Our Current Draft Position (7th)

[CowboysLaw87]

I've said this on here a couple times, but these websites/media outlets are generally reporting the SOS to date (through 13 games). Taking into account the total wins on everyone's 16 game schedule, we're 7th. I wanted to start a separate thread, and post the true landscape. Here is the order for teams with 5 or less wins...

Tennessee 3 103
San Diego 3 109
Cleveland 3 110
Baltimore 4 107
Detroit 4 110
San Francisco 4 110
Dallas 4 111
Jacksonville 5 97
Miami 5 98
New York 5 104
New Orleans 5 106
Chicago 5 109
St. Louis 5 110

The last row is the total wins on that team's entire 16 game schedule. It's the most accurate predictor of final SOS. As you can see, we're in a bad tie-breaker position, since our SOS is actually one of the strongest in the league.

Quick note... Detroit plays SF in a couple weeks. So if we go 0-3 to close out, we're guaranteed at least the #6 pick.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The teams to worry about are San Diego, Cleveland and San Francisco in terms of getting a QB for the future.

San Diego faces the Dolphins at home. Not only are the Dolphins bad and it is on the West Coast, but the Dolphins are playing MNF. Then you have @Oakland and @denver. I will say I think they have a better chance of going 2-1 than the Cowboys do at going 1-2 at this point.

Cleveland will be interesting because Manziel really has not looked that bad this year at all. And he's doing it with virtually nothing at WR. I would imagine that at this point, he has more support from Haslam than Ray Farmer and Mike Pettine do. So while they are @Seattle, @KC and then have the Steelers at home, the more important thing is that Manziel stay clean, stay healthy and play pretty well.

SF has Cincinnati at home w/o Andy Dalton, then @Detroit and then St. Louis. I would actually take them to go 2-1 over Dallas going 1-2 at this point.

I wouldn't worry about Detroit. I think they are going to be the 'team that nobody wants to face in December' as they are starting to come around, so they'll likely get some wins. Jim Bob Cooter, as goofy as his name sounds, has been a great playcaller. And they ain't getting rid of Matt Stafford anyway. Too expensive to do so and I don't think he's the problem...his O-Line has been arguably the worst in football this year.

The only thing we have to worry about, other than winning an extra game is if we are say #4, the other teams that are not planning to draft a QB could trade down to somebody like St. Louis, New Orleans, etc. that want a QB.





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[Sydla]

I think people worrying about draft position in the Top Ten thinking we are trying to slot ourselves for a QB are going to be disappointed.

I don't think there's a frog's chance in hell we take a QB in the Top Ten. Maybe in the 2nd or 3rd round though.

 

[jnday]

I think people worrying about draft position in the Top Ten thinking we are trying to slot ourselves for a QB are going to be disappointed.

I don't think there's a frog's chance in hell we take a QB in the Top Ten. Maybe in the 2nd or 3rd round though.

Not spending a top pick on QB is the reason this team will continue to hurt at the position . If you want the top talent , you have to pay for it.

 

[Sydla]

Not spending a top pick on QB is the reason this team will continue to hurt at the position . If you want the top talent , you have to pay for it.

You don't need to spend a top pick to get a decent QB. Now if we had to have an elite QB beause we had no QB, that's a different story. But taking a Top Ten QB in what is a a weak QB draft by most indications so that guy can hopefully sit behind Romo for 3 years is a waste of an asset IMO especially when you likely can land an immediate impact player on defense.

If this team was in strip down mode and looking to reboot the franchise, sure. But we clearly are toeing the line of still trying to contend, so using your best pick on a QB that by most indications is a questionable talent and likely wouldn't be a Top 10 pick in a better QB draft is just not wise IMO.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't take a QB at some point, but I would prefer taking a kid like Hackenberg or Wentz in the 2nd or 3rd round as the development project.

 

[KB1122]

Why would we take a qb in the second or third round? If you are going to take one, do it in round 1 or don't do it at all, IMO. Early 2nd at the latest.

I've heard Garrett basically that, so I'm not that worried.

 

[Sydla]

Why would we take a qb in the second or third round? If you are going to take one, do it in round 1 or don't do it at all, IMO. Early 2nd at the latest.

I've heard Garrett basically that, so I'm not that worried.

Because you can't whiff on a first round pick. Both these QBs are huge question marks to the point that some wonder if the gap between them and someone like Hackenberg who will go Rd 2 is all that great.

There will be a bevy of defensive talent available in the Top 10 and the Cowboys can use help everywhere on defense. I'd rather take an impact defensive player with the 6th pick than a QB who is probably overvalued anyway and the plan is to just have him sit behind Romo for 3 years anyway.

Again, people are falling into this trap that apparently you can only land a franchise QB if you pick them in the Top 10.

 

[mattjames2010]

Not spending a top pick on QB is the reason this team will continue to hurt at the position . If you want the top talent , you have to pay for it.

And once again, you people really think a rookie QB was going to be the difference this season?

We're not drafting a QB in the first round this year, so get all your complaints out now. We will have the CB position to address, we have the safety position to upgrade, a hole at DT (Hayden doesn't count), we may need to start looking into WR. We have Romo under contract, he's not being cut or is he retiring any time soon. You get the backup QB through FA and draft a QB later in the draft as a developmental QB.

 

[jnday]

Because you can't whiff on a first round pick. Both these QBs are huge question marks to the point that some wonder if the gap between them and someone like Hackenberg who will go Rd 2 is all that great.

There will be a bevy of defensive talent available in the Top 10 and the Cowboys can use help everywhere on defense. I'd rather take an impact defensive player with the 6th pick than a QB who is probably overvalued anyway and the plan is to just have him sit behind Romo for 3 years anyway.

Again, people are falling into this trap that apparently you can only land a franchise QB if you pick them in the Top 10.

We didn't do so well with Romo out all year. We may not have him another year. It would not have been wasted resources if they drafted a good QB. It looks like would have payed off. I don't want a complete loss when Romo retires. I want a smooth transition.

 

[jnday]

And once again, you people really think a rookie QB was going to be the difference this season?

We're not drafting a QB in the first round this year, so get all your complaints out now. We will have the CB position to address, we have the safety position to upgrade, a hole at DT (Hayden doesn't count), we may need to start looking into WR. We have Romo under contract, he's not being cut or is he retiring any time soon. You get the backup QB through FA and draft a QB later in the draft as a developmental QB.

I see how much these top picks pan out their rookie season. Gregory has really been on a roll and Jones hasn't done much more.

 

[mattjames2010]

I see how much these top picks pan out their rookie season. Gregory has really been on a roll and Jones hasn't done much more.

What are you talking about? Jones is considered to be having a good rookie season by many. Gregory was a late second round pick, we'll see how he does the rest of the season and next year after having time to put on more weight.

It's funny you pointed out Gregory, Lawrence came in with all the same issues. How's he doing now?

 

[ceerrece]

Projected NFL Draft order as of now:

1. TENN (3-10)
2. CLEV (3-10)
3. SD (3-10)
4. BALT (4-9)
5. SF (4-9)
6. DAL (4-9)
7. DET (4-9)
Per Adam Shefter

 

[jnday]

What are you talking about? Jones is considered to be having a good rookie season by many. Gregory was a late second round pick, we'll see how he does the rest of the season and next year after having time to put on more weight.

It's funny you pointed out Gregory, Lawrence came in with all the same issues. How's he doing now?

Lawrence is not that hot. A rookie does not have much of an impact at any position for the most part. What the heck, let them draft a good 3rd round project. They seem to work great.

 

[mattjames2010]

Lawrence is not that hot. A rookie does not have much of an impact at any position for the most part. What the heck, let them draft a good 3rd round project. They seem to work great.

He has recorded a sack in 4 out of the last 5 games. I'm gonna go ahead and say he's on quite a hot streak.