Our 3-4 Defense?

[TtownCowboy]

Is our philosophy on defense of bend don't break a product of our head coach or the D-Coordinator? Just curious about some thoughts out there.

 

[SBChamps]

BP supposedly.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Is our philosophy on defense of bend don't break a product of our head coach or the D-Coordinator? Just curious about some thoughts out there.

Our schemes are not blitzer friendly

 

[Cbz40]

Our schemes are not blitzer friendly

Our defense philosophy, scheme, blitz packages all inhale profusely.

 

[vicjagger]

I'd say BP.

 

[joseephuss]

Our schemes are not blitzer friendly

I think it is more the people running the blitzes.

Charles Haley made running blitzes and stunts easy. Sure he was a good pass rusher, but it is more than that. He was fantastic at crashing into the interior of the line, taking the offensive tackle with him and allowing the defensive tackle to stunt around. Or he could open up blitz lanes for linebackers and safeties with his rush. There is no one on the team that can do that.

Also, the interior lineman aren't doing anything to open up lanes for blitzers. It seems like the just create a pile up instead of creating space.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

When we ran the 4-3 we complained about the lack of pass rush and scheme...and figured a 3-4 would create a more attacking aggressive defense...including yours truely...I'm so disappointed at our approach it's not even funny. We HAVE the players to get it done...NO excuses.............NONE!

Until coaches allow this team to do what we can...we will continue to be an "ENGAGE and REACT" defense.

You can talk about 4-3, 3-4, 4-6, 10-1...I don't care what alignment we run...until the philosophy changes to attack we will not use our strengths of this team.

Ware was right when he compared our defense to Merriman and the Chargers...we do not attack like they do...BP is full of crap when he discounted Ware's comments!

 

[blindzebra]

The problem is two fold:

1. Parcells wants to line up and beat you, nothing fancy, nothing risky.

2. We are young in a lot of spots and most of the defense is learning a new scheme, so that will lead to mistakes...which flows right back to number one.

With Parcells we will never be as aggressive as most would like, and because of the mistakes being aggressive with so many young players would bring, we will really not see it.

I suspect we will gradually do more as the season goes along, but if you expect a Blitzburgh or SD like defense you will have to wait for a new head coach.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm pretty sure it's both guys. The philosophy isn't too bad. They DO blitz and yesterday they blitzed quite a bit.

However, the disguise of the blitz is atrocious. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to chart the Zona game, so I'm going to go through in detail every blitz the defense runs.

Here's the thing, Dallas' blitzes have been subpar ever since Zimmer has been a D-Coordinator here. They've blamed the players, the scheme, etc. Those things have changed and for the better. Then they blamed the offense not being able to move the ball and turning the ball over. That's now changed. Yet, the pass rush and quality of blitzing is the same.

I think the biggest thing I notice is that opposing teams seemingly never miss an assignment against our pass rush. Obviously opposing teams are paid not to make mistakes, but your defense should get a few of those missed blocking assignments here and there. We haven't gotten one. And I don't think we are just unlucky either.


YAKUZA

 

[Wolfpack]

I watched the Charger/Browns game and the Colts/Pats game Sunday after the Dallas game. 3 of those 4 are 3-4 base sets and it was much different than watching the dallas 3-4. I think we play something closer to Dungy's scheme than any of the 3-4's listed above.

The Pats defense was in motion all game trying to keep Manning busy watching them, alot of fake blitzes. Really enjoyed watching that chess match.

Back to Dallas, I dont mind the "my guys are bigger and stronger than yours" scheme, but I hate the fact that we are so predictable...both in coverages and blitzes.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

I have recently come to a conclusion that Mike Zimmer is a horrible defensive coordinator and needs to be replaced at the end of the season. Mike Singletary anybody? Throw some names out there we need somebody who can run this 3-4 defense and dont tell me we dont have the talent to run it becaue the only position we truely lack talent on defense is at Free Safety. Watkins might become a good Free Safety, who knows but so far this year he has been exposed at times.

 

[Jimz31]

Well, like I said yesterday....I am officially on the GROZ bandwagon. In fact, I'm gonna have to put something in my sig line about it.

 

[Wolfpack]

Well, like I said yesterday....I am officially on the GROZ bandwagon. In fact, I'm gonna have to put something in my sig line about it.

Me too now..but I have a feeling a fair amount of this is on Bill.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They've blamed the players, the scheme, etc. Those things have changed and for the better.

has it really changed though? SPears and Canty are average, at best, at gaining a push in the pass-rush, Ellis is off coming on the corner, AKin and Bradie are nothing special, Ferg is great, but he doesn't collapse the pocket as good as Jamal WIlliams, Ware is raw, and double-teamed and schemed against

for me, it's both the coaching and the players, we're too vanilla, but that also hinges on the players, remember Ferg saying that they aren't trusted to execute their responsibilities in the base? they do well against the run in the base, but pass-rushing is still bad there, and BIll has voiced that concern on at least 3 occasions, so if they aren't executing well enough in the base, how should we expect them to do so when they stunt? much less the coaches? maybe the coaches should throw caution to the wind and hope confusion, instead of execution, will get the better of the opponent? idk

and our players are nothing special in the nickel either, the talent is there, it just hasn't come together, and that I put more blame on the players than the coaches, coaching can't help you beat your man, maybe it's in-experience, maybe it's being uncomfortable w/ the 3-4, maybe it's lack of cohesion, maybe it's lack of a singular prescence in the lockerroom to kick everyone in gear, idk

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Spears is above average in my opinion.

 

[wileedog]

I think the biggest thing I notice is that opposing teams seemingly never miss an assignment against our pass rush.

YAKUZA

Hey, you can't say never.

I do remember the 2nd Redkins game in 2004 when Roy came on a blitz and crushed Ramsey. He ran through the line untouched.

But then again, that's the last one I remember.

*edit* Oh yeah, and Newman blitzed McNabb in the first Philly game last year. He got there unscathed. And Fujita in the KC game causing the fumble, although that was Larry johnson whiffing on the block. Now I'm officially out of memories

 

[DipChit]

Well it is pretty freaky. I mean deciding not to blitz much at all is purely philosophical. But the isses when we do blitz and never having guys come free is weird.

How can it just be that the design is so poor that the coach(es) must be clueless? Do they not see what happens when there own guy gets drilled on those? Do they not see it happen on tv in other games?

It's a copy cat league right? Just do what they do.

But then again you could try and copy cat the Colts offense too and not really get anywhere with that. I wonder why?

 

[Cbz40]

Well it is pretty freaky. I mean deciding not to blitz much at all is purely philosophical. But the isses when we do blitz and never having guys come free is weird.

How can it just be that the design is so poor that the coach(es) must be clueless? Do they not see what happens when there own guy gets drilled on those? Do they not see it happen on tv in other games?

It's a copy cat league right? Just do what they do.

But then again you could try and copy cat the Colts offense too and not really get anywhere with that. I wonder why?

Sir, If I am reading you correctly.....you are saying we simply do not have the defensive talent to pull off a blitz that actually gets to the QB?

If true ...then again we have been sold a bill of goods.