Oklahoma vs Kansas St game thread

[NickZepp]

and that number is (BIL) LSN-YDER...

I think Prince went undefeated against the Horns too.

I think Stoops has gotten stale and Oklahoma and it's probably long since been time for a chance. Hope we got 6-6 so we can finally start that change process and get someone in that can actually do the job at Oklahoma. I still love my Sooners but my expectations this year were extremely low because of how bad the coaching as been. It's like they don't even game plan or have schemes anymore.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't really think that Stoops has gotten stale, per say. I think that what we are seeing at OU, and really at Texas, over the last few years is the emergence of other programs in Texas. For years, talent in Texas either landed in Austin or Norman. Now, we see programs like TCU, Baylor, Tech, OSU and others getting talent that in past year they never really got. That impacts OU. The other thing I think we are seeing is the reliance Stoops' program has on quality QBs. Landry is OK but he is not superior with regards to OU's hurry up offensive approach. He is simply not as well suited to that style of offense as have been some of his predecessors. Texas is struggling with the same issue in that they missed on Gilbert. However, they are not as tied to QB success as is Stoops. I have believed for a very long time that if you could stop OU on first down, you could beat them consistently. It's because once that hurry up gets rolling, it limits your ability to change personnel groupings and it wears down your defense. If you stop them, you can beat them because then you have all options open to you on defense. It also means you are probably having success on offense because your seeing more opportunities to score.

Just my opinion.

 

[big dog cowboy]

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[Aikbach]

Both Stoops and Mack Brown are tremendous recruiters, assets for that alone, but they are seldom the best coached football teams. Both schools have skated by on pure talent and depth for many seasons.

 

[NickZepp]

OSU hasn't really recruited all that well in Texas. Their best players in Texas were like Bobby Reid and Dez Bryant, and a couple others a few years back that didn't really pan out. Blackmon wasn't recruited by anyone really, and Weeden was playing MLB. I think they were about middle of the road in recruiting in the conference the last few years. I'm not sure how good TCU's recruiting has been in recent years. OU and Texas have pretty much had top 5 top 10 national recruiting classes all of the last decade. OU's problems are the scheme on offense makes no sense with the talent on the field. And the defense is much the same. They have small LBs and small DLinemen trying to play like they are bigger at both. I think OU probably has the best DBs in college football right now and all of them will make good pros. LBs are all DB sized except slower. I think King is a pretty good DEnd. The rest of the linemen shouldn't be playing at an Oklahoma. But OU puts out a lot of 3 men line and a lot of nickel and dime formations that make no sense for the talent that OU has on the field because the front 7 is already too small.