Offense sells tickets

[Rockport]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

 

[superonyx]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

Don't tell Tom Brady and his 4 superbowl rings this.

 

[perrykemp]

Don't tell Tom Brady and his 4 superbowl rings this.

3 of those rings the Patriots had a pretty good defense.

 

[Eddie]

Not to hijack the thread ... but did you guys notice the Super Bowl babies commercial? The last group of Cowboys Super Bowl babies are 20 years old !!!

 

[Eddie]

3 of those rings the Patriots had a pretty good defense.

... and a great kicker.

 

[superonyx]

3 of those rings the Patriots had a pretty good defense.

Pretty good isn't winning superbowls.....unless its combined with a Great QB.

 

[perrykemp]

Truth be told, now that we are 50 Superbowls in I think it's safe to say there are all sorts of viable ways to win a Championship.

Plenty of examples of great defenses winning with poor offenses.
Plenty of examples (although less of them I think) of great offenses with poor defenses
Everything in between

 

[Rockport]

Don't tell Tom Brady and his 4 superbowl rings this.

Silence is golden when you haven't a clue.

 

[Eddie]

Truth be told, now that we are 50 Superbowls in I think it's safe to say there are all sorts of viable ways to win a Championship.

Plenty of examples of great defenses winning with poor offenses.
Plenty of examples (although less of the I think) of great offenses with poor defenses
Everything in between

...but in almost ALL cases, the QB is an exceptional talent.

 

[superonyx]

Silence is golden when you haven't a clue.

Its easy to give advice....not as easy to take your own advice. Try it.

 

[perrykemp]

...but in almost ALL cases, the QB is an exceptional talent.

Going back over the past 15-16 years, I'm not sure the 2000 Ravens (Dilfer), 2002 Bucs (Brad Johnson), 2015 Broncos (old Manning) fit into that category.

 

[superonyx]

Truth be told, now that we are 50 Superbowls in I think it's safe to say there are all sorts of viable ways to win a Championship.

Plenty of examples of great defenses winning with poor offenses.
Plenty of examples (although less of the I think) of great offenses with poor defenses
Everything in between

Don't tell the OP....he has already cracked the code.
Some people can only remember things they just saw...

 

[Doomsay]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

Don't let anybody ever criticize you for not thinking things out. This is good work.

 

[Nightman]

If the number one Defense makes it to the Super Bowl they 7-1 since 1985 with last year's SEA being a yard away. The Cowboys of 1992 were one of the 7.

 

[JD_KaPow]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

Yes. It's proven every year, except the years when it isn't.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You have to have a good QB and good passing game to win the Super Bowl. You also have to be good at defending the pass. There's plenty of ways to do it. The Saints defense wasn't exactly lights out when they won it. But, when you can build giant leads and score at will, it makes the defense's job easier.

What we need is a more consistent defense. We seem to have a defense that tends to play very well on the road...of all things...and then struggle at home. Then we will have some years where they are good at home, but poor on the road. Or a defense that starts out well, but struggles in the second half of the season or plays well in the first 3 quarters and wilts in the 4th quarter. Just no real consistency.

The defense needs to become great at the basics. It needs to tackle much better. It needs a better last line of defense (safeties) and it needs to be able to play both man and zone well. Once we get these basics down, then we can look to add the bells and whistles and add those key parts to make the defense run high octane. Otherwise we will still have the same inconsistencies and find ways to lose instead of finding ways to win.





YR

 

[BAT]

...but in almost ALL cases, the QB is an exceptional talent.

Unless your team has a dominant defense.

Cam Newton was the nfl MVP but Denver made him look like Brandon Weeden. And Peyton Manning is a first ballot HOFer, but he is nowhere near an "exceptional talent" anymore, especially against a D as good as Carolina's.

Wade's Broncos D is on par with Buddy's Bears, Kiffin's Bucs, 2000 Ravens, Steel Curtain, Doomsday and Jimmy's Cowboys. Half these teams won it all without a stud QB or even much of an offense. But ALL had elite defenses.

 

[mldardy]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

offense wins championships too. As a matter of fact TEAMS win championships.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

I'm so tired of the defense wins championships narrative.

Also, we can bury the "no team can win after paying a number one receiver" discussion. Thomas is paid as a number one wideout.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

...but DEFENSE wins championships. Proved yet again.

For this year, yes. Last year it was Brady.