Opinions please, on Felix

[BHendri5]

This is the 4th season for Felix and Choice. I keep hearing folks writing Choice off, as being cut or traded etc. Felix on the other hand according to a lot of people is all of a sudden supposedly to become this great Rb that we have been missing.

This is their 4th season. All of the other outstanding RBs that came out with Felix and Choice have cemented their spots in the starting roster as the number 1 back, either their rookie season or at least by their 3rd season, no matter how good the RB was that was there when they got drafted.

Felix is good, but I cannot see him as anything but a third down change up RB, I also see Demarco as the same type of RB. Both get injured easily. Felix has had ample opportunity to secure that number one spot these past 3yrs, now that Barber is gone he is at the top, it is his to loose.

Choice on the other hand has not hand the opportunity that was given to Felix. He showed as a rookie that he could do the job, while MB3 and Felix were standing on the sideline injured. Choice did this against the top 5 defenses.

Now people want to see Arian Foster in Lonyae Miller, wrtie Choice off as a bum now.

I say Choice will not be trade and he will become the number one Rb, on the roster one way or another, if he is given a legit shot.

If it is as some think, that Garrett does not like him, then he will do it on another team, and we will find ourselves in the next draft looking for a legit RB.

 

[CowboyStar88]

This is the 4th season for Felix and Choice. I keep hearing folks writing Choice off, as being cut or traded etc. Felix on the other hand according to a lot of people is all of a sudden supposedly to become this great Rb that we have been missing.

This is their 4th season. All of the other outstanding RBs that came out with Felix and Choice have cemented their spots in the starting roster as the number 1 back, either their rookie season or at least by their 3rd season, no matter how good the RB was that was there when they got drafted.

Felix is good, but I cannot see him as anything but a third down change up RB, I also see Demarco as the same type of RB. Both get injured easily. Felix has had ample opportunity to secure that number one spot these past 3yrs, now that Barber is gone he is at the top, it is his to loose.

Choice on the other hand has not hand the opportunity that was given to Felix. He showed as a rookie that he could do the job, while MB3 and Felix were standing on the sideline injured. Choice did this against the top 5 defenses.

Now people want to see Arian Foster in Lonyae Miller, wrtie Choice off as a bum now.

I say Choice will not be trade and he will become the number one Rb, on the roster one way or another, if he is given a legit shot.

If it is as some think, that Garrett does not like him, then he will do it on another team, and we will find ourselves in the next draft looking for a legit RB.

Well first of all Felix came into a system where they wanted to use multiple backs however I don't believe that system works, and I do believe you will see Garrett going with more of a 1 punch with another back spelling the starter and being the 3rd down back. He also had to play behind Barber who was just not getting it done, and when it counted the most in Dec of 09 and the playoffs we relied on Felix he got it done then. Also once Garrett took over as coach last year he started this movement with Felix making him the primary back which he did a great job at and showed he was able to be a work horse helping this team go 5-3 under Garrett. Felix has never been a "3rd down change of pace back" Is he fast? yes but he can also carry the Rock inside as well. He is a home run hitter and the more times you put the ball in his hands the more times he will take it to the house. If he is a 3rd down back he will not get those chances they will be fewer and fewer. They did not waste a first rd pick on a 3rd down back.

As far as Choice goes I believe you are really overrating him and the" if he doesn't do it here he will do it on another team" stuff. I believe the FANS of Choice overrate his talents by a long shot. I do not believe he will step into another team and instantly be a starter and a STAR like others believe. He played against 2 solid teams and didn't break 100.00 yards. He hasn't made many big plays and isn't a threat to take it to the house. Teams don't game plan to stop choice they game plan to stop felix. Also just and FYI Felix is only 24 where Choice is 26.

We don't know for sure how Garrett feels about Choice, but one could make a claim Garrett does not like him and there for you have to ask yourself why? He has suspect hands, suspect speed, and is an OK blocker, and does not like to play special teams. That has been pointed out in the media by the GM/Owner. He also has shown a me attitude and not a team attitude with his remarks about playing time which you never hear from Felix or any other players on the team when someone is the media says something about Choice he gets on Twitter and fires back. I mean really? I don't think Garrett wants to worry about players like that also it was mentioned he did not attend the player workouts and I am sure that doesn't sit well with Garrett either. So I said in another post if I am starting a team and had a choice between Felix and Choice I am building a team around Felix. He is a class act a true professional a team player and an amazing human being doing things for charity all the time he has speed, vision, good hands he can block and he can play special teams.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Why can't you see Felix as an every down back?

 

[UnoDallas]

Why can't you see Felix as an every down back?

hold it if Choice is so Choice why is not he starting ??????

thats always had me puzzled also - Felix has never had the chance to be starter

I say give him 15 runs and 5 passes a game

Choice played fine his rookie year againest some good teams but let me ask you this

who would you rather beat you a third RB or Romo ?

so who so do you think the D's where focusing on ?

I will go thru it one more time maybe I should I copy this stuff
Seahawks not a top 5 D 11 carries for 57 yds
Steeler 23 carries for 88 yards
Ravens 17 carries for 90 yards
NYGs 9 Carries for 91 yards
Philly 13 Carries for 57 yards

he did not break a 100 yards once

08- 472 yards
09 - 349 yards
10 - 243 yards

 

[BHendri5]

hold it if Choice is so Choice why is not he starting ??????

thats always had me puzzled also - Felix has never had the chance to be starter

I say give him 15 runs and 5 passes a game

Choice played fine his rookie year againest some good teams but let me ask you this

who would you rather beat you a third RB or Romo ?

so who so do you think the D's where focusing on ?

I will go thru it one more time maybe I should I copy this stuff
Seahawks not a top 5 D 11 carries for 57 yds
Steeler 23 carries for 88 yards
Ravens 17 carries for 90 yards
NYGs 9 Carries for 91 yards
Philly 13 Carries for 57 yards

he did not break a 100 yards once

08- 472 yards
09 - 349 yards
10 - 243 yards

I did not say he broke a hundred yards, but he did a heck of a lot better than felix would have done, and would do if he was given the opportunities they have been giving the so called class act felix

 

[sureletsrace]

I did not say he broke a hundred yards, but he did a heck of a lot better than felix would have done, and would do if he was given the opportunities they have been giving the so called class act felix

Okay now you're just being a troll.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I saw a lot of really good play in Felix when Kitna was QB. It didn't really have to do with Kitna per say. But, because Kitna was slower into the pocket, we started using more swing passes towards Felix. Plus, I don't think swing passes and screens are exactly Romo's specialty. Although I think Felix just needed to get more in-game experience with them. By the end of the year he was becoming very smooth at it and very effective.

As a runner, I thought he really toughened up. He started to play hurt. No, he wasn't breaking tackles like a Jim Brown highlight film, but he was breaking some. I find this 'he goes down on first contact like Julius Jones did' to be more self loathing Cowboys fan (or fan of hating Jerry Jones) hyperbole. Also, I found that he started to understand running in the NFL some more. He was getting better at grinding out that 2 yard gain instead of trying to bounce out of it and losing yards. Generally he wasn't awful at that to begin with, but he was better.

His stats were quite good, behind an O-Line that wasn't good and was banged up and with Kitna at QB.

I don't get the Choice luv after last season. He was, more or less, not good last season. And he is still a suspect blitz pickup guy.

And the Vick autograph fiasco does bother me and I honestly believe that there are teammates of Choice's who were not happy about it. I don't think Garrett was either. If anything, it symbolizes a guy who is immature and doesn't think things thru.

Y'know, I'd get by that if he was really producing out there...but he isn't.






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[rathalarge]

Felix has the ability to take it "to the house" on any play, and combine that with 800 yards rushing last year in limited starts, why can he not be the lead back?

 

[dmq]

Felix averaged 4 yds a carry behind an awful OL. He is a really good back. Not seeing that he is a 1 down back.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Barber was released because Felix Jones is ready to tale the #1 spot. The stats back that up too. I'd call that cementing a spot.

Choice's stats per attemp are conversely mediocre and he can't block blitzes. Again the stats prove it. He has been given a chance with all the Barber injuries. Felix Jones took advantage of them; Choice complained through the media as he was doing nothing with his.

Choice better get it together quick or he will soon cut himself; that is, if Dallas can't trade him first. And why is that? Because there are other RBs on the roster who can do what Choice can't as a backup, and that's play special teams.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This is the 4th season for Felix and Choice. I keep hearing folks writing Choice off, as being cut or traded etc. Felix on the other hand according to a lot of people is all of a sudden supposedly to become this great Rb that we have been missing.

This is their 4th season. All of the other outstanding RBs that came out with Felix and Choice have cemented their spots in the starting roster as the number 1 back, either their rookie season or at least by their 3rd season, no matter how good the RB was that was there when they got drafted.

Felix is good, but I cannot see him as anything but a third down change up RB, I also see Demarco as the same type of RB. Both get injured easily. Felix has had ample opportunity to secure that number one spot these past 3yrs, now that Barber is gone he is at the top, it is his to loose.

Choice on the other hand has not hand the opportunity that was given to Felix. He showed as a rookie that he could do the job, while MB3 and Felix were standing on the sideline injured. Choice did this against the top 5 defenses.

Now people want to see Arian Foster in Lonyae Miller, wrtie Choice off as a bum now.

I say Choice will not be trade and he will become the number one Rb, on the roster one way or another, if he is given a legit shot.

If it is as some think, that Garrett does not like him, then he will do it on another team, and we will find ourselves in the next draft looking for a legit RB.

Felix hasn't been the lead back for 7 years now. not in pros. not in college. probably his last time was in high school. its time to realize he is what he is. very valuable. can give you carries, but will never be a top 10 or 15 back in the league. very dangerous though, who can score from anywhere on the field, but will never be able to be the sole back on a team or be the top dog.

choice is limited. he is not overly big, so he can't be a power back. he is not overly fast, so he is not a change of pace back. he has one of the worst stats in the league in yards after contact, so it means he gets tackled easily.

he is also a big liability in pass protection, one of the primary under rated skills of RBs in the NFL. his ceiling is very limited. his use in games is limited.

that's probably why we drafted Murray (besides other reasons). but I expect Murray and Jones to eventually be the one two punch. If Miller continues as he has done, wouldn't surprise me to see Choice cut. Miller is got the big size that can help in short yardage. he also has more speed than barber. he doesn't mind playing special teams, like choice does.

choice had some good games running. but like I said, the rest of his game is lacking. he is not a bum. he is what he is. average RB. will never be a front line starter in this league, with limited upside and limited game.

it was very interesting to hear Witten, who is often quiet mention that miller hasn't missed a blitz pick up this year. haven't heard him say that about anybody else.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Felix has the ability to take it "to the house" on any play, and combine that with 800 yards rushing last year in limited starts, why can he not be the lead back?

he has never done it in 7 years. he was capable of that, at some point, you think he would have already done it. but I don't mind having him, and his 800 yards and some nice long runs along the way. nothing wrong with that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Barber was released because Felix Jones is ready to tale the #1 spot. The stats back that up too. I'd call that cementing a spot.

Choice's stats per attemp are conversely mediocre and he can't block blitzes. Again the stats prove it. He has been given a chance with all the Barber injuries. Felix Jones took advantage of them; Choice complained through the media as he was doing nothing with his.

Choice better get it together quick or he will soon cut himself; that is, if Dallas can't trade him first. And why is that? Because there are other RBs on the roster who can do what Choice can't as a backup, and that's play special teams.

good analysis. one more thing. barber was making too much money and that was another nail in his coffin

 

[jobberone]

Felix is good for 10-15 snaps a game and has game breaking ability. He's also a threat in the passing game. His talents fit the offense well.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think Felix is a very good RB best one on the team and will see ample carries. I have no doubt he can handle 17 to 18 carries a game.

 

[superonyx]

he has never done it in 7 years. he was capable of that, at some point, you think he would have already done it. but I don't mind having him, and his 800 yards and some nice long runs along the way. nothing wrong with that.

Surely you can see the weakness in your own argument. But i will play along anyway. Tony Romo went to a division 1aa college. If he would have went to a school with a QB in front of him that had the college career comparable to Darren McFadden do you think Romo would have been the guy? Matt Cassell wasnt the guy since highschool. Tom Brady didnt light the world on fire at Michigan. Wasnt he sitting behind Drew Henson?

Its not a very strong argument to just say that Felix isnt good enough because he has shared carries. Look at his production in college. Look at his production in the NFL. When you have a guy who has managed to put the an Average Per Carry number he has for the last 7 years in a row, you should see why he deserves to be the guy.

2005 6.3 YPC
2006 7.6 YPC
2007 8.7 YPC
2008 8.9 YPC
2009 5.9 YPC
2010 4.3 YPC


Not to shabby? Surely deserves the playing time he will get this season.

 

[DFWJC]

I would consider him as a flex option or a RB3 or RB4 in a 12 team fantasy league.

Seriously though, if he can stay healthy and get adequate carries, he will produce, imo. If he gets 210-220 carries, I think he gets his 1000 yards rushing....and there is upside from there.

 

[Shuttemdown41]

I coulda sworn Felix was entering his 3rd season here.

Edit: just checked...it is indeed his 4th coming up...wow...time sure has flown by.

 

[Hostile]

I think Choice has a bit of an attitude that makes him vulnerable as well as his lack of consistency in blitz pickup. When you throw in the fact that he has not contributed in Special Teams it makes you wonder if he could be traded or let go.

I will not be at all shocked if the RB corps ends up being Felix, Murray, and Lonyae Miller, even though Miller doesn't fit the description yet of the 3rd RB working on Special Teams either.

 

[Doomsday101]

I coulda sworn Felix was entering his 3rd season here.

This will be his 4th, it will be his 1st as the primary back. He took over that roll over the last 8 games and did very well.