OL should be the biggest Draft focus this Offseason !!!

[garyv]

The OL should be addressed early and often in the 2010 Draft. My feelings are Flozell Adams and Kozier could be backups and that would be fine by me but two starters on the OL out of this Draft are highly needed. I want to address the first OL in the 1st Round not later ......

 

[Bach]

Should've been one of the top priorities last year too. Good thing we got Robert Brewster with our second 3rd round pick.

 

[Doomsday101]

The OL should be addressed early and often in the 2010 Draft. My feelings are Flozell Adams and Kozier could be backups and that would be fine by me but two starters on the OL out of this Draft are highly needed. I want to address the first OL in the 1st Round not later ......

I hope we do get a good lineman or 2 in the draft I clearly would not reach for a lineman but if there is a good lineman at our 1 or 2 pick then I would get them. Main thing no team can do is put so much on 1 position that you reach for someone who you could get later in the draft. Dallas has done this before and it backfires everytime.

 

[Joe_Fan]

I agree that addressing our OL should be the main priority this offseason.

The problem is that we don't draft OL high and take on far, far too many projects in which we reach badly for.

This is what happens when we draft for depth rather than drafting for starters.

 

[garyv]

I had questions about Robert Brewster pick last year. We had him rated very high from Ball State. If you watched Ball State Games any...they get rid of the ball so quickly in their Offense how can you really rate the guy, when in the NFL he has to lock-up and maintain his blocks when their running the ball and even longer when Tony holds the ball. I just really wondered about taking a guy from ball state who uses a quick passing game and also who did he really ever play against? In my view the whole draft was bad except the Kickoff specialist which I always thought we needed.

 

[garyv]

Joe Fan your RIGHT !!! instead of drafting for Starters we draft for backups and that has to change. I would look at my Players along the OL and if Kozier or Adams are the weakest I Draft to replace them and make them the Backups. This is trully the way to improve your team. Why take Jason Williams in the 2nd Round when there are much better players available. He was nothing more than a 4th Rounder that we take 2 Rounds too early and lose a potential starter.

 

[Joe_Fan]

I had questions about Robert Brewster pick last year. We had him rated very high from Ball State. If you watched Ball State Games any...they get rid of the ball so quickly in their Offense how can you really rate the guy, when in the NFL he has to lock-up and maintain his blocks when their running the ball and even longer when Tony holds the ball. I just really wondered about taking a guy from ball state who uses a quick passing game and also who did he really ever play against? In my view the whole draft was bad except the Kickoff specialist which I always thought we needed.

That's just it. We reached for him and reached for him badly.

It's what worries me about us trying to solve our OL woes through the draft since we haven't truly had much success doing so with the exception of Adams and Gurode despite spending multiple draft picks on the OL.

 

[JBond]

Draft and FA. FA is the way to go to plug holes along with a mix of young kids from the draft. I have to admit, I am leery of the Dallas scouting department and their ability to properly evaluate OL talent based on their track record the last 10 years.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Draft and FA. FA is the way to go to plug holes along with a mix of young kids from the draft. I have to admit, I am leery of the Dallas scouting department and their ability to properly evaluate OL talent based on their track record the last 10 years.

The problem is due to the fact that we were in the final eight that we will be severely limited in the FA's in which we can pursue.

But you're absolutely correct. Ideally it should be addressed through the draft and FA. And as I mentioned in my prior posts I'm quite skeptical of doing so through the draft due to our recent track record of HUGE reaches.

 

[sonnyboy]

The problem is due to the fact that we were in the final eight that we will be severely limited in the FA's in which we can pursue.

But you're absolutely correct. Ideally it should be addressed through the draft and FA. And as I mentioned in my prior posts I'm quite skeptical of doing so through the draft due to our recent track record of HUGE reaches.

Got some feedback from ADAM on this. Since we're not in the final 4, we can actually sign one FA without restrictions on the $ amount. After that we come into restrictions.

 

[sonnyboy]

Draft and FA. FA is the way to go to plug holes along with a mix of young kids from the draft. I have to admit, I am leery of the Dallas scouting department and their ability to properly evaluate OL talent based on their track record the last 10 years.

That's why we need to go with volume. Had a few responses to a few threads yesterday on this.

We haver to consider the fact that we will be turning over our entire starting OL in just 3-4 years do to age.

I want to see at least 3 drafted OL this April and at least one significant OL FA signing.

Now of course you can't go reaching for OL. You want value and at best, BPA.
But that's why you trade up and or down to have the picks you want to make matchup with value.

Bottom line is we need to just focus on OL and focus effectively. Evaluate every prospect correctly and find the 30-40 guys we think best fit what we want.
You probably end up with 3-5 we like in each round. 1 through 7.

You often best served letting the draft come to you. We're not in that position. We need to proatice not reactive.

Get the guys you like in the right tiers, but do what you need to get three.

 

[MONT17]

Getting a new OLine would buy Romo fans more time/excuses! How long will it be b4 they are crying about the continuity of the new Olinemen... or calling out Houck!!


This approach is used by fans all over the NFL when protecting a fan favorite... the Skins fans used the 4 different offense excuse for years with Jason Campbell! The Ig fans used the No Wrs excuse with McNabb for decade... they are still waiting for a Super Bowl!!!!


Now its the Romo fans turn... ppl forget they used the Oline excuse last yr after the Iggs game but TO was made the scape goat and all was forgiven, WHY? bc that bought Romo fans time/excuses to defend Romo around the internet watercooler!


These fans cry about the OC and the only name they know to replace him is John Gruden... like he is going to be Wades OC! or some how Jerry will have Co-Head Coaches!



Unless you get Romo an ALL MADDEN TEAM, Raise some coaches from the dead ROMO FANS WILL FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND POOR SHOWING CRITICAL GAMES!

 

[Doomsday101]

Getting a new OLine would buy Romo fans more time/excuses! How long will it be b4 they are crying about the continuity of the new Olinemen... or calling out Houck!!


This approach is used by fans all over the NFL when protecting a fan favorite... the Skins fans used the 4 different offense excuse for years with Jason Campbell! The Ig fans used the No Wrs excuse with McNabb for decade... they are still waiting for a Super Bowl!!!!


Now its the Romo fans turn... ppl forget they used the Oline excuse last yr after the Iggs game but TO was made the scape goat and all was forgiven, WHY? bc that bought Romo fans time/excuses to defend Romo around the internet watercooler!


These fans cry about the OC and the only name they know to replace him is John Gruden... like he is going to be Wades OC! or some how Jerry will have Co-Head Coaches!



Unless you get Romo an ALL MADDEN TEAM, Raise some coaches from the dead ROMO FANS WILL FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND POOR SHOWING CRITICAL GAMES!

I'm not looking to make excuses for Romo. He is a damn fine QB hate to tell you but some other damn fine QB lost this past weekend as well. You talk of leadership yet you don't know what it is you are just talking out your backside like some little kid. Get a clue for a change

 

[sonnyboy]

Getting a new OLine would buy Romo fans more time/excuses! How long will it be b4 they are crying about the continuity of the new Olinemen... or calling out Houck!!


This approach is used by fans all over the NFL when protecting a fan favorite... the Skins fans used the 4 different offense excuse for years with Jason Campbell! The Ig fans used the No Wrs excuse with McNabb for decade... they are still waiting for a Super Bowl!!!!


Now its the Romo fans turn... ppl forget they used the Oline excuse last yr after the Iggs game but TO was made the scape goat and all was forgiven, WHY? bc that bought Romo fans time/excuses to defend Romo around the internet watercooler!


These fans cry about the OC and the only name they know to replace him is John Gruden... like he is going to be Wades OC! or some how Jerry will have Co-Head Coaches!



Unless you get Romo an ALL MADDEN TEAM, Raise some coaches from the dead ROMO FANS WILL FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND POOR SHOWING CRITICAL GAMES!

What are you talking about? Are you even reponing to this thread?

Don't you think we have serious issue on the OL with age?

How did Romo get into this?

 

[Alexander]

It should have been a bigger focus with twelve choices this past April. It would have been nice to have one or two more additional irons in the fire instead of just Brewster.

 

[sonnyboy]

Getting a new OLine would buy Romo fans more time/excuses! How long will it be b4 they are crying about the continuity of the new Olinemen... or calling out Houck!!


This approach is used by fans all over the NFL when protecting a fan favorite... the Skins fans used the 4 different offense excuse for years with Jason Campbell! The Ig fans used the No Wrs excuse with McNabb for decade... they are still waiting for a Super Bowl!!!!


Now its the Romo fans turn... ppl forget they used the Oline excuse last yr after the Iggs game but TO was made the scape goat and all was forgiven, WHY? bc that bought Romo fans time/excuses to defend Romo around the internet watercooler!


These fans cry about the OC and the only name they know to replace him is John Gruden... like he is going to be Wades OC! or some how Jerry will have Co-Head Coaches!



Unless you get Romo an ALL MADDEN TEAM, Raise some coaches from the dead ROMO FANS WILL FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND POOR SHOWING CRITICAL GAMES!

Do you know what the puck you're talking about? Because I don't.

Are you saying you want to replace Romo? That has to be the most assinine idea I've heard in some time.

Romo was not good yesterday. But he's the least of our concerns by far. He had an outstanding season by anyone's measure.

Our failings yesterday and for much of the season were rooted in the OL.

 

[Woods]

The more I think about addressing the OL, I would look to let a guy like M Holland or maybe McQ (as an example) walk and upgrade him via FA, if possible.

Then, I would look to the Draft to get another OL.

I would attempt to address the OL via both FA and the Draft to ensure not to reach in the Draft for a prospect.

Again, we'll first have to see if any guys who are decent are even available in FA.

 

[Alexander]

That's why we need to go with volume.

We had twelve choices last April to take this approach. We took one offensive lineman and a project at that. We were not even sure where exactly Brewster would end up even before he got hurt. It is just unfortnate now that we are still in the same boat we have been in for several seasons, except now whatever lineman we take had better be ready in a season or less. I doubt we have the luxury of taking projects anymore. For a team that does not draft OL well, we need to hit a home run soon.

 

[Woods]

We had twelve choices last April to take this approach. We took one offensive lineman and a project at that. We were not even sure where exactly Brewster would end up even before he got hurt. It is just unfortnate now that we are still in the same boat we have been in for several seasons, except now whatever lineman we take had better be ready in a season or less. I doubt we have the luxury of taking projects anymore. For a team that does not draft OL well, we need to hit a home run soon.

That's why I would advocate using a two prong approach, both FA and Draft.

I'm not saying we're going to get an all-pro LT in FA, but we may be able to get a decent interior lineman who is an upgrade over guys like Holland, McQ, and Kosier. Worst case we could get a proven upgrade over McQ and Holland and provide more competition for Kosier (along with Brewster perhaps).

I'd definitely use the draft as well. But I get nervous heading into the draft knowing that the allure of forcing the pick could be too strong and if the pick doesn't work out we could be screwed.

 

[The Realist]

I had questions about Robert Brewster pick last year. We had him rated very high from Ball State. If you watched Ball State Games any...they get rid of the ball so quickly in their Offense how can you really rate the guy, when in the NFL he has to lock-up and maintain his blocks when their running the ball and even longer when Tony holds the ball. I just really wondered about taking a guy from ball state who uses a quick passing game and also who did he really ever play against? In my view the whole draft was bad except the Kickoff specialist which I always thought we needed.

Guys named Lamarr Woodley, Larry English, Will Davis, Dan Bazuine.

Played Indiana twice and they put out and NFL DE the last couple years.

Played Nebraska...nuff said.

Played Purdue....they put out pass rushers galore.

If you start at OT for 4 years in the SEC you aren't going to face the same # of NFL quality pass rushers that Brewster did. I mean guys who get drafted.

What conference did Delmas play in? A lot of people would have loved him.

Who did Romo, Ware, Austin face?