One stat to end the Dak debate

[Hoofbite]

Seems more like happenstance. It's not like Brady, Manning, Brees, etc haven't been paid well. Their contract structures just happened to align with a SB winning season to make this "stat" true.

Means nothing.

 

[erod]

Super Bowl QB cap %


https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/af283d/percentage_of_salary_cap_taken_up_by_super_bowl/

We'll see how KC does when Mahomes takes up 85% of the cap.

 

[Corso]

So... is the debate over? This can all stop now?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Teams that signed their QB to a top 3 QB contract at the time of signing:

Seattle- made the playoffs last year
Philly-made playoffs
Green Bay-made playoffs
Minnesota- made playoffs
San Fran- made SB
New England- made playoffs
New Orleans too

 

[JoeKing]

Paying Dak big money will be the death knell for the next 4-5 years.

He's a $15-20 million per year QB. He's just a run-of-the-mill pro quarterback.

Thanks for playing. Next contestant, please...

 

[KJJ]

No team in NFL history has ever won a Super Bowl while paying their QB 13% or more of the salary cap.
Dak wants up to 20% of the cap.
It would be highly unlikely for Dallas to be the exception to this rule. Please move on, and start building a deep contender. Thank You.

That stat is worthless because QB salaries began to skyrocket only in the last few years. Pat Mahomes is a $40 million QB who just won a Super Bowl on his rookie deal. If he wins another Super Bowl he’ll be making more than 13% of the Chiefs salary cap. In the next 10 years you won’t find many if any teams winning the Super Bowl paying their QB 13% or less of the salary cap.

 

[HungryLion]

Teams that signed their QB to a top 3 QB contract at the time of signing:

Seattle- made the playoffs last year
Philly-made playoffs
Green Bay-made playoffs
Minnesota- made playoffs
San Fran- made SB
New England- made playoffs

Rodgers and cousins Weren’t?

 

[CATCH17]

Teams that signed their QB to a top 3 QB contract at the time of signing:

Seattle- made the playoffs last year
Philly-made playoffs
Green Bay-made playoffs
Minnesota- made playoffs
San Fran- made SB
New England- made playoffs

Made playoffs.. That is almost meaningless.

Especially now that almost half the teams in the league are going to make the playoffs.

Bragging about making the playoffs is about like a player bragging about making the Pro Bowl.

 

[CouchCoach]

There is no stat or force on earth that can stop the Dakbate.

 

[America's Cowboy]

No team in NFL history has ever won a Super Bowl while paying their QB 13% or more of the salary cap.
Dak wants up to 20% of the cap.
It would be highly unlikely for Dallas to be the exception to this rule. Please move on, and start building a deep contender. Thank You.

You're failing to determine how much of Dak's new contract will actually count towards this 2020 season or the following seasons and how much will be pushed forward to later years.

Your debate stinks.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Rodgers and cousins Weren’t?

At the time Rodgers signed, Matt Ryan had the largest contract at $30M per year with $100M guaranteed on a five year contract.

Rodgers then signed for $33.5M a year with $98.7M guaranteed on just a four year extension.

At the time Cousins signed Jimmy G had the highest contract paying $27.5M a year, Kirk signed a contract worth $28M a year fully guaranteed.

Hasn't stopped either team from building a contender.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Made playoffs.. That is almost meaningless.

Especially now that almost half the teams in the league are going to make the playoffs.

Bragging about making the playoffs is about like a player bragging about making the Pro Bowl.

Maybe you missed that one of them made the super bowl dumb asss, and only two teams make that. The year before? Same thing. The year before that? Same thing.

Do they need to win a game in the playoffs for it to mean anything? Alright Green Bay, San Fran, Minnestoa, and Seattle all won a playoff game too. 4 of the 6.

When only 25% of the league makes the playoffs, but 7 of those team teams had top 3 QB contracts that's a big deal. More than half. It almost seems like if your QB is good you can still build a good roster around a high paid QB.

 

[ESisback]

No team in NFL history has ever won a Super Bowl while paying their QB 13% or more of the salary cap.
Dak wants up to 20% of the cap.
It would be highly unlikely for Dallas to be the exception to this rule. Please move on, and start building a deep contender. Thank You.

What will 12% be? Would you figure one year, or length of the contract? That’s tough, because the cap this year is what, 125? 12% of that is what, about 14 or so? What will the cap be in 5 years? Either way, that’s a real head buster. But is there any chance of a new precedent being set?

 

[KJJ]

Since 2016 three QBs Brady, Foles and Mahomes have won Super Bowl’s. Brady was taking a discount. Foles was making backup QB money and Mahomes was on his rookie deal. With QB money continuing to skyrocket the only thing that will keep QBs from taking up a sizable percentage of their teams salary cap is the cap continuing to steadily rise. Teams have to be able to pay their QBs.

 

[CATCH17]

Maybe you missed that one of them made the super bowl dumb asss, and only two teams make that. The year before? Same thing. The year before that? Same thing.

Do they need to win a game in the playoffs for it to mean anything? Alright Green Bay, San Fran, Minnestoa, and Seattle all won a playoff game too. 4 of the 6.

When only 25% of the league makes the playoffs, but 7 of those team teams had top 3 QB contracts that's a big deal. More than half. It almost seems like if your QB is good you can still build a good roster around a high paid QB.

The conversation is about Super Bowl winners.

Don’t try to change the topic to fit your narrative and call people a *******.

I don’t think anyone cares about playoff participants or runner ups in a thread talking about Super Bowl Winners and their cap %....

 

[conner01]

normally i'd say his cap % would go way down by year 3 but what if the cap doesn't raise next year due to less overall revenue? How will all this pandemic stuff affect the next tv deal and will Dak be a FA at that time?

When does this tv deal expire
I know they had talked about opening it up next year with added games but not sure when it actually expires

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

The conversation is about Super Bowl winners.

Don’t try to change the topic to fit your narrative and call people a *******.

I don’t think anyone cares about playoff participants or runner ups in a thread talking about Super Bowl Winners and their cap %....

So you think the 49ers blew a 4rh quarter lead in the Super Bowl because Jimmy G took up a little more cap space?

If you can't catch on to the fact that you can still be competitive and win super bowls with a top paid QB, then that's on you.

 

[CATCH17]

So you think the 49ers blew a 4rh quarter lead in the Super Bowl because Jimmy G took up a little more cap space?

If you can't catch on to the fact that you can still be competitive and win super bowls with a top paid QB, then that's on you.

Jimmy G would’ve been an outlier.

We have a lot of Data to go off of.

But.. He didn’t win so no need to debate.. The rookie deal wins again.

 

[Flamma]

Are you sure?

Brady's cap hit in 2018 was 22 million. In order for that to be less than 13% the salary cap would have to have been 169 million.

At least that was his reported salary for that year, I cannot say this is conclusive but Brady earned over 220 million as a Patriot, difficult to believe that the cap hit was on the low end for all six of those Super Bowls.

We really can't use Brady or the Patriots as examples in regards to the norm. They defy all logic.

As of 2013 the highest percentage cap hit was Steve Young at 13.1%. Not sure if any player has beaten that since then but if they did, it wouldn't be by much, and we're probably talking hall of famers. No other team came even close before 2013.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Jimmy G would’ve been an outlier.

We have a lot of Data to go off of.

But.. He didn’t win so no need to debate.. The rookie deal wins again.

Yeah the rookie deal wins again like it has....... twice over the last decade lmao.

The other 8 of 10 had signed large extensions or free agent deals excluding a backup QB. You have all this data to go off of.