OPINION: Rivera hired, Red-OC and Singletary-DC...

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IF he interviews WELL after the SB, this is my gut feeling after reading this morning's headlines on the issue. Jerry knows in his heart Norv can't inspire and lead a team to a Super Bowl. If he could, he would'nt have had the record he did in Wash. If Rivera is solid in his interview he gets this job guys. Then he goes to his good buddy Mike Singletary and awards him the D-coordinator job. I have NO earthly clue why SF just hired Manusky and I don't care. Nolan probably has a relationship with him. Well, Rivera and Mike won a SB together and those ties bind. This scenario hasn't been discussed alot in here, but I think it will happen. Norv goes back to rejoin a very good staff and solid young team in SF-and gets a raise to boot. :D
 

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Singeltary is not going to come here to work under Rivera. Singletary is the rare coach who kind of needs to skip the whole coordinator thing because he's not a great X and 0 (and no, I don't mean hugs and kisses) guy.
 

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I wonder what Jerry *really* wants from Rivera.

I'm not so sure that Jerry wouldnt like most to get him as a DC to work under Norv.

Maybe Rivera will do that for at least a year for a significant pay increase cause it's not like theres any other HC jobs for him to get this year instead.

Or maybe he'll figure it's HC or bust and just re-up with the Bears as DC for another year if Jerry tells him he's not interested in him as an HC. Since he knows what he has with that defensive unit. Coming here and not having as much success right off the bat might hurt his chances for a HC gig somewhere else down the road.

That would be a interesting dilemma for Jerry cause I'm sure he likes the familiarity factor with Norv as well as what he'd bring in mentoring both Garrett and Romo. But I'm sure he most certainly wants to get the most out of his huge investment in defensive players also and he might not be comfortable with someone like Bowles being the guy to try and do that.

So what if Rivera says HC or no thanks?

Does Jerry just say: Ok fine... and then tell Norv maybe some other time?
 

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abersonc;1352955 said:
Singeltary is not going to come here to work under Rivera. Singletary is the rare coach who kind of needs to skip the whole coordinator thing because he's not a great X and 0 (and no, I don't mean hugs and kisses) guy.

I think Rivera will be like Bellichek in that he will be a head coach in title only but more or less a defensive coordinator caling the plays. Singletary will be there to teach and motivate. That's why I found it laughable that some fans thought the Patriots defense was suddenly going to fold when they lost Romeo Crennell. That's like saying the Broncos offense would falter with Kubiak gone. We all know head coaches that don't want to give up the playcalling duties and are very hands on. I know that Ken Whisenhunt is the head coach of the Cardinals but as explicitly stated that he will call the plays on offense. Chan Gailey was the same way here.
 

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DipChit;1352965 said:
I wonder what Jerry *really* wants from Rivera.

I'm not so sure that Jerry wouldnt like most to get him as a DC to work under Norv.

Maybe Rivera will do that for at least a year for a significant pay increase cause it's not like theres any other HC jobs for him to get this year instead.

Or maybe he'll figure it's HC or bust and just re-up with the Bears as DC for another year if Jerry tells him he's not interested in him as an HC. Since he knows what he has with that defensive unit. Coming here and not having as much success right off the bat might hurt his chances for a HC gig somewhere else down the road.

That would be a interesting dilemma for Jerry cause I'm sure he likes the familiarity factor with Norv as well as what he'd bring in mentoring both Garrett and Romo. But I'm sure he most certainly wants to get the most out of his huge investment in defensive players also and he might not be comfortable with someone like Bowles being the guy to try and do that.

So what if Rivera says HC or no thanks?

Does Jerry just say: Ok fine... and then tell Norv maybe some other time?

But the risk isn't worth it to Rivera. He is set where he is. He has great players on defense. The only reason he hasn't already gotten a head coaching job is because the Bears went all the way this year.

Dallas has talent on defense but not as much as Chicago. He could come here and not have as much as success as he did in Chicago. That would seriously hurt his chances as a head coach. If he stays in Chicago, it's almost a guarantee their defense will be impressive again next season. It's too risky for him to make a lateral move as a DC.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1352971 said:
I think Rivera will be like Bellichek in that he will be a head coach in title only but more or less a defensive coordinator caling the plays. Singletary will be there to teach and motivate. That's why I found it laughable that some fans thought the Patriots defense was suddenly going to fold when they lost Romeo Crennell. That's like saying the Broncos offense would falter with Kubiak gone. We all know head coaches that don't want to give up the playcalling duties and are very hands on. I know that Ken Whisenhunt is the head coach of the Cardinals but as explicitly stated that he will call the plays on offense. Chan Gailey was the same way here.

You think defensive minded HC's tend to call defensive plays/formations play in and play out? Not to say they dont but it's certainly not as "noticeable" if they do.

Now offensive minded ones..certainly.. you see that all the time.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1352984 said:
But the risk isn't worth it to Rivera. He is set where he is. He has great players on defense. The only reason he hasn't already gotten a head coaching job is because the Bears went all the way this year.

Dallas has talent on defense but not as much as Chicago. He could come here and not have as much as success as he did in Chicago. That would seriously hurt his chances as a head coach. If he stays in Chicago, it's almost a guarantee their defense will be impressive again next season. It's too risky for him to make a lateral move as a DC.

I agree. The only hope there would be if a significant pay raise would make the difference. And it likely wouldnt.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1352984 said:
But the risk isn't worth it to Rivera. He is set where he is. He has great players on defense. The only reason he hasn't already gotten a head coaching job is because the Bears went all the way this year.

Dallas has talent on defense but not as much as Chicago. He could come here and not have as much as success as he did in Chicago. That would seriously hurt his chances as a head coach. If he stays in Chicago, it's almost a guarantee their defense will be impressive again next season. It's too risky for him to make a lateral move as a DC.

Thats the way I feel on this, Rivera would have to be either stupid or a money grubber to come here to be defensive coordinator.

I can see it now "See ya Brian Urlacher, Alex Brown, Ogunleye, Mark Anderson, Lance Briggs, Nathan Vasher, Tommie Harris Im going to go down to Dallas to coach Demarcus Ware, Terrence Newman and uhh... Roy Williams...and....crap this is going to kill my career."
 

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abersonc;1352955 said:
Singeltary is not going to come here to work under Rivera. Singletary is the rare coach who kind of needs to skip the whole coordinator thing because he's not a great X and 0 (and no, I don't mean hugs and kisses) guy.
Its not that Singletary isn't a great Xs and Os guy, its that he hasn't been given the opportunity to be a defensive coordinator and prove he's that kind of guy. The same thing could be said of Jason Garrett.
 
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