Ok,they are talking Cowboys a pounding running team, offensive linemen in draft?

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Ok, as we all know, we cut T O, even Norm on theticket is saying this team is now a running team. Remember Wade said we have to take the ball out of Romos hands and run, etc.

So, do we need to go get a big mauling offensive linemen like offensive guard Duke Robinson or Herman Johnson. Norm said maybe offensive tackle, and a big bruising TE.

so what do you zoners think we need to draft to help us out in the running game. At same time we have to shore up our defense too, and kinda play like the steelers and ravens play on defense.
 

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Norm must be insane if he thinks the Cowboys are going to draft yet another TE. If the running game is going to be the emphasis, then a lead blocking FB should be a priority.

I like the idea of adding a masher to the OL, but that was being speculated even before all the "whoa" cuts started. I would strongly consider drafting a "smarter" (more technically proficient) center and sliding Gurode out to guard. One of Romo/offense's problems was clearly the Center/QB exchange AND the late/slow snaps (causing everyone and their mother to jump at the oddest times).
 

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cowboyjoe;2670880 said:
Ok, as we all know, we cut T O, even Norm on theticket is saying this team is now a running team. Remember Wade said we have to take the ball out of Romos hands and run, etc.

So, do we need to go get a big mauling offensive linemen like offensive guard Duke Robinson or Herman Johnson. Norm said maybe offensive tackle, and a big bruising TE.

so what do you zoners think we need to draft to help us out in the running game. At same time we have to shore up our defense too, and kinda play like the steelers and ravens play on defense.

We already have an O-Line that is made to pound the ball (especially if you insert Holland into Kosier's spot): Flozell, Holland, Gurode, Bigg, Colombo.
 

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Upgrade Kosier, Proctor, and Holland with either:

1. Duke Robinson
2. Herman Johnson

I don't think the Cowboys are going to turn into the Giants. Garrett and Romo are going to attack. The run/pass ratio should be more balanced or about 46-47% run.

I think Duke Robinson has been a little over valued in the draft, and I think he can be had at # 51, and it would be a steal to get him there. I think he just might be there, and I wouldn't hesitate to take him.

I think the shortage at saftey and the centers and a couple of tackles and defensive ends could push him to Dallas.
 

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BAT;2673528 said:
Norm must be insane if he thinks the Cowboys are going to draft yet another TE. If the running game is going to be the emphasis, then a lead blocking FB should be a priority.

I like the idea of adding a masher to the OL, but that was being speculated even before all the "whoa" cuts started. I would strongly consider drafting a "smarter" (more technically proficient) center and sliding Gurode out to guard. One of Romo/offense's problems was clearly the Center/QB exchange AND the late/slow snaps (causing everyone and their mother to jump at the oddest times).

I think when people say, "a big bruising TE", it's more or less interchangeable with the type of character we'd see in a fullback.

And Gurode was pretty ordinary at guard. He's too good an anchor to worry too much about the exchanges, etc. That's coachable.
 

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I would like to improve depth.

Send Proctor on his way.

The starting line looks pretty okay to me. Flozell, Kosier/Holland, Gurode, Davis, Colombo.

If you asked me the weak spot, I'd have to say Adams.

If a top prospect falls into the teams lap, why not get him but I don't think the team needs to be targeting linemen. Get a couple earlier on the 2nd day to improve depth.
 

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i totally agree, either a big bruising fullback or a big bruising blocking TE

and a couple of big maulers on the offensive line
 

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Shinywalrus;2675220 said:
I think when people say, "a big bruising TE", it's more or less interchangeable with the type of character we'd see in a fullback.

And Gurode was pretty ordinary at guard. He's too good an anchor to worry too much about the exchanges, etc. That's coachable.

Gurode is going into his 8th season in the league. And its not like he had to learn the position since he played it in college. How much longer will he need to "coached" so he can learn the snap count and stop shot gunning balls over his QBs head?


Gurode was ordinary at Center too under Parcells. So much so that he drafted Al Johnson in the 2nd.


Gurode is a typical Houck OG. Under Houck's man blocking schemes, he would not have to pull and trap as much as he needed to under Parcells zone blocking schemes.


But most importantly, Cowboys need a leader on the OL. That OL is STILL missing an identity.
 

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Goldenrichards83;2675603 said:
Brannan Southerland would be perfect for us:

I like him, but over the last coupla years it has become clear that the Boys do not choose to employ a true FB most of the time... I don't see them drafting one this time around...

Me, I'd like to find the next Moose...
 

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I'd be entirely cool with drafting Duke Robinson in the 2nd round and Antoine Caldwell in the 3rd... I'm that set on upgrading the depth on the OL (though it wouldn't surprise me if Robinson started from day one)...
 

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Eric Wood can be our new center with pick #51...
 

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silverbear;2679043 said:
I like him, but over the last coupla years it has become clear that the Boys do not choose to employ a true FB most of the time... I don't see them drafting one this time around...

Me, I'd like to find the next Moose...

There will never be another Moose

That said, Southerland is someone I'd take to come in and challenge DA. He was injured alot last yr, but his other 3yrs he was a solid player as a lead blocker, reliable receiver and scored alot of short yardage tds too.
 

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Goldenrichards, im not fond of your fullback here is why;
Brannan Southerland
FB, Georgia
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a tough and competitive fullback who attacks the defender on lead blocks. Can fit through tight quarters to reach defenders, accelerating into blocks and hitting with full force. Is smart, knows his pass-blocking assignments and steps up to pick up blitzers aggressively. Shows good hands catching the ball out of the backfield and holds onto the ball after a hard hit. Is a competitive runner.

Weaknesses: Is not a premier athlete. Struggles to bend knees for low lead blocks, limiting movement. Tends to stop moving his feet after the initial blow and will fall off the block. Shows stiff hip movements, struggling to block moving targets i
n the open field. Is not a strong or powerful inside runner; gets tripped up by low arm tackles.
Bottom line: Southerland is coming off a second surgery in two years to repair a fracture in his left foot. Despite getting healthy and playing down the stretch for Georgia, he will have to pass the medical exams at the NFL Combine in order to be drafted. He is a tough, hard-nosed fullback who could become a solid NFL starter, but he must improve his lead blocking to be anything more than a backup.
 

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silverbear;2679046 said:
I'd be entirely cool with drafting Duke Robinson in the 2nd round and Antoine Caldwell in the 3rd... I'm that set on upgrading the depth on the OL (though it wouldn't surprise me if Robinson started from day one)...

Alternatively, if Alex Mack fell to pick 51, the Boys could draft him, then go for Kraig Urbik in the 3rd or Cornelius Lewis in the 4th, and I'd be just about as happy...
 

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silverbear;2679046 said:
I'd be entirely cool with drafting Duke Robinson in the 2nd round and Antoine Caldwell in the 3rd... I'm that set on upgrading the depth on the OL (though it wouldn't surprise me if Robinson started from day one)...


Id rather have Eric Wood in the 3rd
 

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they are still going to draft somebody on the defensive front seven with #51, unless a LT slides:star:
 

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Biggems;2679515 said:
Id rather have Eric Wood in the 3rd


Caldwell's stronger and more physical than Wood is... I could live with Eric, but with the Boys facing Haynesworth twice a year, well, let's just say that the thought of Cory Procter going up against Fat Albert if Gurode was hurt does not inspire confidence... you need a big mauling center to deal with him...
 
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