One last roll of the dice.

[BAZ]

So, I was thinking about Keith Brooking and how he may or may not be different to Zach Thomas for the Cowboys. You know, that whole "he's been a great player, lost a bit of speed, but his veteran leadership will really help this team mature" bull manure you hear about so many players.

Now going through my mental rolodex, I came up with a few players that didn't live up to that promise.

Zach Thomas- OK but not the player most hoped.

Eddie George- One of Parcells big mistakes

Peerless Price- Hard to remember him being on the team, really.

Tony Parrish- Did he play a down?

Then I move on to the in betweeners like Marco Rivera, that had more then one season but was never the "pro bowl player" signed.

And finally the ones that did pay off, not all time greats, but solid for a couple of seasons.

TO- cancer or no, still put up great numbers for someone his age.

Keyshawn- played his heart out while in big D, but getting older and never having top line speed will limit a reciever.

Terry Glenn- few good years, marred by a messy divorce.



Gentlemen, please enlighten me.

 

[ddh33]

Zach was a disappointment in a lot of ways. He seemed to wear down.

Eddie George was who I thought he was. He was done.

Peerless Price was a disappointment. I thought he had more left than that.

Tony Parris was also a disappointment. It wasn't like there were a bunch of stars in front of him. And I don't think he did another thing in the league.

The receivers you named were all good deals on one level or another. Whether you liked them or not, they all produced what was expected or more.

 

[wileedog]

So, I was thinking about Keith Brooking and how he may or may not be different to Zach Thomas for the Cowboys. .

The difference with Brooking is that he played in Wade's offense before, whereas Zach was coming into a new one, and he says he didn't fit in very well (alledgedly).

Actually I think the Brooking move is right out of the Parcells playbook - when you have guys that aren't getting it or having trouble with your system, bring some of your old guys back to help them out. Igor too. If reports are true Wade had to dumb it down mid-season, then these are guys who will help bring it back up to speed.

 

[dadymat]

So, I was thinking about Keith Brooking and how he may or may not be different to Zach Thomas for the Cowboys. You know, that whole "he's been a great player, lost a bit of speed, but his veteran leadership will really help this team mature" bull manure you hear about so many players.

Now going through my mental rolodex, I came up with a few players that didn't live up to that promise.

Zach Thomas- OK but not the player most hoped.

Eddie George- One of Parcells big mistakes

Peerless Price- Hard to remember him being on the team, really.

Tony Parrish- Did he play a down?

Then I move on to the in betweeners like Marco Rivera, that had more then one season but was never the "pro bowl player" signed.

And finally the ones that did pay off, not all time greats, but solid for a couple of seasons.

TO- cancer or no, still put up great numbers for someone his age.

Keyshawn- played his heart out while in big D, but getting older and never having top line speed will limit a reciever.

Terry Glenn- few good years, marred by a messy divorce.



Gentlemen, please enlighten me.

wasnt that a Jerry move?..or thats what i thought

 

[BAZ]

What players am I missing? Who did they pick up for free or next to nothing and the results please, not like Tank, more like Parrish.

Those at the time "ohhhh" and are now "uhhhh" face palm, type players.

 

[ZeroClub]

Aaron Glenn was a decent roll player for a while.

Wasn't Richie Anderson decent for a little while?

Vinny Testaverde would have been an o.k. backup.

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, and Jason Fabini. Nope.

 

[sonnyboy]

So, I was thinking about Keith Brooking and how he may or may not be different to Zach Thomas for the Cowboys. You know, that whole "he's been a great player, lost a bit of speed, but his veteran leadership will really help this team mature" bull manure you hear about so many players.

Now going through my mental rolodex, I came up with a few players that didn't live up to that promise.

Zach Thomas- OK but not the player most hoped.

Eddie George- One of Parcells big mistakes

Peerless Price- Hard to remember him being on the team, really.

Tony Parrish- Did he play a down?

Then I move on to the in betweeners like Marco Rivera, that had more then one season but was never the "pro bowl player" signed.

And finally the ones that did pay off, not all time greats, but solid for a couple of seasons.

TO- cancer or no, still put up great numbers for someone his age.

Keyshawn- played his heart out while in big D, but getting older and never having top line speed will limit a reciever.

Terry Glenn- few good years, marred by a messy divorce.



Gentlemen, please enlighten me.

Whoa there partner. Your just glossing over the Terry acquisition. That was a great move. One of our very best of the decade.

Not sure what your overall point is with this thread.

Is it that veteran FA acquisitions are hit or miss. Yes they are, but so are draft selections, so are trades.

In fact all player acquisitions of all types are hit or miss. Good teams just hit on more than they miss.

 

[ndanger]

Ryan Leaf

 

[21Savage]

Whoa there partner. Your just glossing over the Terry acquisition. That was a great move. One of our very best of the decade.

Not sure what your overall point is with this thread.

Is it that veteran FA acquisitions are hit or miss. Yes they are, but so are draft selections, so are trades.

In fact all player acquisitions of all types are hit or miss. Good teams just hit on more than they miss.

Exactly! Plus what did we get Glenn for? A 5th or something like that?

 

[CATCH17]

Aaron Glenn was a decent roll player for a while.

Wasn't Richie Anderson decent for a little while?

Vinny Testaverde would have been an o.k. backup.

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, and Jason Fabini. Nope.

Richie Anderson was our entire offense there for awhile.

 

[CF74]

Zach Thomas- OK but not the player most hoped.

Gentlemen, please enlighten me.

The biggest beneficiary of Zach Thomas being on the team one season was Brady James. Zach taught him how to get after it by example in practice, and his work ethic rubbed off on Brady. We reaped the benefits as fans with a new Brady James. Can Keith add the next dimension to BJ? What does he have to share? Vocal leadership, understanding of the position, and positive influence. May not sound like much but it might just be the final piece.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I actually don't expect much from Brooking. I think he'll be similar to Zach -- which is perfectly fine for as little as we're paying him.

One excellent and cheap FA signing recently was Ken Hamlin. People may hate the big deal he got later, but year before last we signed him for peanuts and he solidified a position we'd had problems with for years and even made the Pro Bowl.

IMO Dan Campbell was a great sign when Parcells got here. He was that old vet who brought a ton of toughness and professionalism to the team and really taught Witten a lot. I'm hoping Brooking will do that for the rookie ILB we draft.

And BTW, I think Igor will turn out to be a really good sign for what we paid him.

 

[ZeroClub]

Yeah, Dan Campbell was a great addition.

 

[Q_the_man]

The difference with Brooking is that he played in Wade's offense before

What position did he play on offense? :laugh1:

 

[BAZ]

Not sure what your overall point is with this thread.

To name those players that spent a season or two in Dallas and rate the impact they had.

 

[jobberone]

Nothing wrong with counting your pawns as the little steps do matter. But overall most of those guys are long shots who are brought in for little to nothing. The fact most don't make a big splash is not news but expected. Glenn was a very pleasant surprise. Zach played ok for a Mo.

The defense has not been the problem for this club. Overall they've played pretty well. The lack of big plays is most concerning.

The offense keeps failing this club and it's really loaded. It's only glaring weakness is OL depth.

 

[sonnyboy]

To name those players that spent a season or two in Dallas and rate the impact they had.

Sorry. Guess I misread you.

I thought this was just another we suck thread.

You know....We can't make good signings, we can't draft. Jerry sucks, Wade sucks, Garrett sucks, this team sucks, life in general sucks and god hates me.

But not more than he hates the Cowboys.

 

[jazzcat22]

As we fans scrutinize all these players we signed, and even including the draft [3 years later on drafts] were signed. Players we resigned or did not resign.

How did other teams do also. How many hit or misses did they have even just on FA's. Where do we rank [in opinion only obviously] compared to the rest of the NFL.

Before we think we are the worst [we know we aren't the best] we need to compare to some others.

I know it's off the subject of the thread. So thought I would still mention it, as opposed to starting a new thread.

 

[HardHittin'Witten]

Anthony Miller.

 

[ZeroClub]

Anthony Miller.

Oh yeah, nice memory.

And that reminds me of another WR: Ernie Mills.

Miller, Mills, neither amounted to much in Dallas.