Ok, why the poor record predictions everywhere again?

LarryCanadian

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I'm a bit confused (nothing new there).

Other than Owens, this team isn't drastically different from the last 3 years and we had 9-7, 13-3, and 9-7.

So where are the glaring weaknesses RELATIVE to previous years. Is it that, Phili and NYG have gotten significant upgrades while Dallas hasn't?

QB, Romo should be more mature and Kitna is a strong backup that adds a bit of leadership to squad even when not playing.

We might have an "older" oline (not sure that is totally true) ok, but 3 of the guys are consistent pro-bowlers, even though they MIGHT be a bit overrated, I would suggest they aren't bad.
The QB is considered top 5-10 by most "experts". Like it or not, adding RW WR helps offset Owens a little bit, and the rest of bodies are the same and a bit more seasoned in terms of Hurd/Austin.

At TE, we have the best one in league, AND probably the most talented #2 TE in league as well.

At RB we have 3 guys that can play, and each can handle all 3 aspects of game, running, blocking, catching. Barber has been to Pro-bowl and Felix is pretty much thought by even the experts to be a potential super-star playmaker.

So I guess the Owens factor counts for 2 games or so in mass media and public opinion?

On Defense, we have Ware and Raitliff as probowlers. James is close. I think the subtraction of safety RW is a plus/upgrade. Newman, if healthy is up there, top 5-10 CB and Jenkins/Scandrick certainly look like they have big upsides still (talent is there at least).

Depth is a concern, but really only see one glaring difference between this squad and the one that went 13-3 2 seasons ago and that is TO. I do admit this team could really go either way though. Other than oline, it is a pretty darn young team again.

Improved special teams and a fewer turnover/dumb mistake offense would make a major difference in the win columns, but has to be proven first. We saw signs of it in pre-season though (I have faith in DeCamilis) and Romo seems to be doing (2 hands on ball, held close to chest) and saying (less "that is the same as a punt" type attitude) the right thing about the fumbles/picks = true maturity hopefully.

I know we might only reap the depth benefit from this last draft 1-2 seasons from now, but I don't think that other than TO this team is radically different than the last 3 seasons in terms of personnel, or am I missing a couple of "names" that were difference makers. Ellis? Certainly not Tank, PacMan, Henry, etc. They were not playing at anywhere close to an elite level or their talent, and this is why I think we underachieved last year, and I think the philosophy change was the correct course. On paper the talent might be less, but on the field, in theory, we should be more consistent and HOPEFULLY a bit more mentally resilient and tougher with the wingnuts given the boot!

Why the perception change regarding this team? Is it really all TO and the underachieving posse that has been shown the door?

LarryCanadian
 

Ren

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Let the pick the poor record they where wrong about us for the past 2 years and they will be again this year :laugh2:
 

Hoofbite

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Everyone has been let down the last few years so they might as well shoot low this year.
 

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CATCH17;2928091 said:
Cause we're the Cowboys and everybody hates us?

Did they hate Dallas when they were picking them as the favorites?
 

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Rackat;2928099 said:
Yes, yes they did. :laugh2:

Yes they hated us so much the hyped us up so when we fell they could laugh at us.:D
 

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Under the raaaadddddaaaarrrrrr.

Ahhh, how sweeeeeet.

With Romo, all things are possible.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2928109 said:
Yes they hated us so much the hyped us up so when we fell they could laugh at us.:D
The hate never goes away, even when they think we're going to be good. :D
 

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Good post. Really, the important thing to remember is that these pre-season predictions are rarely accurate. If you have time, look through the archive at similar predictions made prior to other seasons. The only one who had Arizona in the championship game was Bradshaw, of all people, let alone the Superbowl.

Predictions tend to lag about a year behind. I, for one, see a reasonably easy schedule, weakness in the NFC East, and an improved chemistry and attitude in our Cowboys. My expectations are higher since the start of training camp, and I hope that yours are too.

Most of all, remember flying below the radar is what the new Cowboys are all about. The media circus is gone.
 

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I don't know ... it may have something to do with how the season ended last year.
 

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i can't wait for the stories later in the season when all the idjits are talking about the "surprising" success of this team... and throwing in, as if it were a secret, that "folks in dallas, however, are not surprised. they had an idea early on that this team was a lot stronger than we were giving it credit for being."
 

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Color me a homer, but I think we'll be at least an 11 win team.

The Eagles won't amount to much.

The Commanders are bottom-feeders.

The Giants will be tough, and they'll be the team we have to contend with for the division.
 

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:hammer: :shush:don't let them know it, yet.


Ren;2928085 said:
Let the pick the poor record they where wrong about us for the past 2 years and they will be again this year :laugh2:
 

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they a titled to there own opinion just like you are

but remember the had us winning the SB last year

they now no better than we do

I mean if Eli an McNab go down where are they ? same with Romo

It really depends on injuries

but I think we at least split with them

I don't like making predictions - to many variables involved
 

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IMHO, this is why.

1. WR: Outside of the TO question, how many years running now and we still haven't seen a legit 2nd or 3rd WR step up?...All around the league teams with worse depth are seeing young guys step up at WR but Dallas seems to have no luck in that department...To make matters worse, they continue to try and squeeze out something outta nothing in players like Stanback & Hurd...Those experiments are over....Hurd remains with a shot perhaps but somewhere/somehow these players were not scouted well at all.

2. Draft: About time Jerry revamps the draft department...Outside a few of the higher picks, we're seeing less and less value being cultivated out of the later rounds (6 out of 12 picks on opening day roster)...In a draft where they had plenty of picks, never moving up looks to have cost them as they have been left with little to show for 11 or 12 picks this past season alone...You know it's been a bad draft when a reality show player will likely have more impact than the draft picks...Might be the first time in a lonnnnng time that they don't come away with an impact player for year one...Worst draft in some time perhaps?

3. Penalties: Nothing has changed in this department in years.

4. Special Teams: Great to get a proper kickoff specialist and McBriar back but we still haven't seen a legit punt or kick returner materialize...Then there's the coverage - this just looks worse than last season...Faith has nothing to do with it, there needs to be signs that a corner has been turned...And for anyone watching, there have only been signs that things are worse in that area.

5. Defense: Lack of late season pressure on the QB certainly factored into another December slide and little outside of Ware has been revealed during preseason...Is Spencer going to provide much in Ellis' absence?...He hasn't shown it consistently yet...That's a big question mark, will they be able to get to the QB and give the LBs and CBs some help?

6. December Slide: 1996...Last time the club has had a winning record at the end of the season, coincides with past success too...Coincidence?
 

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no upgrade on roster.
same coaching staff.
Poor draft class.
no depth on Oline, Linebackers, WRs and corners.
all teams in NFC east have improved with the acception of the Cowboys who have pretty much stayed the same team...Canty-Igor=push.. Zack Tomas - Brookings = improved but nit significantly .
I could go on but we all know this....
Dallas is counting on unproven or oft injured guys with lots of question marks.
one of the Offensive tackles goes out for the year and Cowboys are done.there Is no back up tackle that the boys have that I would trust (woud you?)..

Dallas has lots of ifs.

I do think they will surprise and I am not trying to be negative at all.
just trying to be objective
 
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