ogletree

This thread contains more information about Ogletree that I have not heard than any other I have read.

So Babe anointed him.
Romo anointed him.
He got behind defenses and Romo didn't see him.
His sidelines catch was the best catch of the season.

So, the RW11 one-handed catch where he drug his feet to stay in bounds wasn't as impressive?

Ogletree's seven catches, five of which were WR screens makes him Terry Glenn-like. The Terry Glenn that was known to be an excellent route runner with blazing speed. The Terry Glenn who made every route look exactly alike until the break.

As this thread eroded into wishing and hoping, I see people starting to wonder what the triplets nickname will be when we have three undrafted guys starting at skill positions.

So the comments by the WR coach stating Ogletree now has the ball in his court. They have done everything they can and he needs to step up and show the team means nothing.

I am for whom ever becomes the starter as long as the team gets better. But in a Q&A in another thread the mediot brought up that Austin doesn't fare well with press coverage. Romo doesn't like throwing into situations where the receiver is being pressed by the corner.

If dreaming of touchdowns and trophies with Ogletree is your thing, please carry one.

But maybe everyone should tap the brakes just a smidge until this guy has more than seven passes in a season.

The Miles Austin 18 passes in three years rebuttal in 5...4...3...2...

As if all things are equal.
 
TwoDeep3;3350452 said:
This thread contains more information about Ogletree that I have not heard than any other I have read.

So Babe anointed him.
Romo anointed him.
He got behind defenses and Romo didn't see him.
His sidelines catch was the best catch of the season.

So, the RW11 one-handed catch where he drug his feet to stay in bounds wasn't as impressive?

Ogletree's seven catches, five of which were WR screens makes him Terry Glenn-like. The Terry Glenn that was known to be an excellent route runner with blazing speed. The Terry Glenn who made every route look exactly alike until the break.

As this thread eroded into wishing and hoping, I see people starting to wonder what the triplets nickname will be when we have three undrafted guys starting at skill positions.

So the comments by the WR coach stating Ogletree now has the ball in his court. They have done everything they can and he needs to step up and show the team means nothing.

I am for whom ever becomes the starter as long as the team gets better. But in a Q&A in another thread the mediot brought up that Austin doesn't fare well with press coverage. Romo doesn't like throwing into situations where the receiver is being pressed by the corner.

If dreaming of touchdowns and trophies with Ogletree is your thing, please carry one.

But maybe everyone should tap the brakes just a smidge until this guy has more than seven passes in a season.

The Miles Austin 18 passes in three years rebuttal in 5...4...3...2...

As if all things are equal.
I will
 
TwoDeep3;3350452 said:
Ogletree's seven catches, five of which were WR screens makes him Terry Glenn-like.

I mentioned tapping the brakes on Kevin Ogletree in my earlier post.

I'm glad to have him as a Cowboy, but he did almost nothing but catch screen passes last year.

Wondering why Ogletree's catch percentage was so high, almost every pass he caught was at or behind the line of scrimmage.

The sideline out at new Orleans was a fantastic grab, so why didn't we see more actual routes with KO?

If Tony Romo "loves" Ogletree, why not direct more passes to him?

Sam Hurd had more big plays and saw his playing time cut in favor of the rookie.
 
Bluefin;3350522 said:
If Tony Romo "loves" Ogletree, why not direct more passes to him?
Because he doesn't control what players get to see the field or when.
 
SDCowboy85;3350525 said:
Because he doesn't control what players get to see the field or when.

Kevin Ogletree and Patrick Crayton were basically splitting snaps along with Roy Williams by season's end.

You wouldn't know it to look at KO's stats.

If he didn't get a screen pass thrown to him, he didn't make any plays.

And I love the fact Ogletree was so dynamic on those screens, but why is that the only time we got to see it?

Tony Romo wasn't exactly looking for Martellus Bennett in the playoffs and he still came up with 3 receptions to Ogletree's 1. Crayton and Williams each caught 5.
 
Apollo Creed;3350268 said:
Mods change the thread title so this looks a little more legit.

Kevin Ogletree will be next years Miles Austin.

Just like last year when I predicted Miles would breakout and be the #1 receiver, I expect Ogletree to break out and push Roy and Pat for playing time. He's light years better than Hurd (maybe not as a special teamer).

But from the conversation I had with Tony's father - this team is very high on him being a starter in the future. They say he's uncoverable in practice (he faces Jenkins and Newman mind you), catches everything, gets behind the defense, and works very hard. He's the reason why Jerry and Stephen aren't too worried about the WR position. But the reason we have to draft someone to push Hurd or Crayton for their jobs is because God forbid, if Miles Austin went down we would have a very slow receiving core that doesn't get much separation.

I would love so much having an undrafted quarterback throwing to two undrafted receivers, a former college QB, and a TE than used to play DE in college.

Awesome.

I believe Jerry has mentioned twice that Ogletree needs to learn how be a better pro. So I'm assuming he doesn't work that hard in practice.
 
I like Ogletree but I'm not yet ready to say he is another Miles Austin. He may be and I hope he is, but his chance to truly shine may come the way Austin's did. Somebody gets hurt. The front office is too timid about giving talented youngsters their heads until it is a necessity.

Even if he outperforms everybody when that happens, the draft snobs are likely to be underwhelmed. They are still uncomfortable with Austin and Romo.

:)
 
Austin/Ogletree as wideouts W/Crayton in the slot and Williams as the Redzone target could keep this teams passing offense running for years. Combine that with Witten/Bennett/Phillips as TE's and were golden.
 
I don't know why, but Ogletree has a very Steve Smith (Carolina) feel to him.
 
PHof83;3351028 said:
I don't know why, but Ogletree has a very Steve Smith (Carolina) feel to him.

Ogletree feels very much like this one player named Miles Austin.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3351030 said:
Ogletree feels very much like this one player named Miles Austin.
I guess it's hard for any of us to say for sure since Ogletree hasn't had much of a chance to play yet. But just based on what we have seen I don't know if he has the power that Austin appears to have. He obviously doesn't possess the size that Austin does either.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3351030 said:
Ogletree feels very much like this one player named Miles Austin.
in which way? in his rise to popularity and how he was undrafted or in their skill set and style of play?
 
Section444;3351032 said:
I guess it's hard for any of us to say for sure since Ogletree hasn't had much of a chance to play yet. But just based on what we have seen I don't know if he has the power that Austin appears to have. He obviously doesn't possess the size that Austin does either.

He'll get bigger and stronger. Ogletree should be much improved this year if he takes the game serious.
 
rkell87;3349585 said:
... unless roy completely melts down and drops like 9 balls in three games


Uh...hasn't he already done that?
 
Bob Sacamano;3350728 said:
I believe Jerry has mentioned twice that Ogletree needs to learn how be a better pro. So I'm assuming he doesn't work that hard in practice.

Word and I see what Jerry is saying.

But you obviously have to make some nosie in practice against guys like Jenkins and Newman (esp as an UDFA) to start to push for snaps against a guy with a 45 million dollar contract.
 
CATCH17;3351186 said:
He'll get bigger and stronger. Ogletree should be much improved this year if he takes the game serious.

I keep getting the vibe that he didn't really understand the opportunity that was presented to him last year. We were drawing up plays specifically to get him involved and get the ball in his hands, more than just screens contrary to popular belief.

I think he didn't really understand his own potential until late in the season last year.

P.s. word to the wise - when Romo starts hinting around about a receiver pay very cloes attention. But when Babe starts name dropping, remember that came spefically from the Garretts. Babe was shouting out Ogletree before anyone even knew he was suiting up. So I bet Babe was getting info straight from Red, and who eles would know his receivers and how they compliment our offense better than Red Jesus.

Red likes what he can do in this offense, Otree can run routes that Roy can't and he has the speed to fill that much needed Terry Glenn style speedster void.

We've got a great WR coach, if KO progresses like I'm sure he will - Romo's 2 favorite WRs next year will be UDFA.
 
Apollo Creed;3351294 said:
I keep getting the vibe that he didn't really understand the opportunity that was presented to him last year. We were drawing up plays specifically to get him involved and get the ball in his hands, more than just screens contrary to popular belief.

I think he didn't really understand his own potential until late in the season last year.

P.s. word to the wise - when Romo starts hinting around about a receiver pay very cloes attention. But when Babe starts name dropping, remember that came spefically from the Garretts.

Red likes what he can do in this offense, Otree can run routes that Roy can't and he has the speed to fill that much needed Terry Glenn style speedster void.

We've got a great WR coach, if KO progresses like I'm sure he will - Romo's 2 favorite WRs next year will be UDFA.

And hopefully shortly thereafter we'll be rid of Roy Worthless forever.
 
Bob Sacamano;3351296 said:
And hopefully shortly thereafter we'll be rid of Roy Worthless forever.

From your keyboard to God's ears.

I think its awesome that our undrafted QB's favorite targets are an UDFA from Monmouth, a former college QB, a former college DE, and hopefully an UDFA from Virginia next year.
 
CATCH17;3349613 said:
It seems like it but Romo is kinda like Peyton in the since that he does better with the great route runners at receiver.

Roy Williams is just a terrible fit here. He can only run 2 or 3 routes at a high level and his strength is making plays on the ball but Romo wont force passes and rarely gives his receivers a chance to make a play.

I think you may be on to something.
 

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