OG Review

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NFLDS Ranking, Player, College, Ht, Wt

12 Zack Martin Notre Dame 6-4 308
His technique and awareness is as good as it gets for a college player. He is strong with good quickness. IMO, his best fit in the NFL is at OG. He has a well below average wingspan for an NFL OT. Even if he can be a decent OT, I think a team will always want to move him to OG because he will be better there. Arms on the shorter side (32-7/8").

31 *David Yankey Stanford 6-6 315
Plays with good power. Reminds me of Travis Frederick in that he had poor times and bench numbers, but plays with good quickness and power. Good arm length at 34". Is a taller Guard and will occasionally let his pad level get too high, but generally plays with good technique. He should be a day 1 starter. Arm length (34").

36 *Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA 6-4 307
Very quick. Not a mauler, but so quick off the snap he generates good pop. Decent arm length (33-3/8"). Should be ready from day 1.

49 Gabe Jackson Mississippi State 6-3 336
Big, but not as powerful as expected. Does not have great explosiveness into blocks. Quickness is ok. Arm length is good (33-3/4"). Technique is ok but could use improvement.

71 Cyril Richardson Baylor 6-5 329
Really big but does not explode into blocks. Can be dominant on occasion but terrible on others. Long arms (34-5/8") and decent athleticism. Technique is not consistent. Lacks aggressiveness.

79 Billy Turner North Dakota State 6-5 315
Explodes into blocks. Aggressive and plays through the whistle. Moves around effortlessly. Small School LT. Not much technique, but he didn't need it to dominate at that level of competition. Can probably play OT, but would be an ideal OG in a zone scheme. Good arm length (34"). Will need some time to develop technique, but high upside.

86 Dakota Dozier Furman 6-4 313 Very strong hands and upper body. Quicker than measured times. Good balance. Aggressive. College LT. Good arm length for OG (33-7/8"). Better hand usage than most college players.

97 *Marcus Martin Southern California 6-3 320
Very quick off he snap. Quick to the 2nd level. Aggressive. Played well against the much bigger Louis Nix. Shouldn't have any problem playing either OG or OC. Arm Length (34").

120 Anthony SteenInjured Alabama 6-3 314
Overachiever. Got the most out of his limited physical ability. Not overly quick or strong. Very short arms (30-1/2").

137 Brandon Thomas Clemson 6-3 317
Good balance. Strong with good quickness. Hand usage could improve. College LT should move to OG. Very good arm length (34-3/4").

151 Chris Watt Notre Dame 6-3 310
Gets the job done with effort and awareness. Sloppy build and not a great athlete. At best average strength and quickness. Arms on the shorter side (32-3/4). Wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a starter, but it won't be pretty.

159 Jon Halapio Florida 6-3 323
Decent strength and quickness but not great. Hand usage and upper body strength need work. On the ground too much. Arm length is decent (33-5/8), but he appears to struggle with tall, long armed players. Has upside with improved technique.

177 Brandon Linder Miami (Fla.) 6-6 311
I don't see much here. He might have weight room strength, but no explosive on field power. Lacks quickness or balance. Long arms (34-1/2").

201 *Russell Bodine North Carolina 6-3 310
Played Center. Strong. Arm length is on the shorter side (32-1/2"). Quickness is not great but good enough.

225 Kadeem Edwards Tennessee State 6-4 313
Powerful, aggressive run blocker. Pass Pro is OK, not great. Just lines up an hits people without much technique. Good upside with Pro Coaching. Really long arms (35-1/2").

234 John Urschel Penn State 6-3 313
Not a wow player, but consistent and gets the job done. Doesn't not appear to get beat often. Has a 4.0 GPA with a Masters in Mathematics. Arm length (33").

240 Spencer Long (Injured) Nebraska 6-5 320
All out balls to the wall effort. Plays almost the point of being out of control. Pulls often with very good speed. Good power. Technique is OK but not as refined as you might expect with a Wisconsin OL. Has the build of an OT.

248 Ryan Groy Wisconsin 6-5 316
274 Andrew Norwell Ohio State 6-6 316
292 Brian Clarke Bloomsburg 6-2 305
319 Zach Fulton Tennessee 6-5 316
338 Austin Wentworth Fresno State 6-4 315

340 *Trai Turner LSU 6-3 310
Solid big school OG. Way underrated by NFLDS. Plays with good balance, power, quickness and awareness. Technique is OK but can improve. Good arm length (34"). The NFLDS ranking must have been based on 2012 when he was a redshirt freshman. He is mid round pick, IMO. Has upside coming out as a redshirt Sophomore.
 

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Wow, great job xwalker. Seems to be at least 4 guys who are walk-in starters for us at OG. Plenty more who would carry the "starter in waiting" tag. All about finding value in those rounds, but I'm very interested in this crop.
 

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During the time I was working on this, NFLDS updated their rankings.

They seem to agree with me on several players with downgrades for Cyril Richardson, Steen, Watt and Linder and upgrades for M. Martin, B. Thomas and a huge upgrade for Trai Turner.

Original Ranking, New Ranking, Difference
12 12 0 Zack Martin
31 36 -5 *David Yankey
36 23 13 *Xavier Su'a-Filo
49 49 0 Gabe Jackson
71 119 -48 Cyril Richardson
79 79 0 Billy Turner
86 86 0 Dakota Dozier
97 54 43 *Marcus Martin
120 135 -15 Anthony SteenInjured
137 69 68 Brandon Thomas
151 176 -25 Chris Watt
159 151 8 Jon Halapio
177 292 -115 Brandon Linder
201 201 0 *Russell Bodine
225 225 0 Kadeem Edwards
234 234 0 John Urschel
240 240 0 Spencer LongInjured
248 248 0 Ryan Groy
274 274 0 Andrew Norwell
292 319 -27 Brian Clarke
319 338 -19 Zach Fulton
338 340 -2 Austin Wentworth
340 158 182 *Trai Turner
 

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Would really like Thomas in the 3rd, if not I would have no problem waiting on Turner or Long later. Long tore his acl in October so it's not unlikely that he will be ready to go from week 1. And Turner just came out too early for his own good. He's got all the tools though, really think we'd be talking about him as a 3rd/4th round pick in '15 if he stayed in school 1 more year.
 

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I'm especially open to drafting guys with position flex. That's why Martin is so intriguing. Also seems like others like Billy Turner and Brandon Thomas could bump outside in a pinch. I heard Thomas did pretty well at LT v. Clowney.
 

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I'm a big fan of Billy Turner and Brandon Thomas. Also I really like Trai Turner and Edwards as late round developmental guys
 

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I like Dozier, M. Martin, Bodine, Edwards and Turner...I think we'll end up getting Swartz or Asamoah in FA, with Berny & Costa being cut.
 

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You would think he wouldn't be on our board.

I mean, if Larry Warford wasn't, it stands to reason Jackson won't be either.

Warford, from what I can understand, either was red-flagged off our board entirely or just significantly lowered on our board because of a knee injury. It wasn't because of scheme.
 

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Warford, from what I can understand, either was red-flagged off our board entirely or just significantly lowered on our board because of a knee injury. It wasn't because of scheme.

Knee injury? Apparently we only consider the real iron men of football like Sean Lee and Matt Johnson.

He was supposedly off our board entirely. I think Warford has already shown how laughably inept that decision was.
 

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Warford, from what I can understand, either was red-flagged off our board entirely or just significantly lowered on our board because of a knee injury. It wasn't because of scheme.

I didn't see any reports about a knee injury; however, I'm in favor of having smaller draft board and only taking players that they are sold on.

The Cowboys usually make good picks when they have really studied the player. Callahan spent extensive time with Frederick, whereas they didn't even meet with Claiborne prior to the draft.

Having a smaller board will inevitably result in passing on some players that turn out to be good; however, if it eliminates more of the bad picks, then it's still the method that I prefer.

I would pass on a guy like Cyril Richardson because I just don't trust him even though there a 50-50 chance that he turns out to be a good player.
 

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Knee injury? Apparently we only consider the real iron men of football like Sean Lee and Matt Johnson.

He was supposedly off our board entirely. I think Warford has already shown how laughably inept that decision was.

Oh completely agree. Our medical staff needs to be collectively slapped across the face on some of the debacles recently (Spencer, Ratliff maybe, Lee, Warford). Truth is that Warford should have been the pick in the R2 last year. I'm just saying I'm pretty positive there was a medical reason for him being off the board, and it wasn't because he didn't fit our ZBS.
 

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Oh completely agree. Our medical staff needs to be collectively slapped across the face on some of the debacles recently (Spencer, Ratliff maybe, Lee, Warford). Truth is that Warford should have been the pick in the R2 last year. I'm just saying I'm pretty positive there was a medical reason for him being off the board, and it wasn't because he didn't fit our ZBS.

That's news to me. I wasn't aware of any medical reason. The story floated out there was that he was a poor scheme fit.

Ya know, Warford doesn't fit. But Ronald Leary does.
 

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That's news to me. I wasn't aware of any medical reason. The story floated out there was that he was a poor scheme fit.

Ya know, Warford doesn't fit. But Ronald Leary does.

Don't forget that we also signed a 320 lb out of shape 37 year old to do the job that Warford was apparently incapable of doing.
 

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That's news to me. I wasn't aware of any medical reason. The story floated out there was that he was a poor scheme fit.

Ya know, Warford doesn't fit. But Ronald Leary does.

Don't forget that we also signed a 320 lb out of shape 37 year old to do the job that Warford was apparently incapable of doing.

Both awesome points. Leary and Waters was the OG tandem we chose for 2013. Both are in the Warford mold. I could be mistaken about the knee situation, but I'm 99% sure I heard that cited as the reason. I'll do some digging.

I wonder if Warford's success has us reevaluating the OG's for this year. Looks like Gabe Jackson is the closest comparable.
 
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