Our defense needs more athleticism

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It's easy to see that for the last two or three decades, the NFL owners and decision makers have changed the rules and philosophy of this league to strongly favor the offense. In the NFL, offense is the chosen one, the favorite son of its power brokers.

All you have to do is watch some film of the great defenses of the 60s, 70s and 80s and it’s fun just watching how many penalties would be called in today’s game. Some of it has changed for the better, especially in regard to player safety.

But here’s my point and how it should relate to the draft: Because it is harder than ever to play good defense in today’s NFL, a top notch defensive player must be very athletic- in fact they probably need to be the best athletes on the team. Our defense our gotten better, but IMO, it is still lacking overall in big playmaking ability.

Today’s pass rushers are at a premium because they MUST be extremely athletic- fast, agile, and possess a relentless engine. Today’s LBs must be able to be strong at the point of attack, fast enough for all kinds of pass coverage, and athletic enough to be a true hybrid of skills. Safeties must be able to not only great in coverage but also able to be a real help in the running game when needed. Corners must be fast, great tacklers and have the hands of a WR.

Again, the modern NFL defense requires unbelievable athleticism. And it’s why I firmly believe we should be spending lots of draft capital adding very athletic defensive talent. Our defense has improved over the last couple of years, but it’s talent pool cannot be consideredtop shelf yet. We need more athletes; more playmakers!

Great defenders in today’s game are at a higher premium than ever. It could be said from the 50s-90s in the NFL, the best athletes were on offense. Not true anymore.

Not saying we don’t need any help on offense. But getting impactful WRs for example, is much easier than getting an impactful, athletic defensive player.
 
It's easy to see that for the last two or three decades, the NFL owners and decision makers have changed the rules and philosophy of this league to strongly favor the offense. In the NFL, offense is the chosen one, the favorite son of its power brokers.

All you have to do is watch some film of the great defenses of the 60s, 70s and 80s and it’s fun just watching how many penalties would be called in today’s game. Some of it has changed for the better, especially in regard to player safety.

But here’s my point and how it should relate to the draft: Because it is harder than ever to play good defense in today’s NFL, a top notch defensive player must be very athletic- in fact they probably need to be the best athletes on the team. Our defense our gotten better, but IMO, it is still lacking overall in big playmaking ability.

Today’s pass rushers are at a premium because they MUST be extremely athletic- fast, agile, and possess a relentless engine. Today’s LBs must be able to be strong at the point of attack, fast enough for all kinds of pass coverage, and athletic enough to be a true hybrid of skills. Safeties must be able to not only great in coverage but also able to be a real help in the running game when needed. Corners must be fast, great tacklers and have the hands of a WR.

Again, the modern NFL defense requires unbelievable athleticism. And it’s why I firmly believe we should be spending lots of draft capital adding very athletic defensive talent. Our defense has improved over the last couple of years, but it’s talent pool cannot be consideredtop shelf yet. We need more athletes; more playmakers!

Great defenders in today’s game are at a higher premium than ever. It could be said from the 50s-90s in the NFL, the best athletes were on offense. Not true anymore.

Not saying we don’t need any help on offense. But getting impactful WRs for example, is much easier than getting an impactful, athletic defensive player.

The defense does not lack athleticism. They replaced most of the limited athletes last year. Carr, Church, etc.. They need to add talent overall but they are not a slow defense.

The offense is lacking in speed. Witten and Dez are slow. Hurns is not a speed guy. TWill is average or slightly below average speed. The backup RB is not a speed guy. Beasley/Switzer more quick than fast. WR Brown not a speed guy.
 
The defense does not lack athleticism. They replaced most of the limited athletes last year. Carr, Church, etc.. They need to add talent overall but they are not a slow defense.

The offense is lacking in speed. Witten and Dez are slow. Hurns is not a speed guy. TWill is average or slightly below average speed. The backup RB is not a speed guy. Beasley/Switzer more quick than fast. WR Brown not a speed guy.
I think the whole team needs more speed.
 
The defense does not lack athleticism. They replaced most of the limited athletes last year. Carr, Church, etc.. They need to add talent overall but they are not a slow defense.

The offense is lacking in speed. Witten and Dez are slow. Hurns is not a speed guy. TWill is average or slightly below average speed. The backup RB is not a speed guy. Beasley/Switzer more quick than fast. WR Brown not a speed guy.
I don’t disagree with you. We do need more speed. All I’m saying is it’s harder to get good defensive talent than offensive talent these days and IMO, this draft is not particularly loaded at the top with the kind of offensive talent we need. The WRs are mostly late first-early second round type talent. Yes we need some help at several positions but defense is where I believe we can upgrade the most early in this draft.
 
I don’t disagree with you. We do need more speed. All I’m saying is it’s harder to get good defensive talent than offensive talent these days and IMO, this draft is not particularly loaded at the top with the kind of offensive talent we need. The WRs are mostly late first-early second round type talent. Yes we need some help at several positions but defense is where I believe we can upgrade the most early in this draft.
The most difficult positions to fill:
QB
Pass Rusher (includes some DTs)
LT
WR
CB
 
The most difficult positions to fill:
QB
Pass Rusher (includes some DTs)
LT
WR
CB
Again....I Agree. Except WR. That’s not one of the most difficult to find. But can we also assume we don’t necessarily need talent at each of those positions every year?
 
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Again....I Agree. Except WR. That’s not one of the most difficult to find. But can we also assume we don’t necessarily need talent at each of those positions every year?
If Tyron's health is OK, then they are OK at those positions except WR.

WR is far from easy to acquire. Watkins got 16M per and he has just been average.

The Cowboys have 2 or 3 CBs that are better, especially in regards to upside than anything they have at WR.

The free agent WRs are stopgap players.
TWill should be a #3 at best.
Beasley/Switzer are limited, niche type players.
Brown didn't do much and is speed limited.
Dez is in decline. Even if he stays they have no upside at WR.

WR takes time to develop and quality WRs rarely hit free agency. When they do it normally because they have some underlying issue and the good-not-great ones get extreme contracts.

If a team is one 4-3 LB or 1-tech or Safety away from a Super Bowl they can find one but finding a legit #1 WR is very very difficult. The Patriots QB and scheme allows them to get by with good WRs but most teams don't do well without a legit #1 WR. The Patriots WRs are very smart even if they are not top tier physical specimens.
 
The most difficult positions to fill:
QB
Pass Rusher (includes some DTs)
LT
WR
CB

WR is without a doubt 1 of the easier positions to fill. The coach, QB, and o line dictate how well RB's and WR's do. Without help those positions are near useless, and with a lot of help they can be elevated beyond their talent. Teams succeeding without big investments in the WR group has been demonstrated numerous times, and there are routinely WR's and RB's drafted late that are great.
 
WR is without a doubt 1 of the easier positions to fill. The coach, QB, and o line dictate how well RB's and WR's do. Without help those positions are near useless, and with a lot of help they can be elevated beyond their talent. Teams succeeding without big investments in the WR group has been demonstrated numerous times, and there are routinely WR's and RB's drafted late that are great.

That has been debunked.

Looking over past Super Bowl winners most either a legit #1 WR multiple that were better than the Cowboys group on 2017.
 
Again....I Agree. Except WR. That’s not one of the most difficult to find. But can we also assume we don’t necessarily need talent at each of those positions every year?
Receiver is much harder to translate into the pros. That's why most rookie receivers don't light it up their first year.

We are in a run first offense so I do agree to a certain point that receiver isn't as high on the list. Adding a speed guy would help open up the offense especially with Zeke running
 
Receiver is much harder to translate into the pros. That's why most rookie receivers don't light it up their first year.

We are in a run first offense so I do agree to a certain point that receiver isn't as high on the list. Adding a speed guy would help open up the offense especially with Zeke running


Agree.. I know people don’t like Chark but what a piece he would be for our offense.


He is agile, big, super fast, and had a great vertical.
 
Hamilton and Sutton are 2 pro style wr's. They are my top 2...Ridley is 3. Anthony Miller is my 4th ranked guy. and my pet cat is Moore.
 
That has been debunked.

Looking over past Super Bowl winners most either a legit #1 WR multiple that were better than the Cowboys group on 2017.

Then you look at top offenses and it is even more pronounced.

WR is a premium position as demonstrated by the draft, free agent contracts, and the composition of winning teams or ones that score a lot o points.
 
That has been debunked.

Looking over past Super Bowl winners most either a legit #1 WR multiple that were better than the Cowboys group on 2017.
Here are the last 10 Super Bowl winners leading WRs...Each was the receiver who caught the most passes in their team’s SB winning season...there’s some good receivers here but it’s clear, you don’t have to have a star receiver to win a SB.

2017- Eagles- Alshon Jeffrey

2016- Patriots-Julian Edelman

2015- Broncos- Demarius Thomas

2014-Patriots- Julian Edelman

2013- Seahawks- Doug Baldwin

2012- Ravens- Anquan Boldin

2011- Giants- Victor Cruz

2010- Packers-Greg Jennings

2009- Saints- Marquese Colton

2008- Steelers- Hines Ward

There may be a couple of HOFers in there...Ward? Maybe Boldin?
 
Then you look at top offenses and it is even more pronounced.

WR is a premium position as demonstrated by the draft, free agent contracts, and the composition of winning teams or ones that score a lot o points.

Yes, I don't know where people came up with the idea that it is not a premium position.
 

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