Our biggest positional needs - in order of need

[AMERICAS_FAN]

IMHO we needs to fix the oline before any else:

LT - As long as Flo comes back we are fine
LG - LA is in decline but should be able to play just fine
C - I don't think either Al or Gurode is the answer
RG - I hope Rivera was just hurting but we could use a good rookie to groom
RT - Biggest need on the team....we need to either draft one in the first round or sign a vet.....Rob concentrate on learning to play RT or as a swing T

We need a serious youth injection in to the line. After that we need a real FS, Lber's and a kicker.

Peterman is the real unknown here. He saw no playing time this year because he's the backup at LG and Larry Allen played well enough to keep Peterman off the field. What if Allen had gone down? We have no idea how good or bad Peterman would have filled in if we needed him to.

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[JPM]

IMHO we needs to fix the oline before any else:

LT - As long as Flo comes back we are fine
LG - LA is in decline but should be able to play just fine
C - I don't think either Al or Gurode is the answer
RG - I hope Rivera was just hurting but we could use a good rookie to groom
RT - Biggest need on the team....we need to either draft one in the first round or sign a vet.....Rob concentrate on learning to play RT or as a swing T

We need a serious youth injection in to the line. After that we need a real FS, Lber's and a kicker.

Excellent analysis and observations. I agree on all your points. I also don't want to reach in the 1st round and pick a need, I'd like to take the best player available.

 

[Jon88]

I think we should bring back Quincy Carter. Sure, he threw at the recievers' feet and could only comprehend 1/4 of the playbook, but he could run away with 3 or 4 defenders in his face every play. With the offensive line these days in Dallas, that's exactly the quarterback we need.

 

[alancdc]

Holcomb? What did he play like 3 games? He couldn't even beat out Losman? Do you not think Drew is as good as Brunell, Dehlome? He made a bad decision against Seattle, but carried us in quite a few games this year. He proved if given the time he can still be an effective player.

 

[Jon88]

Why is Dat Nguyen retiring again? Tired of getting banged up from being undersized?

I completely missed this somehow.

 

[Alexander]

he is projected to go in the top 10.

I'll bet you he doesn't.

If we want Huff, he will more than likely be there for us.

 

[DBoys]

I'll bet you he doesn't.

If we want Huff, he will more than likely be there for us.

You think Huff is the right pick or should we get someone else?

 

[Clove]

Our biggest needs in order are:

MLB - With Dat Nguwin retiring, we have NO legitimate starter here. Because of that, this is our biggest need. We have other LB's that are good for quality-depth, however, none are starter-qulaity.

RT - Pettiti needed a TE to help him block for the first 7 games. Once Flo went down Pettiti was left on his own moreso. His productivity plummeted as a result, indicationg he's no more than a backup-qulaity RT. Over time he may develop into the starting role, but for now, we have a void at the starting RT position. Depth can be filled by Torin Tucker who plays better when asked to fill in on the right side.

K - Obviously we need a new kicker. We have no true starters on the roster right now.

FS - Keith Davis is a hitter and will be kept because of that and for his special teams play. His cover-2 skills are lacking, however. With time, he can potentially develop those skills, but he's not there yet. Keeping him as the starter would not be that horrible, however an upgrade to a true coverage-FS would improve the secondary and allow Roy Willimas to do what he does best: play close to the LOS in run support.

C - Al Johnson wore down as the season went on. If he bulks up he can potentially grow into the full-time starters' role. Until then, Gurode offers a bigger body and a good change-of-pace. Moving Gurode to a RG position (to compete with Rivera) and bringing in a center to push Johnson for the starting job would be a wise experiment to undertake.

LT - With Flo coming back as the starter, we mainly have a void for depth at the position. Torin Tucker does not back up the LT position nearly as well as he does RT. Moving Tucker back to backing-up RT - as he further develops - would be a good move. However this leaves a void at the LT-backup position.

Your thoughts???

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I would throw an OLB in that mix too. And Burnett is not what we need for the inside, unless you move James to the bench.

 

[boysfanindc]

I think if the Boys feel Pettiti will eventually round him self into a productive tackle then we bring in a guy like Runyan for a year or two. If they feel he does not have the tools to eventually become a productive starter then you have to go for a OT in the draft.

I believe this draft is fairly deep on Tackles, I believe there are 4 or 5 guys that will become quality starters and a few that have Pro Bol potential.

I further believe it is too early to give up on Al Johnson, Johnson is listed as 6'5" 305 lbs, so he he is bigger then the top guys coming out this year. I also believe the quality of the Center play is effected by the play of the guards. Rivera obvioulsy had a down year with his back and Allen is on the down side.

Al was also fighting a knee problem for a lot of the year.

If believe Flozell and Rivera will come back healthy and they will bring back Gurode as a backup. Al needs to get healthy and hit the weight room.

So in my mind it comes down to whether they bring Allen back and if they believe Pettiti has the tools to be a long term solution.

If they believe Pettiti has the tools I would bring in Runyan for a few years and draft a guard to replace Allen.

If Pettiti does not have the tools long term then you need to keep Allen another year and draft a Tackle.

Because of our other needs at ILB, FS, K and WR, I believe we only address one OL position with the first 3 in the draft or free agency.

Of course this could change if we get a 2nd or 3rd for either Glover or Ellis.

My vote would be to keep Glover over Ellis, because we have more rotation options at DE then we do at nose guard in my opionion.

 

[Alexander]

You think Huff is the right pick or should we get someone else?

I would be all for a safety who could cover. We could do much much worse.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Petiti was quite possibly the worst rookie I've seen start at right tackle in a LOOOONG TIME!!! The guys has lead feet and doesn't have the athletic skills needed for that position, he'll be a better backup at guard.

 

[boysfanindc]

Petiti was quite possibly the worst rookie I've seen start at right tackle in a LOOOONG TIME!!! The guys has lead feet and doesn't have the athletic skills needed for that position, he'll be a better backup at guard.

I think the jury is still out, Brunell was done last year until he got healthy. Does Pettiti have no talent our was he limited because of injury.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

What are you talking about???? Petiti's performance had NOTHING to do with injuries LMAOOO.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Here's my early analysis of what the Boys should do this offseason:

Sign a RT in free agency like Asworth from Pats or Runyan from the Eagles.
Sign Antwaan Randle El. Nice complimentary receiver and ideal punt returner.
Get a vet kicker like Joe Nedney.
Sign a vet center to push/replace Al Johnson. Not sure who is available.

In the draft:
1. LaRon Landry or Michael Huff s
2. Bobby Carpenter olb
3. Maurice Stovall wr
4. no pick
5. Charles Spencer og
6. try and get a developmental qb with some upside if possible here
7. Big NT ala Jason Ferguson. If we dump Glover, I'm not wild about just Pepper Johnson behind Fergie.

 

[DLCassidy]

If I had to pick three positions not to address in the draft it would be FS, K and center. Corey Chavous, Ryan Longwell and Kevin Mawae would top my wish list at those positions.

If I had to pick two postions I would like to address with the draft they would be OT and LB. Good tackles and good linebackers are usually drafted and developed, which is the way we should go.

My hope is that Marcus Mcneil is there at 18. He could be a strong challenge to Petitti at RT in the short term and a heir apparent to FA at LT in the long term.

I think we do OLB or ILB in the 2nd round depending on where BP sees Burnett going. My guess is Burnett will go inside to team with Brady James but I could be wrong.

Depending on what BP decides to do with Glover and Ellis we could have as many as 3 third round picks. I could see those three picks going NT, OG and WR in no particular order.

If Henson continues to talk about his unhappiness we could move him and get back into the 4th round which might be the spot we use to draft another develpmental QB.

If we used the 5th on a DB and the two 6ths on a blocking FB and another LB that makes sense to me.

 

[boysfanindc]

What are you talking about???? Petiti's performance had NOTHING to do with injuries LMAOOO.

Well it is good to know I am speaking with someone on the trainning staff, thanks for the info.

I persoanlly did not know anyone on the staff until now. His father who posts here clearly stated he played with pain/ injury all year.

I saw him hurt his ankle and not miss more then a play or two.

But I guess I stand corrected since you obviously have a inside source.

 

[burmafrd]

Al J will not get any stronger. He is listed at 305, but actually is around 295. Against the big NT's he had a lot of trouble. We need someone bigger and stronger. More and more teams are going to the 3-4 so the situation will get worse.

 

[boysfanindc]

Al J will not get any stronger. He is listed at 305, but actually is around 295. Against the big NT's he had a lot of trouble. We need someone bigger and stronger. More and more teams are going to the 3-4 so the situation will get worse.

So who would you get?, none of the top guys in the draft are bigger then AL, Bently will get the tag and is no more then 10 lbs heavier. The Skins signed a very good center lasy year Casey Rabach 6'4" 301 and Al is 6'5" 305.

You know what Stepnoski played at?

You do not have to have a 320lb center if you guards are solid.

But the question still is who would you bring in for millions more then Johnson that would be worth the money.

If Johnson gets healthy and stronger and the guards are solid, he is our best altenative.

 

[Jarv]

Biggest need is a QB who doesn't turn the ball over and give up sacks for negative plays as much as Bledsoe did this year

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Our biggest needs in order are:

MLB - With Dat Nguwin retiring, we have NO legitimate starter here. Because of that, this is our biggest need. We have other LB's that are good for quality-depth, however, none are starter-qulaity.



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Pretty much agree with all of what you said except this. NO legit starteR? Brady James didn't look like a player to you this year? To me he looked pretty good. Though I do agree that Super Man Shanle isn't quite the answer, though he is a good backup.

Get a OLB besides Ware. 3-4 is supposed to disguise the 4th rusher, well taht's not easy to do when everyone knows its Ware who's coming.

Im worried about LT a little bit, but alot less with a healthy Adams. Though the idea of Tucker taking on the entire season at LT doesn't sit well with me. RT is a bigger concern, IMO. We should bring a vet in, or draft somebody, along with giving Pettiti another off season to get quicker and stronger.