outlook going into camp...pretty sure I'm missing a guy or 2 but you get the picture

QB- Dak, Moore, Gabbert
RB- Zeke, McFadden, K Smith, Allen
WR- Dez, Godwin, The Bease, Goodwin, Lucky
TE- Witten, Swaim, Shaheen, Rico
OT- Smith, Free (stuck with him for 1 more year), Green, Cleary, Pirsig
OG- Martin, Collins, Cooper
OC- Fred, Looney

DE- Lawrence, Kpassagnon, Taylor, Irving, Ty Crawford, Mayowa
DT- McClain, Collins, Thornton
OLB- Lee, Wilson, Hitchens, Wilber
ILB- Smith, Bostic, Nzeocha
CB- Scandrick, Brown, Carr, Awuzie, McFadden
S- Jones, Church, Heath, Johnson, Frazier

I honestly dont know much about any of those free agents, except Gabbert. I think we will get one big Free Agent. Dline or DB in my opinion. Personally I can't take our safeties anymore. Eric Berry would be my one target this offseason. That's just me. Dallas probably won't, just to spite me.

I also don't know anything about your draft picks other than Awuzie, who I really like. I have some research.

I think you are closer to what Dallas will do than what I would do. But if this happened, I'm not sure I would be overly confident that Dallas took the steps needed to win playoff games. Again, I think Dallas needs to get a playmaker at Wide Out and a playmaker on defense. Ideally 2 on defense (secondary and pass rush)