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Blows! I think Wade is sucking as a talent evaluator. He claims to be good at that, but our 7-8 LBs, our #6 Wr, OUR 8-10 oLINE, our 6-8 Dline, and our 4-6 safetys suck

How soon till we miss Bill's ability to spot a diamond in the rough?
 

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Ummm, Bill found Crayton, Ratliff, and others... Wade hasn't found one of those yet
 

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Since when will our #6 receiver, #10 offensive linemen #8 linebacker and #8 defensive linemen play in the regular season when the game is on the line?

Come back to me when you get an answer.
 

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Our backup players played bad tonight and the Sage Rosenfield scramble everyone who was one that field should be cut.
 

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The #6 receiver, #8 LB, etc matter when a) injury b) future

Crayton was #53 once, so was Romo, Ratliff in bottom 10... any more questions?

Bill called it churning, and I like what he did
 

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ejthedj;2207319 said:
Ummm, Bill found Crayton, Ratliff, and others... Wade hasn't found one of those yet

You do realize that Wade has only drafted 8 players who have ever played in a regular season game and all of them were rookies last year.

You act as if he has been here for 5 years.

You fail to mention our Pro Bowl kicker was picked in the 6th round last year. Our starting FB was picked in the 6th round.

Scandrick looks promising.

How impressive was (correction 2nd) Bill's first draft?

Julius Jones RB Notre Dame - Shown the door
Jacob Rogers T USC - Bust
Stephen Peterman G Louisiana State - Bust
Bruce Thornton DB Georgia - Bust
Sean Ryan TE Boston College - Bust
Nathan Jones DB Rutgers - Bust
Patrick Crayton WR Northwestern Oklahoma - Excellent pick
Jacques Reeves - Shown the door

Yeah, if only we could duplicate drafts like that every year...championship!
 

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gbrittain;2207432 said:
You do realize that Wade has only drafted 8 players who have ever played in a regular season game and all of them were rookies last year.

You act as if he has been here for 5 years.

You fail to mention our Pro Bowl kicker was picked in the 6th round last year. Our starting FB was picked in the 6th round.

Scandrick looks promising.

How impressive was Bill's first draft?

Julius Jones RB Notre Dame - Shown the door
Jacob Rogers T USC - Bust
Stephen Peterman G Louisiana State - Bust
Bruce Thornton DB Georgia - Bust
Sean Ryan TE Boston College - Bust
Nathan Jones DB Rutgers - Bust
Patrick Crayton WR Northwestern Oklahoma - Excellent pick
Jacques Reeves - Shown the door

Yeah, if only we could duplicate drafts like that every year...championship!


Good point, but I am worried about the Walden's and that TT lineman and Ball, etc.--they got no shot. In late rounds, Bill was golden
 

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I liked some of what Bill did but it's hardly like Wade's been here long enough to find a diamond in the rough.

But I will say this I don't recall our kick and punt coverage teams every being anywhere near this bad under Bill. That is something that darn sure does need to change and change in a real hurry.
 

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I do think we'll miss Bill's talent evaluation down the road. I don't necessarily see it as a hit this year, but three years I think we could feel it.

For the person that criticized Parcells above, well, yeah, of course he had some huge -- HUGE -- misses. Everyone does. But he provided us many, many mid-to-late round contributors.

Guys like Crayton, Reeves, Nate Jones, Ratliff, etc., etc., etc., are pretty darn good late-round picks. We'll see if a guy like Erik Walden or Alan Ball can stick around as long as players like those (heck, Crayton, Reeves and Ratliff are all about $20 million-plus players now).
 

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BraveHeartFan;2207450 said:
I liked some of what Bill did but it's hardly like Wade's been here long enough to find a diamond in the rough.

But I will say this I don't recall our kick and punt coverage teams every being anywhere near this bad under Bill. That is something that darn sure does need to change and change in a real hurry.

You're absolutely right that Wade's drafts need more time. Ratliff didn't shine from Day 1. Two years from now, Alan Ball *could* be a guy who suddenly emerges and learns how to use his size and speed.

So far, in the earliest of stages, though, no late rounders have really emerged as such candidates. But there's still time.
 

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ejthedj;2207344 said:
The #6 receiver, #8 LB, etc matter when a) injury b) future

Crayton was #53 once, so was Romo, Ratliff in bottom 10... any more questions?

Bill called it churning, and I like what he did

Yeah, right, our #6 receiver will play with the game on the line, you're a joke. You think 1st and goal from the 10 down by 7 we will send out our 5th receiver(Who originally was 6th but due to an injury gets promoted.

Oh, and I would like to add that the majority of our receivers are under 26 years old, and by the time T.O retires we will have either signed a free agent WR or drafted one in the first round. So there goes that argument.

On to line backers, you're saying all of our four starting linebackers will be injured at the same time, for the same length so #8 will get a chance to play? Nice try.

And if you love Bill so much go cheer for the Dolphins and post on their message boards because you're threads blow.

EDIT: Walden has no shot? Um, he wasn't drafted to play this year, he was a DE at a small school you ignorant chew toy. He's going to be a practice squad this year learning the position of OLB in the 3-4. My lord you pay attention to nothing.
 

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ejthedj;2207319 said:
Ummm, Bill found Crayton, Ratliff, and others... Wade hasn't found one of those yet
And Bill would've risked selecting Marcus Spears instead of Demarcus Ware.

Luckily, no one person is responsible for making decisions and the group decides what is best.

Jerry wanted to trade up in the second for James Hardy and the scouts said no.
 

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RainMan;2207456 said:
I do think we'll miss Bill's talent evaluation down the road. I don't necessarily see it as a hit this year, but three years I think we could feel it.

For the person that criticized Parcells above, well, yeah, of course he had some huge -- HUGE -- misses. Everyone does. But he provided us many, many mid-to-late round contributors.

Guys like Crayton, Reeves, Nate Jones, Ratliff, etc., etc., etc., are pretty darn good late-round picks. We'll see if a guy like Erik Walden or Alan Ball can stick around as long as players like those (heck, Crayton, Reeves and Ratliff are all about $20 million-plus players now).

I don't each of Bill hits theres about 2 or 3 failures to go along with it. How did Skyler Green work out.....
 

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ejthedj;2207446 said:
Good point, but I am worried about the Walden's and that TT lineman and Ball, etc.--they got no shot. In late rounds, Bill was golden

It is just to early to judge.

You could end up being 100% correct, but there is no way of knowing any of this for a few more years.
 

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It really is too early. BTW: walden will be cut for sure, and I think Ball should be too: but don't know if he will be. Oglesby nudges him out I think.
 

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Brandon;2207474 said:
Yeah, right, our #6 receiver will play with the game on the line, you're a joke. You think 1st and goal from the 10 down by 7 we will send out our 5th receiver(Who originally was 6th but due to an injury gets promoted.

Oh, and I would like to add that the majority of our receivers are under 26 years old, and by the time T.O retires we will have either signed a free agent WR or drafted one in the first round. So there goes that argument.

On to line backers, you're saying all of our four starting linebackers will be injured at the same time, for the same length so #8 will get a chance to play? Nice try.

And if you love Bill so much go cheer for the Dolphins and post on their message boards because you're threads blow.

EDIT: Walden has no shot? Um, he wasn't drafted to play this year, he was a DE at a small school you ignorant chew toy. He's going to be a practice squad this year learning the position of OLB in the 3-4. My lord you pay attention to nothing.

And we see once again why you are loved by everyone
 

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Our 53 man roster is fine but I see erosion starting. WR/LB for starters.

JJ's downfall is overvaluing "his guys". Parcells was quick to cut a mistake draft pick and he and Ireland produced in totality. Time will tell what Lacewell/JJ do this go round. History shows without dominant football person in charge - they tank team.
 

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if anybody is to blame is Jerry Jones because he clearly stated he made the final decisions on all draft choices. Jerry has probably been the worst GM in football over the last 1o years. Go back and look at the last 8 years and the cowboys only 2 good drafts 2003 and 2005. The other were failures. I will go back a try to find those draft choices and post late. In the age of free agecny you must draft well to suceed or you will eat up your cap for talent you should have drafted.
 
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