OT_ Pac-10 responds to replay rukus

[Danny White]

I saw the replays of the whole thing.

I can't help but think that those officials flat-out are corrupt and had an agenda.

I don't see how they could have possibly got that wrong, especially after the replay.

Like Hos, I like the Pac-10, but my gosh, that was bad. Their integrity certainly should be questioned.

I'm from Oregon, and although my favorite team is the Sooners, I have a definite soft spot for the Ducks.

But this game, and my U of O friends reactions to it afterwards, have given me a bitter feeling. The fact that my Duck friends defend the call makes me wish for nothing but bad things for Oregon from here on out.

I still blame the coaches and players for a large part of that comeback. They didn't convert touchdowns from inside the 5 yard line late in the game that would have iced it. They went too soft in the last three minutes defensively, they kicked a kickoff out of bounds giving Oregon better field position, they botched the clock management in the final 46 seconds when they got a miracle return to put them in field goal position.

BUT THE FACT REMAINS, despite all this mismanagement, THE GAME WAS OVER. Oklahoma recovered the onsides kick. And yet corrupt officiating took over the game. It's a real shame. I'm still too mad to even think about it. I'm outta here. :bang2:

 

[ComicBookGuy]

I'd feel much worse for OU if they hadn't missed a game winning FG. They got hosed definetely, but they had a chance to win so I find myself not caring that much.

That crew doesn't deserve to officiate again, though. Not only was it touched prior to the 10 yards by Oregon, but OU recovered the dang ball. Oregon never had possession of the ball.

 

[aikemirv]

Just another reason why they need to go to a playoff system in college football.

And one of the main reason I really do not get into college football that much

 

[ghst187]

The NCAA has to get more involved...
So let's say hypothetically Oregon goes on, wins out, and goes to the BCS title game and win....and OU wins every other game but gets locked out of the title game because of the Oregon "loss"?
The NCAA says "sorry" but that just doesn't cut it when the kids leave their hearts and guts out on the field. Oregon was a tough team and its ALWAYS tough to win there so to even be in the position OU was in took a dogfight.
An apology doesn't cut it. If it was even one bad call then you could somewhat excuse it. But it was about 3-4 back to back to back that were so blatant and obvious Ray Charles could've made the correct call. And whomever said the head ref was rude and seemed to have a vendetta against Stoops or something was right. I saw Stoops talking to him, TALKING not yelling or cussing or anything, and the ref snubbed him and gave him smarta** "tell it to the hand" replies. Then he marches out to the middle of the field and awards Oregon the ball like he had his mind made up already. Then, the replay on the PI call. Stoops just pointed at the jumbotron because all 59k fans could tell on that replay the ball was tipped at the LOS. Once again, you could tell Stoops got a "go to hell" reply from the official. You could read Stoops' lips going "you've got to be kidding me?"
Sorry, an apology for that theft doesn't cut it.
The NCAA has to make this right.
anyone on here that doesn't have me on their ignore list knows that I've been griping about instant replay at the college and pro levels ever since they reinstituted it. Its a necessary evil and I understand and support that. BUT THIS KIND OF GAME IS EXACTLY WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE IT AND EXACTLY THE REASON FOR IT, SO THEY DON'T MAKE THE WRONG CALLS THE COST TEAMS THE GAME! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FIX THESE KIND OF "HOMECOOKING" JOBS! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO ENSURE THE CORRECT CALLS ARE MADE.
I swear that instant replay should be reviewed because it sure seems like instant replay results in reversing good field calls and upholding bad ones more often than it actually benefits the game by making the right call. It happens over and over again in both pro and college. Its absurd.

First off, anyone involved in the officiating replay of that Oregon-OU game should be suspended without pay and thoroughly investigated. If found to be guilty of homecooking they must be fired immediately and never reinstated. If they are found to just be negligent, they should be suspended the rest of the year without pay.
Think about it, if a player were point-shaving in a championship game or guilty of some other infraction during a championship game, the NCAA would take their title away....would they not? This is the same if the officials were homecooking. If it was negligence, then they are obviously just too incompetent to officiate.
Secondly, the NCAA should overturn the outcome. Nothing else is justice. If they don't overturn the call then what is the harm if an official in the future refs his team's most critical game and makes the one bad call that saves the game for his team? He may get suspended but his team may still go on and win the championship. If those officials that did this game get suspended for a game but OU turns out to be Oregon's toughest game, then what do they care? Then there is no real penalty for their behavior. They are actually rewarded and future tampering could be encouraged....if the worst anyone gets is a one-game suspension and the outcome still stands. The same argument would apply if an official just wanted to cook a game because he had money on it, or someone influential that he knew.
Thirdly, Oregon staff should come out and admit the obvious. It would be the right and classy thing to do. Anyone there with any class didn't even want to win under such circumstances. I sure wouldn't have wanted OU to win that way. I'd prefer them to lose if that's how they had to win. Honestly.

Just like when I first got riled about this rob-job...honestly, I really am not upset that my old school lost. I am upset that the NCAA could allow this to happen time and time again, refuse to do anything more than say "sorry", and that the instant replay system has not fixed anything it was suppposed to fix, in many cases, its made things worse. This latest example is just another chapter in a recurring problem both at the pro and college level. The system needs fixed.

Would anyone here even want the Washington Commanders to lose in such a fashion? I wouldn't. I'd prefer to see them thoroughly whipped. We all know Gibbs is going to whine regardless and send in the tapes but I prefer him to look like a fool over and over for doing so rather than have any justifiable reason.
Anyone that can tolerate such behavior (whether homecooking or incompetence) by those officials entrusted for ensuring justice, equality, and fairness (who are also equipped with instant replay) is NOT a true sports fan.

 

[Crown Royal]

FYI - Joe Gibbs sent a tape into the NCAA regarding the officials in this game.

 

[BigDFan5]

I would just like an explanation from the ref how he awarded the kick to Oregon without ever seeing the ball.

 

[jay cee]

I would just like an explanation from the ref how he awarded the kick to Oregon without ever seeing the ball.

exactly right.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

I would just like an explanation from the ref how he awarded the kick to Oregon without ever seeing the ball.

exactly..

 

[Chief]

By William McCall
Associated Press Writer

PORTLAND, ORE. — The instant replay official whose failure to overturn a bad call led to a narrow Oregon victory over Oklahoma said Monday he feels like he is under siege after threatening phone calls, including a death threat.

Gordon Riese said he would make a decision soon about whether to finish the season, or even whether to return next year.

“I’m struggling with it,” Riese said in an interview at his home. “I feel so bad I missed that call, it’s driving me crazy.”

A former college baseball pitcher in the 1960s who was inducted into the Portland State Hall of Fame in 1997, Riese said he never played football but always enjoyed the game during 28 years as a Pacific-10 Conference official.

“I loved it, I absolutely loved it,” Riese said. But that was before he became an instant replay official. “I’ve felt much, much more pressure as an instant replay official than I ever did on the field,” Riese said.

He said the equipment is not as sophisticated as NFL replay equipment, and does not allow the official to freeze the frame. But Riese lays the blame on himself after replays showed that an onside kick was touched by an Oregon player before it had traveled the required 10 yards. The Ducks went on to score the go-ahead touchdown.

“I can’t sleep, I can’t eat, my blood pressure is skyrocketing,” Riese said, looking haggard and worn as he sat on the front porch of his house.

His wife is a registered nurse, and has been checking his blood pressure every four hours, he said.

Riese said he has stopped answering the phone, and police are investigating the threatening calls while keeping an eye on his neighborhood.

“They not only threatened me, they threatened my wife and kids,” Riese said.

Riese has endured plenty of physical pain in his career. The physical injuries still bother him, occasionally, but not as much as his ruling from the booth last Saturday, Riese said.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I hate OU and couldnt have enjoyed it more.

I've honestly never seen a team get screwed over as bad as that and nobody deserves to lose like that. But since its OU I can definetely live with it.

I love seeing certain teams lose, but I would never wish that on any team.

Why play the game, why compete at all if the refs are capable of that ?

 

[Danny White]

By William McCall
Associated Press Writer

PORTLAND, ORE. — The instant replay official whose failure to overturn a bad call led to a narrow Oregon victory over Oklahoma said Monday he feels like he is under siege after threatening phone calls, including a death threat.

Gordon Riese said he would make a decision soon about whether to finish the season, or even whether to return next year.

“I’m struggling with it,” Riese said in an interview at his home. “I feel so bad I missed that call, it’s driving me crazy.”

A former college baseball pitcher in the 1960s who was inducted into the Portland State Hall of Fame in 1997, Riese said he never played football but always enjoyed the game during 28 years as a Pacific-10 Conference official.

“I loved it, I absolutely loved it,” Riese said. But that was before he became an instant replay official. “I’ve felt much, much more pressure as an instant replay official than I ever did on the field,” Riese said.

He said the equipment is not as sophisticated as NFL replay equipment, and does not allow the official to freeze the frame. But Riese lays the blame on himself after replays showed that an onside kick was touched by an Oregon player before it had traveled the required 10 yards. The Ducks went on to score the go-ahead touchdown.

“I can’t sleep, I can’t eat, my blood pressure is skyrocketing,” Riese said, looking haggard and worn as he sat on the front porch of his house.

His wife is a registered nurse, and has been checking his blood pressure every four hours, he said.

He should use his Phil Knight-payoff money and take a relaxing vacation somewhere tropical.

Jerk.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

by the way, the instant replay guy who blew that call lives in OREGON.

un. freaking. believable.

i still think the NCAA needs to be held accountable.. they hand out fines and suspensions and strike games from the record like crazy if it is a TEAM that screws up.. why can't they do the same thing if the NCAA screws up?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He should use his Phil Knight-payoff money and take a relaxing vacation somewhere tropical.

Jerk.

:laugh2:

I just wonder why he now says he made such a bad mistake? Why didn't he see the ball being touched in the first place?

 

[jay cee]

Thanks for posting that article Chief. He may not be a bad guy, but that was a terrible call. And OU should not have to suffer for his error.

After that game Saturday, I was thinking to myself that I hope OU loses another game this year.

Can you imagine how they would feel if they win out the rest of the year and not have a chance at the national championship game because of something like this.

 

[Danny White]

Thanks for posting that article Chief. He may not be a bad guy, but that was a terrible call. And OU should not have to suffer for his error.

After that game Saturday, I was thinking to myself that I hope OU loses another game this year.

Can you imagine how the would feel if they win out the rest of the year and not have a chance at the national championship game because of something like this.

To the contrary... I don't want this to be swept under the carpet. I want everyone to have to justify themselves at the end of the season if this is our only "loss."

 

[jay cee]

To the contrary... I don't want this to be swept under the carpet. I want everyone to have to justify themselves at the end of the season if this is our only "loss."

Yeah, you are right DW, another loss.. er check that.. I mean a loss by the Sooners would allow the NCAA to sweep this travesty under the carpet.

I was only thinking of the players, and how terrible they would feel. But it is actually bigger than that.

And I must admit that I am not a Sooner fan, I am just a sports fan, and I would not even be able to celebrate teams that I truly hate losing in that fashion.

 

[BigDFan5]

Hmmm the ref is thinking about retiring after a game in which it appears he was paid off, or had a large bet riding on the game? Nothing suspicious about that

 

[jordan20]

I would just like an explanation from the ref how he awarded the kick to Oregon without ever seeing the ball.

You make a great point. I listened to the animal in okc this morning and they are hammering the replay official(which he deserves it) but the other officials need to be hammered as much or even more because the Ducks NEVER had the ball.

 

[jordan20]

by the way, the instant replay guy who blew that call lives in OREGON.

un. freaking. believable.

i still think the NCAA needs to be held accountable.. they hand out fines and suspensions and strike games from the record like crazy if it is a TEAM that screws up.. why can't they do the same thing if the NCAA screws up?

On the sports animal radio station in okc, they said he lives in Portland and got paid $400 dollars for the replay job. He also said he was so sick because he knew he blew it right away. He said he could barely drive home after the game. Another excuse that was said by this guy was he didn't get all of the replays ABC got. A guy then called in and said he sets up the replay booths at stadiums and said that was not true. They get all the replays and some.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

OU really got "jobbed" by the refs in this game

While they did get jobbed on that call, it wasn't the refs who had an absolutely dreadful defense.

When you put yourself in a position to have a game decided by the officials, you'll get screwed occasionally. Basketball is the finest example of this.

If OU could have made a single defensive stand, we wouldn't even be talking about this.