Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel resigns

[mldardy]

Joe doesn't cheat. Joe has the career wins record among major college coaches without cheating and while graduating the vast majority of his players.

Oh, and he's quite alive in his practices: 56 on is classic!)

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Yes Joe is such a saint. They had an Outside the Lines report a few years ago reporting that since 2002, 46 Penn State football players have faced 163 criminal charges, according to an ESPN analysis of Pennsylvania court records and reports. Twenty-seven players have been convicted of or have pleaded guilty to a combined 45 counts. Give me a break. Penn St has had a lot of problem childs over the years.

 

[CowboyDan]

Yes Joe is such a saint. They had an Outside the Lines report a few years ago reporting that since 2002, 46 Penn State football players have faced 163 criminal charges, according to an ESPN analysis of Pennsylvania court records and reports. Twenty-seven players have been convicted of or have pleaded guilty to a combined 45 counts. Give me a break. Penn St has had a lot of problem childs over the years.

Well this argument makes a lot of sense. Blaming Joe for the actions of is players.....hmmmm, let's see, how does this compare to what Jim Tressel did? Oh, that's right, Jim lied and covered it up. Joe doesn't do that. Do some research on how many of those 46 Penn State players faced disciplinary action from Paterno.

 

[mldardy]

Well this argument makes a lot of sense. Blaming Joe for the actions of is players.....hmmmm, let's see, how does this compare to what Jim Tressel did? Oh, that's right, Jim lied and covered it up. Joe doesn't do that. Do some research on how many of those 46 Penn State players faced disciplinary action from Paterno.

You don't know what Joe does. The fact is you are painting him out to be a saint a lot like people portrayed Tressel and those facts prove he isn't. None of these coaches are so stop putting him on a pedestal. So if you want to make that comparison that would be the one to make.

 

[CowboyDan]

You don't know what Joe does. The fact is you are painting him out to be a saint a lot like people portrayed Tressel and those facts prove he isn't. None of these coaches are so stop putting him on a pedestal. So if you want to make that comparison that would be the one to make.

The fact is there is no comparison. 401 wins, no violations, and an incredible career.

Tressel's been caught cheating twice now. (Youngstown State was the first time)

 

[Hoofbite]

Joe doesn't cheat. Joe has the career wins record among major college coaches without cheating and while graduating the vast majority of his players.

Oh, and he's quite alive in his practices: 56 on is classic!)

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You don't need to cheat when your players are afraid you'll put on contract on their head.

Dude looks like he's part of the mob.

 

[CowboyDan]

You don't need to cheat when your players are afraid you'll put on contract on their head.

Dude looks like he's part of the mob.

He'll make you an offer you can't refuse.

 

[Rogah]

Not at any major college, this thing is just getting started at OSU. Tressel is as dirty as they come.

He ain't any dirtier than Coach Cal, who recently jumped ship at Memphis (in scandal) to take his dream job at Kentucky.

There are plenty of colleges, major and otherwise, that would be happy to have him aboard.

 

[Rogah]

All this over a bunch of tattoos (and, yes, lies about tattoos)....

I doubt any recruits decided to attend OSU because of cheap/free tattoos.

I'm not an Ohio State fan (I could not care less about their team), but for all of the things to get in trouble over .... it just doesn't seem like a big deal.

This is the same reaction I had. I have no love for Ohio State - in fact I won't mind seeing some new teams at the top of the Big 10 (just not Michigan ). But when I think of what Cam Newton and Auburn did (and anyone who thinks Auburn is innocent is welcome to make me a serious offer on some swampland in Florida I am trying to move) while the NCAA gladly turned a blind eye and the Heisman Trust were all smiles as they gave him the most prestigious award in sports, I just can't help but get a bit nauseated.

I bet these things OSU got caught doing happen at more top-25 caliber schools than not.

 

[BigWillie]

My point is coaches for the most part get a free pass and it's the school and team left behind that gets hurt. Our 2008 season was wiped off the books but when Cal's "resume" is mentioned he is given credit for 2 final fours that were erased from history. He left because he knew what was coming.

For the most part, it is true. However, many times when it is can be absolutely proven that the coach knew and was complicit in violations it will follow them. In this case, Tressel is likely done forever as a collegiate coach.

Likely will not matter because I'm guessing he will still be treated as a saint in Ohio and just be labeled as the guy who took the blame in the mess. Players and administration absolutely love Tressel still, but he had to take the fall.

Yeah you're right, what Calipari did and continues to do without facing any punishment and what Tressel did is not comparable, Calipari's is much worse because it has happened at 2 programs(UMass and Memphis) and now it is continuing at UK but no one seems to care as much. I am sorry but guys like Calipari who keep leaving trails of **** are far worse than guys like Tressel.

At UMass, Marcus Camby was paid by an agent.

At Memphis, Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT.

Jim Tressel was proven for a fact knowing and somewhat complicit in what happened at OSU.

Still comparable?

I hate Calipari myself, but alot of the stuff said about him is based off of rumor more than fact.

It's like the old stories about Michael Jordan's car dealerships in The Triangle constantly hooking up UNC athletes. Or the old stories of Coach K getting Chris Duhon's mother a job that she had absolutely no qualifications to receive.

People will live off rumors long enough until the point they buy them as a fact.

 

[Rogah]

At UMass, Marcus Camby was paid by an agent.

At Memphis, Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT.

Jim Tressel was proven for a fact knowing and somewhat complicit in what happened at OSU.

Still comparable?

Call me crazy, but yes they are very comparable.

 

[Concord]

Concord, as the only other Buckeye fan on here how you feeling right now about this that is going on. I hated seeing Tressel go out like this, yeah I know he dug his own grave but this guy has gave me some of the greatest moments in my lifetime as a Buckeye football fan. I know that they will continue to have success under whoever the coach is but just wanted to know what your feelings are about this whole mess.

Basically I'm just sick and pissed.

I can't believe that a fantastic football coach lost his job because of guys getting discounted tattoo's and selling their own stuff.

Yes he tried to cover up for those dumb *** players...but if they never do it in the first place he's never in that position.

Pryor and them rest of those players better get ready for the backlash...cause it's coming... and as far as I'm concerned I'd never let any of them on the field again.

This man took Ohio St to heights I had never seen as a fan...in my time watching them.

He understood and embraced the traditions at Ohio St that I'm not sure just any old coach would or will.

The bar has been set very high for the next coach.

A very sad time for Buckeye fans.

 

[jimmy40]

the funny thing is now you have a guy taking over that played at OSU, has been an assistant coach there for 10 years and absolutely without a doubt knew more about what was going on than Tressel did.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is the same reaction I had. I have no love for Ohio State - in fact I won't mind seeing some new teams at the top of the Big 10 (just not Michigan ). But when I think of what Cam Newton and Auburn did (and anyone who thinks Auburn is innocent is welcome to make me a serious offer on some swampland in Florida I am trying to move) while the NCAA gladly turned a blind eye and the Heisman Trust were all smiles as they gave him the most prestigious award in sports, I just can't help but get a bit nauseated.

I bet these things OSU got caught doing happen at more top-25 caliber schools than not.

I agree with you Rogah. I too am tired of seeing the NCAA look past obvious violations in exchange for short term exposure. It's been rather obvious, IMO. Everybody knew USC was dirty and was dirty for some time but the NCAA didn't drop the hammer until USC was on a downturn and the ratings for the program were going to start producing diminishing results. Only then did the NCAA do what they should have been doing all along. Same thing with many other programs before and after.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

the funny thing is now you have a guy taking over that played at OSU, has been an assistant coach there for 10 years and absolutely without a doubt knew more about what was going on than Tressel did.

But OSU knows that no big time coach is going to accept that job right now. There are a few more apples that will fall off the tree before this thing gets to a point where the program is out of the headlines. At that point, they will offer the job to Urban Meyer and it will then be a good job for him to accept. This guy will be sent on his way and that will be that.

Everybody knows how this is going to work.

 

[jimmy40]

But OSU knows that no big time coach is going to accept that job right now. There are a few more apples that will fall off the tree before this thing gets to a point where the program is out of the headlines. At that point, they will offer the job to Urban Meyer and it will then be a good job for him to accept. This guy will be sent on his way and that will be that.

Everybody knows how this is going to work.

Yeah, I know how it's going to work, it's just funny that it's OK with the NCAA that an assistant coach that they know is closer to the dirty players than Tressel was is taking over, even if for one year.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Tressel was stupid more than dirty.

He should never have covered for ANY player.

He should have cut his losses, and get another player. He has great high school players all over his sidelines.

To lay on a sword for any one of them was stupid.

Even Pryor. If he broke the rules, get rid of him and get the next QB ready to go.

All schools don't have that luxury, but the big boys do, ... and Ohio State is one of the schools that could get rid of great players and still be competitive.

Tressel rolled in the mud with the pigs instead of staying above it, or he would still be the HC at OSU.

Stupid.

 

[BigWillie]

Call me crazy, but yes they are very comparable.

You're crazy. Very.

 

[DIAF]

Tressel was stupid more than dirty.

He should never have covered for ANY player.

He should have cut his losses, and get another player. He has great high school players all over his sidelines.

To lay on a sword for any one of them was stupid.

Even Pryor. If he broke the rules, get rid of him and get the next QB ready to go.

All schools don't have that luxury, but the big boys do, ... and Ohio State is one of the schools that could get rid of great players and still be competitive.

Tressel rolled in the mud with the pigs instead of staying above it, or he would still be the HC at OSU.

Stupid.

From reading all the info out there, it goes way before and beyond Terrell Pryor.

 

[Rogah]

You're crazy. Very.

How so? Please don't tell me you're foolish and naive enough to believe Calipari had no idea those things were going on. In fact, the comparison is a poor one but only in the sense that Calipari is more corrupt and guilty than Tressel, not less.

 

[BigWillie]

How so? Please don't tell me you're foolish and naive enough to believe Calipari had no idea those things were going on. In fact, the comparison is a poor one but only in the sense that Calipari is more corrupt and guilty than Tressel, not less.

Again, this goes back to rumor and what people want to believe. I don't like to live off of rumors, and base my thoughts that way. But that's just me.

Agree to disagree.