OrangeBlood/Sooners To Apply To PAC12

[ABQCOWBOY]

Sources Say OU Ready To Apply To PAC12
Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

September 12, 2011

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

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[Dallas]

It is unfortunate that things have gotten this bad w/ the Big12.

I wonder what Texas is going to do once Oklahoma and OSU do in fact go somewhere else.

I hate that we could lose the RRR.

Texas better get things together and figure out what it wants to do. I hope if OU/OSU goes then Texas follows real soon.

It will be the Pac16 once all of the dust settles.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It is unfortunate that things have gotten this bad w/ the Big12.

I wonder what Texas is going to do once Oklahoma and OSU do in fact go somewhere else.

I hate that we could lose the RRR.

Texas better get things together and figure out what it wants to do. I hope if OU/OSU goes then Texas follows real soon.

It will be the Pac16 once all of the dust settles.

I don't know. The PAC12 has said that they are not currently interested in expanding. I suspect that this is Conference speak for brink Texas with you OU. I don't know for sure how serious that statement is but I do agree with you. This thing has gone way far down a terrible path.

I think Texas is going to end up being an Independent.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Larry Scott against expanding Pac-12

Updated: September 10, 2011, 4:55 PM ET
ESPN.com news services

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has said the conference is not actively seeking new members, despite all the talk of schools wanting to move.

In fact, if it were up to him, Scott would keep the conference just the way it is.

Speaking to reporters before Friday night's game between Arizona State and No. 21 Missouri, Scott said he would prefer to make the 12-team model work instead of trying to expand it to 16.

"Our hope is that there is no expansions and all conferences that are at 12 stay at 12. That would be our vote," he said. "We're very happy where we're at and we've got a lot to do over the next year."

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[hookemhorns72]

It is unfortunate that things have gotten this bad w/ the Big12.

I wonder what Texas is going to do once Oklahoma and OSU do in fact go somewhere else.

I hate that we could lose the RRR.

Texas better get things together and figure out what it wants to do. I hope if OU/OSU goes then Texas follows real soon.

It will be the Pac16 once all of the dust settles.

Reports last week had Texas and Notra Dame going to the Big 10. The Big 10 was going to allow the LHN through 2014 and then it would have to morph into some shared Big 10 network. The Big 10 was also going to allow Texas and ND flexibility to schedule non conference games throughout the season. Not just non conference at the beginning of the season. I don't want to lose the Texas/OU game! When it was the Big 8 and SWC they still scheduled the RRR!

 

[StylisticS]

I don't know. The PAC12 has said that they are not currently interested in expanding. I suspect that this is Conference speak for brink Texas with you OU. I don't know for sure how serious that statement is but I do agree with you. This thing has gone way far down a terrible path.

I think Texas is going to end up being an Independent.

And that's a disaster in my mind if Texas is headed into a world of superconferences. They will find it hard to field a schedule because other teams will play their intraconference schedules which will be around 9 or 10 games a year. They will probably play one or maybe two patsies to offset there intraconference schedule. Why would they need to add Texas when they have a hard schedule within their conference already and where will the other sports play?

 

[hookemhorns72]

Larry Scott against expanding Pac-12

Updated: September 10, 2011, 4:55 PM ET
ESPN.com news services

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has said the conference is not actively seeking new members, despite all the talk of schools wanting to move.

In fact, if it were up to him, Scott would keep the conference just the way it is.






If OU and Texas come knocking, Larry Scott WILL answer!

 

[Dallas]

I don't know. The PAC12 has said that they are not currently interested in expanding. I suspect that this is Conference speak for brink Texas with you OU. I don't know for sure how serious that statement is but I do agree with you. This thing has gone way far down a terrible path.

I think Texas is going to end up being an Independent.

It doesn't matter what the Pac12 commis wants. It's what the schools want. If Oklahoma knew it wouldn't get accepted, it wouldnt consider applying.

I also higly doubt Texas will go Independent. From what I read, that is the last option Texas wants to consider.

Mainly because of the 300million dollar empty network in the room.

 

[StylisticS]

I think Larry Scott was spewing hot air. He doesn't want to be the reason why the Big 12 dissolves. But if A&M leaves, Scott is on a plane to the South Central US.

 

[Dallas]

I think Larry Scott was spewing hot air. He doesn't want to be the reason why the Big 12 dissolves. But if A&M leaves, Scott is on a plane to the South Central US.

That's how I see it. I think if OU/OSU leave then Texas comes right on their heels.

I don't know who else would come to give them 16. That will be interesting to see.


I am HOPING beyond HOPE that Oklahoma and Texas stay together. It's just the right thing to do.

 

[StylisticS]

If Texas does not go with OU to the Pac 12, I think the Pac 12 looks to Mizzou and KU. If either Mizzou heads to the SEC or Big 10 and/or KU heads to the Big East, it will be interesting to see what the Pac 12 does. Do they stay at 14 and leave two spots open? Because if OU and OSU does indeed go to the Pac 12, there is nobody else west of the Mississippi that the Pac 12 wants other than UT to get to 16.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

To be honest, I don't really think it would be a problem for Texas on the Scheduling if they decided to go Independent. They already have a deal in place with ESPN on the Network deal. What I believe would happen is that ESPN would encourage powerhouse teams to schedule Texas and incent them by offering a whole lot of money for those teams that would buy in. A kind of pay per view type scenario. Imagine Texas scheduling SEC teams and OU and USC and Ohio State and ND and LSU and Michigan on any given year. That might prove to be a powerful incentive.

As for the PAC12, well, I don't honestly know what is real and what is not but I know that if given the chance to join the PAC12 or the Big 10, Texas would be headed for the Big 10 IMO. Their AD would pick the Big 10 over any other conference because of the amount of money the Big 10 gets from the Federal Government for Scientific Study. That amount dwarfs what any of those schools make from Football, as I understand it. I see Texas as much more willing to go to the Big 10 and play the likes of OSU, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame (if they come along) and the rest of the Big 10 teams while still reserving the right to schedule OU for the RRR game. Or, maybe the RRR goes away and you end up seeing Texas play OU in the Rose Bowl or USC if they are able to win the Big 10. That would also be very attractive. I see a lot more reasons for Texas to go to the Big 10 then the PAC12.

Of course, I would simply like to see them all stay in the same conference. Heck, merge the Mountain West and The Big 12 and lets call it whatever the heck anybody wants to and play football. Maybe pick up BYU, reacquire TCU and lets get it done. That would be a heck of a conference with TCU, BYU, Boise State, from the MWC and let Missouri and Iowa State go and just keep the rest from the Big 12. Maybe move TCU into the Eastern Division.

That would give you:

West - Colorado St., Wyoming, San Diego St., Boise St., UNLV, AFA, UNM and BYU

East - Baylor, Kansas, OKSt., KSt., Tech, TCU, OU and Texas

That would be a very powerful Conference for all three major sports. It will never happen but I wouldn't mind this at all. That, to me, would be the most logical thing to do.

 

[StylisticS]

Of course, I would simply like to see them all stay in the same conference. Heck, merge the Mountain West and The Big 12 and lets call it whatever the heck anybody wants to and play football. Maybe pick up BYU, reacquire TCU and lets get it done. That would be a heck of a conference with TCU, BYU, Boise State, from the MWC and let Missouri and Iowa State go and just keep the rest from the Big 12. Maybe move TCU into the Eastern Division.

That would give you:

West - Colorado St., Wyoming, San Diego St., Boise St., UNLV, AFA, UNM and BYU

East - Baylor, Kansas, OKSt., KSt., Tech, TCU, OU and Texas

That would be a very powerful Conference for all three major sports. It will never happen but I wouldn't mind this at all. That, to me, would be the most logical thing to do.

I can see the cringing from the shaggybevo posters over this proposed conference now.

 

[DFWJC]

Of course, I would simply like to see them all stay in the same conference. Heck, merge the Mountain West and The Big 12 and lets call it whatever the heck anybody wants to and play football. Maybe pick up BYU, reacquire TCU and lets get it done. That would be a heck of a conference with TCU, BYU, Boise State, from the MWC and let Missouri and Iowa State go and just keep the rest from the Big 12. Maybe move TCU into the Eastern Division.

That would give you:

West - Colorado St., Wyoming, San Diego St., Boise St., UNLV, AFA, UNM and BYU

East - Baylor, Kansas, OKSt., KSt., Tech, TCU, OU and Texas

That would be a strong Eastern division and a weak Western division for all three major sports. It will never happen but I wouldn't mind this at all. That, to me, would be the most logical thing to do.

Hi ABQ


Thought I would fix that for you.

 

[StylisticS]

To be honest, I don't really think it would be a problem for Texas on the Scheduling if they decided to go Independent. They already have a deal in place with ESPN on the Network deal. What I believe would happen is that ESPN would encourage powerhouse teams to schedule Texas and incent them by offering a whole lot of money for those teams that would buy in. A kind of pay per view type scenario. Imagine Texas scheduling SEC teams and OU and USC and Ohio State and ND and LSU and Michigan on any given year. That might prove to be a powerful incentive.

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Wanted to initially address this as well. If those other programs tell Texas they cannot schedule them and ESPN has to encourage them to play Texas and offer them money to do so, wouldn't one look at that as ESPN is running the Texas program now? Surely those big programs and the conference they are in will not agree to having their team play on the LHN unless the LHN becomes a national network on all providers.

 

[Dallas]

Wanted to initially address this as well. If those other programs tell Texas they cannot schedule them and ESPN has to encourage them to play Texas and offer them money to do so, wouldn't one look at that as ESPN is running the Texas program now? Surely those big programs and the conference they are in will not agree to having their team play on the LHN unless the LHN becomes a national network on all providers.

Having to pay a team to play Texas on the LHN. I kinda like the sound of that.

Surely the suits didn't think they would have to really resort to that when the LHN was first tossed out there.

It's pretty damn expensive all by itself atm. You know...w/ no games on it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I can see the cringing from the shaggybevo posters over this proposed conference now.

Well, I'm sure you are correct and I am equally certain that this will likely never happen but if you are really interested in keeping the Big 12 together, this is the best possible scenario IMO. I know that the Mountain West Conference is on the cusp of getting a BCS deal and prior to Utah pulling out, they all but had it done with the introduction of Boise St. I know that they would be more then willing. It would be a 16 Team Super Conference. I mean, unless you joing the SEC, anybody conference you join is going to be in the same position.

Be that as it may, it will never happen.

 

[The30YardSlant]

What's poor little Baylor gonna do now?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hi ABQ


Thought I would fix that for you.

:laugh2:

Actually, I think that the West would be plenty strong with Boise St., BYU and the Air Force Academy. They all have pretty good football programs. Boise can play with any program in the country. Not as strong as the East but that's what you get if you want to keep those schools together. If you wanted to, you could keep TCU in the West and send UNM to the East. Would be pretty hard for about 10 years but eventually, they would be able to field a team.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Wanted to initially address this as well. If those other programs tell Texas they cannot schedule them and ESPN has to encourage them to play Texas and offer them money to do so, wouldn't one look at that as ESPN is running the Texas program now? Surely those big programs and the conference they are in will not agree to having their team play on the LHN unless the LHN becomes a national network on all providers.

No, not necessarily. All the schools care about is that they get paid well to be on TV. If it's a big game, they simply get picked up by National Syndication. That means that it gets broadcasted on LHN and ESPN or ABC or whatever. Texas doesn't want a schedule that has all of those schools on the schedule each and every year. Maybe what you have is OU every year, maybe another Big Time School and then you could play the other independents, currently Army, Navy, BYU and Notre Dame. You could target another SEC school and maybe a California School for recruiting purposes or maybe you use it as a recruiting tool and you promise a high priority recruite to play a game in his home state so that his family and friends can come watch. The rest you fill out with Texas schools. You pick up games with Houston and Baylor and UTEP, SMU. There are ways to get this done.