OK, do we have a RB controversy?

[GimmeTheBall!]

Someone tell me why JJ found himself on the sidelines late in the game. Was it to prevent injury? Was it an injury? Did Parcells want to give him a breather?

Whatever happened, I think I can see the maturation of Marion Barber III from straight-ahead fullback-type banger to a wily oversized RB who is giving JJ a run for the title of first-string RB.

I think we are in high cotton to have two tough and savvy runners like JJ adn MBIII.

Both can't play at the same time (duh!) but they can alternate. They can spell each other to stay fresh. They can pound the ball up the middle and off tackle or around the TE, respectvely.

Nope. No controvesy. The ony controversy will be as to whether Parcells plays it JJ 55% of the time and MBIII 45% of the time.

Doesn't matter to me. I say 50-50.

As exciting as Romo has been or poised to be, the smash-mouth running game is what is exciting me. I see great potention in these two. A tandem that will eat up yards, move the chains, rest the defense, eat the up the clock and set up the opposing D for a quick strike to Witten or T.O.

That would be my plan, anyway, for the mighty Colts. (oh, yeah, and get to Manning every once in a while. Maybe get Roy to put the hurt, um, i mean, pressure, on him)

Things are looking mighty good, dudes. Romo and company are just beginning to exert and ply their talents.
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[Doomsday101]

Someone tell me why JJ found himself on the sidelines late in the game. Was it to prevent injury? Was it an injury? Did Parcells want to give him a breather?

Whatever happened, I think I can see the maturation of Marion Barber III from straight-ahead fullback-type banger to a wily oversized RB who is giving JJ a run for the title of first-string RB.

I think we are in high cotton to have two tough and savvy runners like JJ adn MBIII.

Both can't play at the same time (duh!) but they can alternate. They can spell each other to stay fresh. They can pound the ball up the middle and off tackle or around the TE, respectvely.

Nope. No controvesy. The ony controversy will be as to whether Parcells plays it JJ 55% of the time and MBIII 45% of the time.

Doesn't matter to me. I say 50-50.

As exciting as Romo has been or poised to be, the smash-mouth running game is what is exciting me. I see great potention in these two. A tandem that will eat up yards, move the chains, rest the defense, eat the up the clock and set up the opposing D for a quick strike to Witten or T.O.

That would be my plan, anyway, for the mighty Colts. (oh, yeah, and get to Manning every once in a while. Maybe get Roy to put the hurt, um, i mean, pressure, on him)

Things are looking mighty good, dudes. Romo and company are just beginning to exert and ply their talents.
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If 1 or 2 people on a message board constitutes a controversy then yes. Reality no both backs see plenty of action it is not as if 1 guy is getting the entire load and the other only sees action now and then.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

There is no controversary. I know BP was pissed about the chop block. JJ didn't see much time after that. (Yes, I know what the score was. BP was sending a message).

JJ will have a huge day against Indy...Mark it down.

 

[jazzcat22]

No controvesry.
BP has staed many times....JJ is the starter. MB is the 3rd down back, and spells JJ a few series. Taking nothing from MB getting some extended playing time now and then.

 

[joseephuss]

There is no controversary. I know BP was pissed about the chop block. JJ didn't see much time after that. (Yes, I know what the score was. BP was sending a message).

JJ will have a huge day against Indy...Mark it down.

Was Parcells pissed at JJ for the chop block? He wasn't sending a message. He was letting his starter rest and letting his back up get some extra snaps. Doing that makes both better in the long run.

 

[Crown Royal]

No controversy. Both our backs are very productive (BOTH OF THEM PEOPLE) and are playing well. If it ain't broke....

 

[superpunk]

Weird question. I didn't think Kincade showed nearly enough in his snaps to supplant Barber. Tough situation to be in, though. They knew we were running.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

I saw it on another site I visit. The poster was a the game and said Parcells chewed him out pretty good.

 

[superpunk]

I saw it on another site I visit. The poster was a the game and said Parcells chewed him out pretty good.

If that happened, I think Parcells is ********. Jones engaged the guy low before Witten fell on him. He should have chewed out Witten, not Julius, if he was looking for someone to blame.

 

[joseephuss]

If that happened, I think Parcells is ********. Jones engaged the guy low before Witten fell on him. He should have chewed out Witten, not Julius, if he was looking for someone to blame.

I think it was Kosier, not Witten. Maybe Parcells thought Julius should have gotten to his block sooner or stayed up instead of going for the legs. Little things that could have prevented the call. I still don't think he was held out to get a message through. He was being rested for a tough game against Indy followed up by a short week to face Tampa. That was the smart thing to do.

 

[AbeBeta]

Was Parcells pissed at JJ for the chop block?

No -- Bill was chewing on the refs pretty good about that one -- he might have got on JJ after the call but it was clear from Bill's reaction after the change of possession that he heard from the booth that it was a very very bad call.

 

[Stautner]

This is an attempt to create controversy where none exists.

So Barber had a good game? JJ has good games too.

Do so few people realize what's happenning here. JJ carries the bulk of the load as the primary RB and Barber fills in on 3rd downs and late in the game.

Think about that.

Third downs when we are expected to pass, so when we do run there are more running lanes open than on 1st and 2nd down. Late in the game, when the defenses are worn down and we use the bigger RB to take advantage of weary tacklers and pound it down the throat of the defense.

Switch the roles and it would likely not be as effective.

Now, I'm not knocking Barber. I think he's a good RB and perhaps he should get a few more snaps. But if so we are only talking about a small adjustment - maybe instead of getting 30% of the overall carries by RB's maybe Barber should get 35-40%.

Maybe.

But even so, that hardly makes for a RB controversy.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think some of it is strategy. Get the D tired.. then give them a heavy dose of MBIII late in the game.. he is hard to tackle regardless.. when he is going against a DL that is tired.. 3 yd runs turn into 6 yd runs, and first downs..

I think the combination of backs is perfect right now.. JJ is a good back that is very good. Some of you guys that want MBIII as the starter, should think about a few things.. JJ is running primarly against a base D while MBIII is running primarly against nickel and dime D's. And if you use MBIII a lot early.. then he would lose his effectiness later in the game. JMHO

 

[AbeBeta]

We've got two big games coming up in a short period of time. Bill knows he's likely going to need to run the hell out of Julius against Indy or TB.

I love MBIII but he's not going to take Julius' job any time soon.

MBIII got a bone yesterday-- he came in and got the chance to take advantage of a beaten down and tired D.

 

[SMCowboy]

I think it was Kosier, not Witten. Maybe Parcells thought Julius should have gotten to his block sooner or stayed up instead of going for the legs. Little things that could have prevented the call. I still don't think he was held out to get a message through. He was being rested for a tough game against Indy followed up by a short week to face Tampa. That was the smart thing to do.

No way that Parcells is upset that JJ went low on the guy. RB's are TAUGHT to go low on LB's and DL. So no way that he thought JJ should have gone high on that one.

I also find it hard to believe that he would get on JJ for it period, as he couldn't have gotten him sooner, JJ took him on as soon as he got him, RB's are not taught to go get anyone but to take there position and take who ever comes to them.

 

[Marktui]

Parcells had Barber in there because he is the stronger runner of the two. We were just trying to milk the clock so it was going to be a heavy dose of up the middle runs. Barber is better at that than Jones.

I will take both every week. Its like Thunder and Lightning. Each brings his own talent to the game. I am fine with it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

This is an attempt to create controversy where none exists.

Both are very good runners. Both had similar totals (Barber had the edge in per attempts) and boards are hyped on how good both are and how much MBIII has come on.

That being the case, my humble point about a controversy.

Sorry you don't agree.
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[Aikbach]

Both are very good runners. Both had similar totals (Barber had the edge in per attempts) and boards are hyped on how good both are and how much MBIII has come on.

That being the case, my humble point about a controversy.

Sorry you don't agree.
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Jones winds the defense with his speed and agility early and Barber punishes and bruises the fatigued defenders late. It is a good strategy.

 

[Stautner]

Both are very good runners. Both had similar totals (Barber had the edge in per attempts) and boards are hyped on how good both are and how much MBIII has come on.

That being the case, my humble point about a controversy.

Sorry you don't agree.
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If we were talking about one guy playing poorly and one guy playing well that would be different.

If we were talking about one guy getting 85% of the carries and one getting 15% that would be different.

If we were talking about 2 guys with the same traits and skills and one was just more effective that would be different.

But when we are talking about 2 guys that are already splitting time and that virtually everyone agrees should be splitting time, and the shared duties are working out well, therefore the only point of discussion could really be should the split be altered somewhat.

Accordingly, my point is, and was, that while it may be interesting to discuss whether there should be a slight shift in the percentage of carries going to each RB, that doesn't rise to the level of a controversy.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

It is great to have two quality NFL backs....we are lucky