Ok Draft gurus, for us getting a rb, what are the best 10 times in 40, first 10

[cowboyjoe]

ok guys, got a good question for you, for the running back that we will draft, nfl network was talking about running back, and the first 10 yards in the 40, they mentioned that emmitt smith didnt have a great 40, but he had the best 10 yards in the 40;

so my question is this guys draft gurus and combine, where do you find the first 10 yards in the 40 on the combine, to me, thats what we need we have the power running back in barber, but we need a quick fast running back with the best quickness of the first 10 yards in the 40, where do you find that stats of the combine, so we will know what running back has the best quickness in the first 10 yards in the 40,

 

[masomenos]

I don't know everyones 10 yard split time but I know Chris Johnson ran a ridiculous 1.40. For comparison Adrian Peterson's time last year was 1.53, Joseph Addai was a 1.52, Maurice Jones Drew was 1.58, Edgerrin James was a 1.49. Before Johnson's time no RB had ever ran a split below 1.45 and I believe just 4 guys have ever ran below 1.5. Johnson's 10 yard split is the fastest in combine history, at any position, dating back to 1999.

Im not sure if any sites have full listing of the 10yd splits yet, but they should in the weeks leading up to the draft. The other guys with below 1.5 at RB were Justin Fargas, Lorenzo Booker and Deshawn Wynn. Everyone knows the success Edgerrin James has had over his career, Justin Fargas ran for over 1000 yards while starting 7 games last year, and Wynn and Booker were rookies last year but had over 4 YPC on very limited carries.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't know everyones 10 yard split time but I know Chris Johnson ran a ridiculous 1.40. For comparison Adrian Peterson's time last year was 1.53, Joseph Addai was a 1.52, Maurice Jones Drew was 1.58, Edgerrin James was a 1.49. Before Johnson's time no RB had ever ran a split below 1.45 and I believe just 4 guys have ever ran below 1.5. Johnson's 10 yard split is the fastest in combine history, at any position, dating back to 1999.

Im not sure if any sites have full listing of the 10yd splits yet, but they should in the weeks leading up to the draft. The other guys with below 1.5 at RB were Justin Fargas, Lorenzo Booker and Deshawn Wynn. Everyone knows the success Edgerrin James has had over his career, Justin Fargas ran for over 1000 yards while starting 7 games last year, and Wynn and Booker were rookies last year but had over 4 YPC on very limited carries.

how is this guy not 1st round material ?

 

[masomenos]

how is this guy not 1st round material ?

Like I said, I wouldn't be upset if we took him in the first, but just because I think he'll be drafted fairly early in the second. He only had one year of solid production, he's from a small school, there are questions about his ability to tun inside and he's had neck injuries. There are just a lot of question marks about him and they can't all just be overlooked because he's fast. Team's that go with higher risk prospects in the first round often times end up with busts on their hand (see: Matt Jones). I'm not saying his not talented, he is, and I think he'd be a good fit on our team because of his versatility and thats why I wouldn't be up in arms if we took him at #28, but to suggest that he's a sure fire first round lock is foolish.

 

[masomenos]

Darren McFadden ran a 1.49

 

[ThatsmyQB]

how is this guy not 1st round material ?

bECAUSE HE'S FAST FROM 0-10 YARDS?
I'll tell ya why, cause he's not a STARTING R.B. Material!
He can run FAST, but he's not that powerful or is the best vision or cutting!
He's decent at everything, and FAST AS HELL, but is not GREAT at anything and people question whether he can be a full tim eback, you even said yourself that MAYBE 2 years down the road he can be a main back, does ANY TEAM want to draft a R.B. in round 1 who's NOT gonna be their MAIN BACK from day 1?
That's why he's 2nd round material!
Could he be and turn into a top back, sure, but you even said yourself, he's not ready to step in and be a teams MAIN BACK and carry 25 times a game, people don't wanna draft a R.B. in round 1 unless they can carry the load for them!

 

[BAT]

how is this guy not 1st round material ?

Because he doesn't like to run BETWEEN the tackles, preferring to take it outside at any opportunity.

And he is a converted WR w/one good year who does not like/not accostomed to the physicality of the position.

Not to mention Romo would be killed if Johnson is expected to pick up a blitz.

 

[cowboyjoe]

thanks guys i appreciate that, i know at the time, emmitt smith was the fastest in his days with the 10 yard split time, so to me, thats what we need.

i dont want chris johnson to carry 25 times, i want him to split time with barber, and be the speed elusive back, quick to the hole, change of pace back for barber, then you will have a one two punch.

i have heard, like one guy posted he has had neck injuries and a toe injury, so that cuts him down some, since you dont want to pick your number 1 draft pick to be a bust,

im not saying chris is, i think he is what we need, compared to barber, or either jamaal charles or rice, then we will be loaded at running back, for years to come,

 

[Nors]

The old ESPN insider had this stuff, 10 and 20 splits

What you want to watch for QUICKNESS is the shuttle and 3 cone drills.

Two Drill's that Ray Rice excelled at top 2 I believe for RB. Yet he is only a 4.45-4.5 guy. Having watched RR - Know he is very explosive and quick and has strong lower body.

Thats my biggest concern on Dmac. Runs high and not so strong after first hit - weaker lower body but a 4.33 WOWS people I guess.

 

[DFWJC]

bECAUSE HE'S FAST FROM 0-10 YARDS?
I'll tell ya why, cause he's not a STARTING R.B. Material!
He can run FAST, but he's not that powerful or is the best vision or cutting!
He's decent at everything, and FAST AS HELL, but is not GREAT at anything and people question whether he can be a full tim eback, you even said yourself that MAYBE 2 years down the road he can be a main back, does ANY TEAM want to draft a R.B. in round 1 who's NOT gonna be their MAIN BACK from day 1?
That's why he's 2nd round material!
Could he be and turn into a top back, sure, but you even said yourself, he's not ready to step in and be a teams MAIN BACK and carry 25 times a game, people don't wanna draft a R.B. in round 1 unless they can carry the load for them!

You do NOT know that. However, I have to agree that with this deep RB draft I would probably not use a #1 on CJ either. To say he is not great at anything...I would have to disagree. He is great at receiving out of the backfield, at finding ht ecrease and exploding, at open field misdoirection, at kickoff returns....even hsi very versatile and good-to-great at many things. He isnot, however, Jerome Bettis.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn't be up in arms if we took him at #28, but to suggest that he's a sure fire first round lock is foolish.

if he's there at 28, he's probably BPA

28 sounds about right for him

 

[TheCount]

ok guys, got a good question for you, for the running back that we will draft, nfl network was talking about running back, and the first 10 yards in the 40, they mentioned that emmitt smith didnt have a great 40, but he had the best 10 yards in the 40;

so my question is this guys draft gurus and combine, where do you find the first 10 yards in the 40 on the combine, to me, thats what we need we have the power running back in barber, but we need a quick fast running back with the best quickness of the first 10 yards in the 40, where do you find that stats of the combine, so we will know what running back has the best quickness in the first 10 yards in the 40,

I don't think they said he had "the best", they said he had a very good first 10 or something to that effect.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

bECAUSE HE'S FAST FROM 0-10 YARDS?
I'll tell ya why, cause he's not a STARTING R.B. Material!
He can run FAST, but he's not that powerful or is the best vision or cutting!
He's decent at everything, and FAST AS HELL, but is not GREAT at anything and people question whether he can be a full tim eback, you even said yourself that MAYBE 2 years down the road he can be a main back, does ANY TEAM want to draft a R.B. in round 1 who's NOT gonna be their MAIN BACK from day 1?
That's why he's 2nd round material!
Could he be and turn into a top back, sure, but you even said yourself, he's not ready to step in and be a teams MAIN BACK and carry 25 times a game, people don't wanna draft a R.B. in round 1 unless they can carry the load for them!

Reggie bush selected number 2 overall back up RB. Cedrick Benson selected in the top 5 back up RB. We are using a two back system thats why we can afford to pick a RB in the 1st round and not require him to come in and start that takes a lot of pressure off of him and he gets to come in learn the offense and learn under our VET rb. It doesn't matter what position we draft in the first round they will not start. We don't even have a RB on our roster that can carry 25 times a game and for any fan to expect anything of the such for anybody we draft is foolish.

Because he doesn't like to run BETWEEN the tackles, preferring to take it outside at any opportunity.

And he is a converted WR w/one good year who does not like/not accostomed to the physicality of the position.

Not to mention Romo would be killed if Johnson is expected to pick up a blitz.

Lets clear up two myths right now
1 Johnson runs up the middle inbetween the tackles and doesn't have a preference he runs where the whole is and doesn't try to force it to the outside. A converted WR turned RB but yet he isn't physical enough for you wouldn't he have stayed out WR if he couldn't take the hits?

2. Johnson is a beast in the gym and can lift. HE may need to work on his technique but for you to think he can't take on a blizting LB is foolish. I doubt any body is just going to run through him.

if he's there at 28, he's probably BPA

28 sounds about right for him

lol @ ur sig =)

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol @ ur sig =)

powder?

 

[dogberry]

19 games times 25 carries equals 475. Does anyone do this? Can it be sustained?

 

[theogt]

They're now posted on NFLDraftScout.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/member...os=RB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=ten&order=DESC

Two things I noticed. For being "slow" running backs without much "burst," Ray Rice and Tashard Choice sure had excellent 10-yard split times (ranked 6th and 4th respectively). And, of course, both of their cone drills were impressive, particularly Rice.

When you look at 20-yard split, Rice had the 2nd fastest time among RBs.

 

[TheCount]

They're now posted on NFLDraftScout.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/member...os=RB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=ten&order=DESC

Two things I noticed. For being "slow" running backs without much "burst," Ray Rice and Tashard Choice sure had excellent 10-yard split times (ranked 6th and 4th respectively). And, of course, both of their cone drills were impressive, particularly Rice.

When you look at 20-yard split, Rice had the 2nd fastest time among RBs.

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