One thing about Garrett, I don't get impression he is "soft"

LarryCanadian

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,815
Reaction score
382
I'd be interested to see what personality he brings in the role of a head coach. Perhaps he doesn't want to rock the boat as a co-ordinator right now. I think he'd be harder than Phillips. These guys did not respond to Phillips style. He treated them like adults and they behaved like children (which a lot of these players are, no matter what age). In professional sports there are plenty of talented and tough young men that aren't that mature. Can't expect them to behave like life-experience 30 year olds. Big assumption.

From what I've seen of him (limited coverage of him in action, and he was quite quiet when I was at training camp), he doesn't seem like a pushover or touchy feely type though. He's academic, but intense.

I wonder if he was in charge if he'd have the nards to stand up and put his stamp on a team. This is more difficult often for younger coaches, as sometimes guys you are trying to mold and discipline and instill your wisdom into aren't more than 5-10 years younger than you! That isn't always easy.

Accountability is something even some players were asking for. We need at least some assistants to bring some fire and brimstone, and they need to have protection to bench guys, discipline guys, fine guys, call them out publically, etc etc, even get support of coach/owner to cut them if needed. Then players will respect them and toe the line in the system.

I actually think Garrett would be tougher than many might think, I'm a bit surprised he hasn't come out swinging a bit. He is getting murdered by media, fans, and players, and yet he's stoically taking it right now. Of course, I wouldn't blame him to jump ship and try it his own way if behind closed doors he doesn't like Phillips style/approach.

Will be interesting. I think Red has got a bit more fire in him than some think, even though I didn't love his playcalling much this year! 20/20 hindsight in many cases though, who knows what reality is (Romo improvising, WR's doing their own thing, not running routes and fighting for balls, oline not run blocking as well as they could etc).

LarryCanadian
 

Mansta54

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,945
Reaction score
482
I agree with you. I bet it kills JG to see how WP runs the team. As the OC, his hands are somewhat tied, its WP team. JG has played for one of the best in Jimmy and he knows that crap that WP allows shouldn't go on. I'd luv to see JG as HC, players would be accountable and much more disciplined and professional...
 

dbair1967

Arch Defender
Messages
30,782
Reaction score
1
Mansta54;2538425 said:
I agree with you. I bet it kills JG to see how WP runs the team. As the OC, his hands are somewhat tied, its WP team. JG has played for one of the best in Jimmy and he knows that crap that WP allows shouldn't go on. I'd luv to see JG as HC, players would be accountable and much more disciplined and professional...

I agree
 

Garland powerplay

Active Member
Messages
1,230
Reaction score
1
Its beating a dead horse. The decision was already made to retain the coaching staff. Its all speculation and what ifs now.
 

CowboyWay

If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State
Messages
4,445
Reaction score
554
I think he "overthinks" things and makes things more complicated than they are.

Lets be honest here, the job of the head coach is to oversee the other coaches and make decisions on gamedays. Just because you're a good coordinator doesn't mean you'll be a good HC, and vice versa.

But as a coordinator, I'm not impressed. I think Sporano was the genius behind our O, and I've seen him on the sidelines, clipboard in hand screaming at guys. Thats what I want out of a coach. Fire and Brimstone.

We are in a real quandry (spelling). Can't get rid of wade because Garrett was promised the job, and I don't think Jerry thinks Red is ready yet, so we need to put up with this dog and pony show for another year.

In an ideal world, Wade would be D coordinator, we'd get a better O coordinator, and a fiery head coach.
 

Garland powerplay

Active Member
Messages
1,230
Reaction score
1
Its a shame sparano got away. This team is suffering from the trickle down effect when Big Bill Parcells left similar to when Jimmy Johnson it left. It took a couple years for the wheels to fall off.
 

dbair1967

Arch Defender
Messages
30,782
Reaction score
1
Garland powerplay;2538448 said:
Its a shame sparano got away. .

If the Dolphins are 6-10 next yr, will you still be saying the same thing?
 

dbair1967

Arch Defender
Messages
30,782
Reaction score
1
Garland powerplay;2538458 said:
The fact is they are not . They went from 1-15 to what playoffs? nuff said......

fluke come to mind?

alot of you people had Sean Payton proclaimed as the next Tom Landry too after one season.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
You guys saw Hard Knocks. There was a big deal about how his brother John was dissed by Martellus Bennett when John got in his face. John isn't near the coach Jason is. Did Martellus develop?

We will regret it if he leaves.
 

links18

Well-Known Member
Messages
24,325
Reaction score
20,107
Mansta54;2538425 said:
I agree with you. I bet it kills JG to see how WP runs the team. As the OC, his hands are somewhat tied, its WP team. JG has played for one of the best in Jimmy and he knows that crap that WP allows shouldn't go on. I'd luv to see JG as HC, players would be accountable and much more disciplined and professional...

What's going on with your Mansta being so critical of Wade? I thought you said we would be "fine."? :eek::
 

Garland powerplay

Active Member
Messages
1,230
Reaction score
1
Its not a fluke when Parcells has rebuilt every football organization he 's been w/. Everything he touched turned to gold in football standards. Let the records speak for itself,
you know don't let the facts get in the way of opinions.:lmao2:
 

jeffm

New Member
Messages
34
Reaction score
0
I haven't seen JG show any fire on the sidelines, maybe because he is overshadowed by WP or maybe they are both overshdowed by Jerry "don't challenge my stars" Jones... who knows?
 

Ken

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,709
Reaction score
17,370
For as much faith as some have in JG, not sure why that wasn't reflected in the unit he was in charge of....
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
Garland powerplay;2538493 said:
Its not a fluke when Parcells has rebuilt every football organization he 's been w/. Everything he touched turned to gold in football standards. Let the records speak for itself,
you know don't let the facts get in the way of opinions.:lmao2:
0-2 in the post season. 34-32, 2 games over .500 for his 4 years here.

Records speaking for themselves.

Doesn't seem as :lmao2: anymore.
 

CanadianCowboysFan

Lightning Rod
Messages
25,373
Reaction score
8,148
dbair1967;2538463 said:
fluke come to mind?

alot of you people had Sean Payton proclaimed as the next Tom Landry too after one season.

What the dolphins did reminds me of our 2002 and 2003 season. Huge improvement but we all know what happened in 2004
 

LarryCanadian

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,815
Reaction score
382
That sort of worries me. Why didn't Garrett at least take control of the Offense.

The way I see the Coach is as the guy cussing, swearing, motivating, boosting and humbling egos, etc. I see the assistants as the guys doing X's and O's with the coach doing his input behind closed door meeting, setting the overall tone.

I was even uninspired by Parcells on the sideline the last go around. I thought the young team needed the Chucky/Cower coach that goes to bat ON them and goes to bat FOR them - but on the field, not in front of media at end of game going, "that one is on me". There is nothing wrong with calling a player out to media if put correctly. Saying Romo is better than that, or that IF TO wants the ball more, it would help if he went and got it or ran the "right" route on X occassion. That is OK.

That is just the style I like though. Landry certainly had a ton of success and he was regal and quiet on sideline. But then, players were terrified and ashamed if they blew it with Landry, they aren't that way with many coaches.

Big Red is not DUMB. He's shown that before. He might be stubborn or inexperienced or not getting through to his players, but I don't think DUMB would be accurate.

I wonder if Garrett was doing the "right" thing by not undermining the style of his headcoach, no matter whether he agrees or disagrees with it. If TO isn't getting put in line by Phillips and/or his QB, does Red really have much chance of changing it. Hell, NOBODY from owner to coach to other players called out TO for whining about not getting the ball, and sorry, but after that one game where 20 attempts (most of them legitimate) went his way and he didn't even play well, SOMEBODY should have said SOMETHING to go, you know what, take some responsibility on yourself. Get thrown to 20 times, then make 10 plays, 5 of which are superstar material!

I think Red is gonna be a good one. Wasn't a great year for him, no doubt, but he might be a changed man elsewhere.

LarryCanadian
 
Top