OT: Ladanian Tomlinson's records--worthless w/visor!,

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Its worth mentioning that Casey Martin, after all the PGA whining, legal action, and resistance, turned out to be a below average golfer. With all the 'benefits' that would have allegedly given him an advantage over other golfers. Lesson of the story is: a visor might stop your opponent from reading your eyes, they still wouldn't make you a good athlete.
 

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smarta5150;1250316 said:
We'll see if playing w. the leading scorer in the NBA validates your argument.

Well.......we're going to have to wait a month for that.
 

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I use a reflective visor in semi-pro ( it would be illegal in the nfl, but i dont/never will play in the nfl so oh well) the one that looks crome almost and reflects everything.

It IS an advantage, but I wouldnt say it's 30+ td advantage. The dudes been great before he had his visor even
 

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Muhast;1250332 said:
I use a reflective visor in semi-pro ( it would be illegal in the nfl, but i dont/never will play in the nfl so oh well) the one that looks crome almost and reflects everything.

It IS an advantage, but I wouldnt say it's 30+ td advantage. The dudes been great before he had his visor even

I think that visior is the sweetest.

A lot of college kids use the reflective one.. more so the image of badass rather than an edge.

I am sure its a little but like you said... not 30+ TDs.
 

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stag hunter;1250148 said:
If he didnt have one, do you really think guys would be tackling LT in the open field more easily? The game moves so fast that no one is able to react fast enough to where someones eyes are directed that it would give them any real advantage in tackling him. It's true that you can tell the ball is about to be caught when a receivers eyes widen, but how many deep routes is LT running where he's catching the ball over the shoulder that that would make any difference? This is one of the dumbest, least thought out posts I've read before

This says it all.... Post of the Day :hammer:
 

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Wow, I come back 2 hours later to see an open can of worms. :) Well at least I didn't come up with that theory. I'd be burnt toast by now from all of the flaming. :lmao:
 

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put it this way....if ladanian told them where he was going to run before the play even happened, they still wouldnt stop him
 

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willis31;1250376 said:
put it this way....if ladanian told them where he was going to run before the play even happened, they still wouldnt stop him
Here we go...:lmao:
 

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Boy, this is a stretch. I've heard of reading the QB's eyes but never the running back's. The game simply moves too fast once he gets the ball. Who has time for detecting eye movement?
 

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bbgun;1250387 said:
Boy, this is a stretch. I've heard of reading the QB's eyes but never the running back's. The game simply moves too fast once he gets the ball. Who has time for detecting eye movement?
Truedat. But when you are in the zone, some things seem to be in slow motion. It is hard to explain...fellow football players know what I'm talkin about.
 

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Ozzu;1250061 said:
Eh, don't buy it. I just think he's by far the best player in the NFL right now and there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do to stop him. To say that his visor is somehow playing a part in it, no. Like I said, I just don't buy it.
i guess you've never played football outside of your backyard b?c if you have you'd know it gives u a great advantage
 

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on defense one of the first things your taught is to watch players eyes and body language especially pre-snap watch to see where their looking if their leaning and so on a definate advantage in my opinion
 

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nicodywill;1250411 said:
on defense one of the first things your taught is to watch players eyes and body language especially pre-snap watch to see where their looking if their leaning and so on a definate advantage in my opinion

Its true.

A basic fundamental.
 

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It's hard to ignore this idea entirely. It certainly seems like an advantage. I mean, imagine if a quarterback wore one (is there one in the league that does this?) to where the defense couldn't see where he was looking to throw the ball.

It's gotta provide some sort of advantage.

With that said, if it were as easy as just needing a visor, we'd be seeing every running back wearing one.

Hasn't Tomlinson played in games without one, out of curiousity? Has he gone this entire season with one? It'd be interesting to see how he does in games without one, though I doubt it'll prove all that much.

In the end, I don't see how this tarnishes anything he's done. Unless he's breaking a rule, how can you fault what he's doing? Unless he's being given some individual privilege to where this thing, then it's every other back's fault (IMO) for not being as crafty.
 

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Dale;1250440 said:
It's hard to ignore this idea entirely. It certainly seems like an advantage. I mean, imagine if a quarterback wore one (is there one in the league that does this?) to where the defense couldn't see where he was looking to throw the ball.

It's gotta provide some sort of advantage.

With that said, if it were as easy as just needing a visor, we'd be seeing every running back wearing one.

Hasn't Tomlinson played in games without one, out of curiousity? Has he gone this entire season with one? It'd be interesting to see how he does in games without one, though I doubt it'll prove all that much.

In the end, I don't see how this tarnishes anything he's done. Unless he's breaking a rule, how can you fault what he's doing? Unless he's being given some individual privilege to where this thing, then it's every other back's fault (IMO) for not being as crafty.

He has been medically cleared.

So he is kind of priveledged.

I belive if 1 player can wear 1 they all should be given the option.
 

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Dale;1250440 said:
It's hard to ignore this idea entirely. It certainly seems like an advantage. I mean, imagine if a quarterback wore one (is there one in the league that does this?) to where the defense couldn't see where he was looking to throw the ball.

Actually Jim McMahon wore a tinted face shield during his brief stint at QB with the Chargers...
 

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smarta5150;1250443 said:
He has been medically cleared.

So he is kind of priveledged.

I belive if 1 player can wear 1 they all should be given the option.

Ah, I didn't bother to read the part of the article that may have explained this. Thanks for the clarification, smarta.

And I do agree. It's a little unfair to provide this advantage for just one guy. I honestly was unaware of this.

Are there not other backs that wear tinted facemasks? Again, I'm coming off ignornant here since I didn't read the article in its entirety, but I'm assuming his situation requires a tinted facemask and not a clear one? Interesting stuff.

At the least, an enlightening article. Brings up an issue I'm assuming a lot of people -- at least myself -- would have never even thought about.
 
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