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This is what I would like to happen but it is NOT what I think will happen.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.


Free Agents signed:
DE Nick Perry
CB Trumaine Johnson
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garson or similar lowish cost veteran WR

Re-signed:
Leary
Moore
McFadden
Cooper
Wilcox or Church
Moore - Almost all backup QBs suck so might as well go cheap.

They lose T.McClain
They keep T.Crawford until training camp and then decide if he is too expensive.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.

They trade Romo for Clowney. Both are injury risk players and Clowney will be a free agent soon so it's not as if the Texans are giving up extreme value for Romo. If the 5th year option is pickup up, then they have Clowney for 2 years without a huge long term commitment.
 

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In the list "Other" means it could be a draft pick but doesn't have to be.

QB Dak
QB Moore
RB Zeke
RB McFadden
RB Other

FB Keith Smith or other
TE Witten
TE Swaim
TE Rico or Hanna
WR Beasley
WR Dez
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garcon or other lowish cost veteran
WR Draft Pick (maybe early pick)

OL Tyron
OL Leary
OL Fred
OL Martin
OL Collins - Moves to RT
OL Cooper

OL Green
OL Looney
OL Other
RDE Clowney - They get two years without a big cap committment.
LDE Nick Perry

DE Lawrence - Injury?
DE Mayowa
DE Draft Pick (maybe early pick)
DE Tapper
DT Collins
DT Irving
DT Thorton
DT T.Crawford or replace with draft pick
DT Other
LB Lee
LB Jaylon Smith
LB Wilson
LB Hitchens
LB Nzeocha
LB Other
CB Trumaine Johnson

CB Scandrick
CB Brown
CB Draft Pick (maybe early pick)
CB Other

Safety Jones
Safety Wilcox or Church
Safety Heath
Safety Frazier
Safety Draft Pick (maybe early pick)
K Bailey
P Jones
LS LP
 

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Sign 2 free agent WR's? Why sign Garçon to be the 4th WR?

Also don't think we can afford to resign Leary. Martin is going to get huge $ on top of Smith and Fred already. Can't invest that much of the cap in 1 spot.

And no way on the Clowney trade. I know you said it's not what you expect to happen, but no way the Texans would trade Clowney now.
 

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Sign 2 free agent WR's? Why sign Garçon to be the 4th WR?

Also don't think we can afford to resign Leary. Martin is going to get huge $ on top of Smith and Fred already. Can't invest that much of the cap in 1 spot.

And no way on the Clowney trade. I know you said it's not what you expect to happen, but no way the Texans would trade Clowney now.
Dez will likely miss time with injury or some other reason.

I just want a reliable veteran WR in the mix even it that player is just a "possession" type receiver at this point. I don't want to put all of the eggs in one basket with Pryor in his 1st year here.

Pryor needs a savvy veteran in the meeting room with him. Maybe Beasley is that guy, but for the right price on a 1 year deal, Garcon is a good steady veteran possession receiver.

Obviously, cost is a big factor in all the decisions. The estimates on Pryor's value varies very widely. I don't even want to speculate on an exact number. Obviously, if the Cowboys sign him it will be some reasonable.

Clowney has 1 year remaining on his rookie contract. They can add a 2nd year by exercising the 5th year option, but that's almost the same cost as the Franchise Tag for a top 10 draft pick (It's a better deal on players picked 11-32). He has a significant injury history and he has not performed as expected up to this point. If you were trading a draft pick for Clowney, he wouldn't fetch anything close to a 1st round pick considering everything I just listed.
 

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I was listening to a a sports radio show the other day and someone suggested that the Cowboys/Texans should trade Romo for Watt. Both are coming off back injuries. I think it would be an unfair trade for the Texans but I would definitely do that in a heartbeat. Then again this isn't Madden.
 

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Free Agents signed:
DE Nick Perry
CB Trumaine Johnson
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garson or similar lowish cost veteran WR

I would love that but for the money Garcon gets I think I would spend it on another CB.
 

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This is what I would like to happen but it is NOT what I think will happen.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.


Free Agents signed:
DE Nick Perry
CB Trumaine Johnson
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garson or similar lowish cost veteran WR

Re-signed:
Leary
Moore
McFadden
Cooper
Wilcox or Church
Moore - Almost all backup QBs suck so might as well go cheap.

They lose T.McClain
They keep T.Crawford until training camp and then decide if he is too expensive.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.

They trade Romo for Clowney. Both are injury risk players and Clowney will be a free agent soon so it's not as if the Texans are giving up extreme value for Romo. If the 5th year option is pickup up, then they have Clowney for 2 years without a huge long term commitment.
You're not asking for much
 

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two surprises [1] what do you think the cap cost would be to your plan
[2] My understanding is Leary is gone.
 

Manwiththeplan

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No way we spend that much in free agency.

Terrell Pryor will likely command $8 plus million per, and to be honest Garçon will as well, just on a shorter deal. Leary could approach that range as well, likely getting at least $7 million. Nick Perry may just be a one year wonder, but it's possible he can be had for a reasonable amount, guess we'll see. Texans won't deal Clowney after the year he had, and Trumaine Johnson will likely cost $12 million plus.

I know we *could* create the space, but the future cap issues wouldn't be worth it
 

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This is what I would like to happen but it is NOT what I think will happen.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.


Free Agents signed:
DE Nick Perry
CB Trumaine Johnson
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garson or similar lowish cost veteran WR

Re-signed:
Leary
Moore
McFadden
Cooper
Wilcox or Church
Moore - Almost all backup QBs suck so might as well go cheap.

They lose T.McClain
They keep T.Crawford until training camp and then decide if he is too expensive.

They draft BPA but lean towards DE, CB, WR, Safety. OT would be in in the list if Collins does not move to RT.

They trade Romo for Clowney. Both are injury risk players and Clowney will be a free agent soon so it's not as if the Texans are giving up extreme value for Romo. If the 5th year option is pickup up, then they have Clowney for 2 years without a huge long term commitment.
Not bad X, although I don't agree with every move (and I know you said this isn't what you think the team will do).

I really like Garcon. He's a tough, emotional guy who shows no fear across the middle. He is a free agent that I think might actually be worth what he commands on the typically bloated free agent pay scale. He's not great, but a nice WR2 IMO.

I also like Trumaine Johnson although I think he will be over priced... which hurts the chances that our front office will actually consider him.

Not a Pryor or Nick Perry fan. I don't think either will be close to worth what they get dollar wise, although I could miss big time on Pryor... if he hits he will hit big-time. I still wouldn't bring him in though.

I don't see how they keep Leary but I do really like him and wish he could stay. It'd just be so much $$ on the OL. I think the team might agree with you but I still think he's gone.

I certainly don't think they'll keep both Leary and Cooper. I'd rather sign one of Leary/Cooper and sign T. McClain, who can be a solid starting 1T or a very good backup 1T in a rotation.

Moore as backup QB, I'm fine with. I actually like him a good bit as a backup.

As for the draft, I'm a big BPA guy but like you, I think they need to look to CB, DL, Safety, or WR if at all possible. Still if a guy is BPA by a mile then I say go ahead and take him (within reason).
 

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This is what I would like to happen but it is NOT what I think will happen.

Free Agents signed:
DE Nick Perry
CB Trumaine Johnson
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Garson or similar lowish cost veteran WR

If we could sign this list especially Perry and Johnson, I am thrilled in free agency, nice job!

I would let Leary walk simply because he will get overpaid in free agency and is "excited" for it!

I would resign TM if he is not priced out of range and look for that RT in the draft to compete with what we have at the position.

Agree on the draft BPA and with the addition of RT.
 

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If we could sign this list especially Perry and Johnson, I am thrilled in free agency, nice job!

I would let Leary walk simply because he will get overpaid in free agency and is "excited" for it!

I would resign TM if he is not priced out of range and look for that RT in the draft to compete with what we have at the position.

Agree on the draft BPA and with the addition of RT.

Yes, in reality, I would be excited if they acquired 1 elite player.
 

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Not bad X, although I don't agree with every move (and I know you said this isn't what you think the team will do).

I really like Garcon. He's a tough, emotional guy who shows no fear across the middle. He is a free agent that I think might actually be worth what he commands on the typically bloated free agent pay scale. He's not great, but a nice WR2 IMO.

I also like Trumaine Johnson although I think he will be over priced... which hurts the chances that our front office will actually consider him.

Not a Pryor or Nick Perry fan. I don't think either will be close to worth what they get dollar wise, although I could miss big time on Pryor... if he hits he will hit big-time. I still wouldn't bring him in though.

I don't see how they keep Leary but I do really like him and wish he could stay. It'd just be so much $$ on the OL. I think the team might agree with you but I still think he's gone.

I certainly don't think they'll keep both Leary and Cooper. I'd rather sign one of Leary/Cooper and sign T. McClain, who can be a solid starting 1T or a very good backup 1T in a rotation.

Moore as backup QB, I'm fine with. I actually like him a good bit as a backup.

As for the draft, I'm a big BPA guy but like you, I think they need to look to CB, DL, Safety, or WR if at all possible. Still if a guy is BPA by a mile then I say go ahead and take him (within reason).

In my mind I see Garcon as a 1-year, 5M type player but I'm probably underestimating it.

Pryor probably never hits FA and stays with the Browns but his upside in very high. He ran a 4.3 forty at 6-5, 240. I think there are enough questions about him to keep his contract down. He has not proven anything and has really only played WR for 1 year.

Perry is a solid player with ideal DE size and had 11 sacks. He's not flashy so his cost might be below top of the market. If the Cowboys can pay Tyrone Crawford 9M per, I would go 11M for Perry.

Keeping Leary is just wishful thinking. I think he will be a bargain to whatever team signs him. I don't think he'll get some mega deal because teams still have the images of his knee that kept them all from drafting him.

Collins to RT is also likely wishful thinking.. He just looks like a RT to me and I've studied his college game footage at LT.

I wish we could count on Green at RT because he showed very good ability in 2 starts at LT this past season.

Yes, keeping Leary and Cooper is being greedy, but I'm always greedy in regards to the OLine.

Most backup QB suck so they might as well be cheap. I think Moore would be better than Sanchez.

In the draft I favor BPA but, I would have a hard time pulling the trigger in the 1st round on:
TE
OG
QB
RB

In the draft I know Witten is at the end but I would have a hard time drafting a TE in the 1st unless he is both a super blocker and receiver and NOT injured.
 

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Resign clai and draft a CB, clai was playing like a true number 1 before he got hurt.

Spend money on short term good vets that bring the right attitude and can help develop draft picks. Guys I have in mind.

Calais Campbell
Chris Long
Anquan Boldin
 

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Love your thoughtful posts and dedication to team building but your FA spend and evaluation is way out of line with reality every year.

Pryor had a 1000 yard receiving season man. He's going to get very highly paid.
Garcon also had a 1000 yard season and will command at least 20m total in contract(yea there may be a fake 3rd year in there).

I think if you took the most conservative estimate you could and put together that plan, it'd be close to reality and likely very well done.
 

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Pryor was a street FA we missed on. On September 10, 2015, he was waived from the Browns. On December 2, 2015, he was re-signed
 
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