Once again, NTs Matter

Rayman70

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For the most part, we are getting gashed on the edges, not up the middle.
it was equally bad yesterday. Edge has been a HUGE issue all year. We just aren't big enuff at edge and need to teach these dudes to CONTAIN! How many times we gonna sit here and watch our edge guys get washed? Its terrible.DQ bears some blame as well. If we gonna credit him when we win, we also need 2 place the blame on him. He also must be better. The defense is very thin btw. Injuries have decimated us. I think the Eagles will win fairly easy next week. Just 2 much firepower and we are 2 thin. But maybe in the playoffs we can do some damage.
 

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it was equally bad yesterday. Edge has been a HUGE issue all year. We just aren't big enuff at edge and need to teach these dudes to CONTAIN! How many times we gonna sit here and watch our edge guys get washed? Its terrible.DQ bears some blame as well. If we gonna credit him when we win, we also need 2 place the blame on him. He also must be better. The defense is very thin btw. Injuries have decimated us. I think the Eagles will win fairly easy next week. Just 2 much firepower and we are 2 thin. But maybe in the playoffs we can do some damage.

Well, we will need the Dline to play better, and DQ needs to fix some stuff. What he's been calling hasn't worked for a few weeks now.
 

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NT is not the issue with this defense. The issue is gap integrity and aggressive linebacker play. The second line of the Cowboys defense is incredibly passive. They don’t shoot gaps or try to beat the RB to the hole. They sit and wait and make drag down tackles. Very few teams have huge NTs and quite a few are playing better run D than the Cowboys.

and there you have it
Years and years of evidence but people still choose to try to appear to be smarter LOL
 

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LOL at some of you guys coming around to the reality that our DTs just aren't all that good.

But there's zero question that when Jerry and Stephen ham and egg it at DT again this offseason, you guys will go back to defending their roster building.
I don't know if it was more sad or funny, when there was a little group agreement that we had a top 5 DL. I will never understand how people are so bad at examining a position group.
 

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Frankly, for next year Osa should be back because he's young and cheap and is a decent situational guy. I'd seriously resign Hankins if he wants to still play.

After that, then it's gut the DT depth chart time. Gallimore is a total disappointment so you can do whatever you want with him. Watkins? LOL.
Watkins = traffic cone.
 

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I don't know if it was more sad or funny, when there was a little group agreement that we had a top 5 DL. I will never understand how people are so bad at examining a position group.

Its beyond absurd at this point. You have been advocating for a legit NT since at least 2012. I called our DT rotation bottom 5 before the season started. I don't know what it is going to take for this team to invest in the DT position.
 

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Its beyond absurd at this point. You have been advocating for a legit NT since at least 2012. I called our DT rotation bottom 5 before the season started. I don't know what it is going to take for this team to invest in the DT position.
Remember when people were proclaiming that Marcus Spears was good? Talk about the ultimate traffic cone!!!!!

That's what we like on the DLine, traffic cones and speed bumps.
 

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Remember when people were proclaiming that Marcus Spears was good? Talk about the ultimate traffic cone!!!!!

That's what we like on the DLine, traffic cones and speed bumps.

We just need some guys who can't be pushed around. Spears was a DE in college who became a 3-4 DT and it was never a good fit. That said, Spears would be our most talented DT on this defense.
 

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We just need some guys who can't be pushed around. Spears was a DE in college who became a 3-4 DT and it was never a good fit. That said, Spears would be our most talented DT on this defense.
Sadly, you're right. That is how talent-deprived this DL is.

Unfortunately, Jerry thinks like the casual fans on this site, who think a DT is good if he can just hold his spot. Crazy crapp.
 

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Sadly, you're right. That is how talent-deprived this DL is.

Unfortunately, Jerry thinks like the casual fans on this site, who think a DT is good if he can just hold his spot. Crazy crapp.

You know its bad when I'm pining for the days of Marcus spears. :lmao:
 

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Just before the season started, I started a thread highlighting the importance of a NT. A lot of people here tried to mock me and make me look like a dunce. Yes, they're not as important as a QB. However! We are seeing all season why NTs are critical. We can't stop the run! Teams are running the ball on us at will, which is putting our pass defence at a significant disadvantage. I think we put a dagger in our season when we got rid of Ridgeway. We lost a player that could swallow up blocks and help protect against the run. Then, we also lost Hankins to injury. Where we were strong defencively was we had Ridgeway and then Hankins helping to shut down the run, which then set our pass defence up to attack. That was why Parsons had success before, but is now struggling to get after the QB.

If we are going to have success, we MUST take NTs more seriously. We need to draft a NT within the first 3 rounds. That will help us shut the run down, and then our pass defence can pin their ears back. Until the Cowboys take NT more seriously, we are going to break down defencively every season because we will be unable to stop the run.
Theres no team in sports I hate more than the Eagles.. But the Cowboys front office needs to study how the Eagles have prioritized their Dline, with studs in the middle. The last time they drafted a DT in the 1st round was 1991... That year they drafted 2 DTs in the 1st....Russell Maryland with the #1 pick and Kelvin Pritchard with the 20th pick.
30 some years ago is a long time.
 

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Theres no team in sports I hate more than the Eagles.. But the Cowboys front office needs to study how the Eagles have prioritized their Dline, with studs in the middle. The last time they drafted a DT in the 1st round was 1991... That year they drafted 2 DTs in the 1st....Russell Maryland with the #1 pick and Kelvin Pritchard with the 20th pick.
30 some years ago is a long time.

For reference, I'll be turning 30 in about 10 days.
 
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