Offense : 2 TE & 2 RB



This will improve the OL play while giving Dak enough time vs Blitz or force LB/S to cover instead of blitz willy nilly.

 
They ran the 13 package all last year and the fans damn near burned down the place. When we are missing two OTs, we better go back to the jumbo package.
 
Dak_Attack_09 said:
The ultimate scheme that allows you to go pass or run with same personnel.




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Garrett thinking.

TEs are better blockers, but they let the defense keep LBs on the field instead of DBs, and their lack of deep threat lets the defense hug the LOS. It's unclear that you gain in the run game, and lose much in the passing game.

I'd rather see us go 20 personnel with Olawale at FB and Austin or Pollard in the slot.

The one pass we tried to Olawale worked just as schemed, but for Dak getting rushed on the pass. Olawale easily beat the LB on him. No contest. Pollard and Austin will flat out run by LBs. More speed than most DBs too.

Dak, Zeke, Olawale, Austin/Pollard give us 4 legitimate run threats, and three runners that can beat LBs deep, not even counting the true wideouts. The runners/deep threats are better complements to Zeke on 1st and 2nd than the TEs.
 
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22 personnel puts too much bodies in the box and puts way too little pressure on the DBs.

Basically, you surrender all passing threat deeper than 10 yards (the lone WR is easily bracketed/doubled by even a single-high safety if he goes downfield) in exchange for more run-game blockers and short-throw passing threats. But that congestion of bodies inside and underneath makes it tough for receivers to find separation, and it puts a ton of trash in your RB's way even if most of your blockers are winning their assignments (the more guys you have blocking, the more likely someone's going to lose). So it makes your offense one-dimensional, and it partially hurts you in that one dimension.

It can work for obvious power situations, like clock-killing mode when the defense crams the line with defenders and you need to get a hat on everybody, but it would be dreadful as a base offense.

I personally like Sean McVay's way of running things. All 11 personnel, all the time, make every playcall look the same, utilize a blocking TE both to hold the edge if you run and to set picks if you pass. Done correctly, you can run a full playbook without ever tipping your hand to the defense.
 
buybuydandavis said:
Garrett thinking.

TEs are better blockers, but they let the defense keep LBs on the field instead of DBs, and their lack of deep threat lets the defense hug the LOS. It's unclear that you gain in the run game, and lose much in the passing game.



I'd rather see us go 20 personnel with Olawale at FB and Austin or Pollard in the slot.

The one pass we tried to Olawale worked just as schemed, but for Dak getting rushed on the pass. Olawale easily beat the LB on him. No contest. Pollard and Austin will flat out run by LBs. More speed than most DBs too.

Dak, Zeke, Olawale, Austin/Pollard give us 4 legitimate run threats, and three runners that can beat LBs deep, not even counting the true wideouts. The runners/deep threats are better complements to Zeke on 1st and 2nd than the TEs.
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Lol what when Jarwin goes up the seam that will take LB/ S blitzer with him and Witten either stays for pass protection or go replaces a blitzer for a easy completion and still allowing Zeke to run at will.
 
RamziD said:
Or 21 personnel with Zeke and Pollard and flex one of them out often.
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Pollard/Austin/Cobb turn 11 into 11/21 to varying degrees. Add in Dak, and you get 3 legitimate run threats.

That's *if* you actually make use of them as run threats.

Multiple run threats is the way for us to maximize our run game and the use of our oline to run block.
 
beware_d-ware said:
I personally like Sean McVay's way of running things. All 11 personnel, all the time, make every playcall look the same, utilize a blocking TE both to hold the edge if you run and to set picks if you pass. Done correctly, you can run a full playbook without ever tipping your hand to the defense.
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The blocking TE puts another LB in the box and doesn't give you a deep threat or a run threat. I guess if he's a good enough blocker, that might be ok. I don't think Witten or Jarwin qualify.

I like 20 personnel better with Olawale, maybe we sacrifice a little blocking threst, but we add a run threat and a deep threat. That's more pressure on the defense than Witten. Third down bring in possession guys. 1st and 2nd should be run threats and deep threats. That's a better complement to the run game.

I'd like to see us try an extra olineman on the field too. We've got quality depth on the oline. We should use it to grind down the defensive personnel. Should try out all that depth for some basic TE routes too. See who can catch a ball, and make our jumbo packages with olinemen who can catch a 5 yard pass, instead of TEs who can't really block.
 
Problem with 2 TE sets is we only have 1 TE in Witten. Jarwins catch rate is 15% below wittens and hes miles behind in blocking. Instead go 2 receiver and 1TE, 2 RB esp with pollard and olewale simultaneously. Olewale was a receiver so hes comfortable splitting out wide, blocking from the H back, or any kind of jet sweep motion. Zeke isnt a bad catcher either and a good blocker.
 
charron said:
Problem with 2 TE sets is we only have 1 TE in Witten. Jarwins catch rate is 15% below wittens and hes miles behind in blocking. Instead go 2 receiver and 1TE, 2 RB esp with pollard and olewale simultaneously. Olewale was a receiver so hes comfortable splitting out wide, blocking from the H back, or any kind of jet sweep motion. Zeke isnt a bad catcher either and a good blocker.
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I feel like you copied & pasted a statement from Eatman..., if you go watch tape vs Jacksonville last year Jarwin is the reason Dak scores TD with his awesome run blocking skills which gets washed out by fake media lol!

Just watch this video and if you stick to facts you know Jarwin just needs more opportunities. Time marker 1:35

 
Dak_Attack_09 said:
I feel like you copied & pasted a statement from Eatman..., if you go watch tape vs Jacksonville last year Jarwin is the reason Dak scores TD with his awesome run blocking skills which gets washed out by fake media lol!

Just watch this video and if you stick to facts you know Jarwin just needs more opportunities. Time marker 1:35

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Thats Treat he made 1 block good for him he gets a cookie. I didnt say he never makes one hes just not great. Hes been run over a few times this year. And while i like him running routes he isnt catching enough of the passes he gets even though some of that is on dak it still holds true. Better to have jarwin an witt share snaps especially since we have no depth behind these guys. So yea less 2 TE, more receiver and RB where we have more talent.
 
Dak_Attack_09 said:
I feel like you copied & pasted a statement from Eatman..., if you go watch tape vs Jacksonville last year Jarwin is the reason Dak scores TD with his awesome run blocking skills which gets washed out by fake media lol!

Just watch this video and if you stick to facts you know Jarwin just needs more opportunities. Time marker 1:35

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I don't know if you're even serious now.

That was a good block by Jarwin but his blocking is rarely good.

I do think he should get more receiving opportunities.
 
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