Our mistake - firing Wade Phillips

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Wade was a mistake and Garrett's been a much bigger mistake. Garrett has the Cowboys so stuck in the mud he's making Wade look like he was a good head coach to some.
 

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Other than the fact the team completely quit on him - I agree.

Yeah, right. The team quit on the head coach Wade Phillips but not on the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett (who, as it turns out, is a complete moron who couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag). Get real.

Had Romo got hurt early in this season, what do you think the team would have done? I'll tell you exactly what they would have done: given up and went home early just like they did on Wade
 

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Why did Parcells leave anyway? I honestly forget. Was he burned out? I remember Jerry giving him an extra million to stay the year before, but he ended up leaving the next year anyway. The fact that it was right after the bobbled snap made it feel like he left us high and dry. If it was Jerry's meddling, that explains it. It just felt like unfinished business. Who knows what he would've done with the 13-3 team the following year? We'll never know.

It's what he does. He's not for long anywhere he goes. He was an old man and I personally believe working with those two lunatics probably really grinded on him. His comment when he left "Before long, you won't even know I was here." spoke volumes to me.

Maybe you couldn't get him to stay but you certainly didn't have to reverse course and conduct a head coaching search that begot Wade Phillips and Norv Turner as your top two candidates. It is that mistake that has us where we are today, IMO.
 

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I won't go that far. Phillips did some good. He had that defense playing lights out. Something Parcells couldn't do. We went 13-3 with Wade. Anyone saying it was a mistake to hire him is exaggerating.

The defense played well because the reins were loosened and that in the end was his downfall.

Philips capitalized on a young and talented team and really added nothing to the mix.

What are your thoughts in Switzer?

I feel the two coaches tenures are very similar to each other.
 

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Too much revisionist history. Wade stunk. He won in 2007 with Parcells' team. He won the division in 2009, but got trounced by the Vikings in the playoffs. We weren't even competitive. Wade was a prime symbol of the post-Parcells dysfunction in this organization. He had to deal with golden boy offensive coordinator.
 

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I don't agree. At all. He's a weak willed puppet excuse maker who helped destroy the improved culture and turned the direction of the team around in a few years.

He took over a team ready to compete, looked good to the clueless for a few years, then you saw what the ramifications were when you had large and in charge Jerry with his fat puppet.

Wade Phillips sucks. Had he taken over the team in 2003 we would have sucked in 2007. The only positive I can give him for his time in Dallas was timing.

But this team didn't go 13-3 because of a culture change. It went 13-3 because of Wade's defense. He came in and made a impact on defense. Parcells at his end here couldn't coach a game to save his life and he ran Sean Payton out of here with his stubbornness.

Wade didn't just sit there with a smile on his face and coach this team to 13-3. Granted, he wasn't the sole reason but he was a big part of the reason.

And I won't give Wade credit for this team tanking like it did after the 13-3 season. That would be letting Jerry and his meddling off the hook.
 

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The defense played well because the reins were loosened and that in the end was his downfall.

Philips capitalized on a young and talented team and really added nothing to the mix.

What are your thoughts in Switzer?

I feel the two coaches tenures are very similar to each other.

I feel like Switzer inherited a Dynasty. I feel like Wade inherited a 10 win team that benefited from Wade's defense and it generated a few more wins. Plus the offense was lights out too and was far more aggressive than it was while Parcells was here who played too conservative for my liking.
 

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Jerry admitted after Wade was gone that he wouldn't have let Garrett be fired basically no matter what. Dodger mentioned Wade being hired because he was a good 34 coach and because he was soft... I'd say it was because he was a good defensive coach and he'd accept an incredibly green Garrett being given free rein over the offense. Basically none of the other candidates in 2007 fit that one crucial Jerry criterion.
That was the deal. Jerry would get his DC and Wade would get his HC job. I remember the video of Jerry saying that was the only way to get Wade -- to make him head coach. I remember it well because of the fact that Jerry slipped and called Wade the "defensive coordinator."
 

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But this team didn't go 13-3 because of a culture change. It went 13-3 because of Wade's defense. He came in and made a impact on defense. Parcells at his end here couldn't coach a game to save his life and he ran Sean Payton out of here with his stubbornness.

Wade didn't just sit there with a smile on his face and coach this team to 13-3. Granted, he wasn't the sole reason but he was a big part of the reason.

And I won't give Wade credit for this team tanking like it did after the 13-3 season. That would be letting Jerry and his meddling off the hook.

It went 13-3 because the core players were maturing into their prime and the QB was finally ready to play with some experience under his belt.

And as those players continued into their prime the results got worse. Because Jerry was in charge and the head coach was a fraud.
 

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The defense played well because the reins were loosened and that in the end was his downfall.

Philips capitalized on a young and talented team and really added nothing to the mix.

What are your thoughts in Switzer?

I feel the two coaches tenures are very similar to each other.

Extremely similar. Though I think Wade is at least a professional NFL coach. An assistant coach, but at least legit and professional. Barry was a joke.
 

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I was all for it, and I was wrong. In hindsight he was a great coach for us, Garrett was the problem and is the problem now.

Yea, he did great with BP's players huh? How about the drafts under him? Wade is weak.
 

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But this team didn't go 13-3 because of a culture change. It went 13-3 because of Wade's defense. He came in and made a impact on defense. Parcells at his end here couldn't coach a game to save his life and he ran Sean Payton out of here with his stubbornness.

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Sean Payton dedicated a whole chapter to Parcells in his autobiography. He said anything else would have been an injustice of Parcells influence. Hardly runnng him off. Just the opposite. Parcells helped him rebuild his career and with that he got a head coaching offer.
 

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But this team didn't go 13-3 because of a culture change. It went 13-3 because of Wade's defense. He came in and made a impact on defense. Parcells at his end here couldn't coach a game to save his life and he ran Sean Payton out of here with his stubbornness.

Wade didn't just sit there with a smile on his face and coach this team to 13-3. Granted, he wasn't the sole reason but he was a big part of the reason.

And I won't give Wade credit for this team tanking like it did after the 13-3 season. That would be letting Jerry and his meddling off the hook.

That team went 13 and 3 because Romo evolved into a franchise QB. It was the direction the team was headed, regardless of Wade Phillips. That all started to erode after that and the writing was on the wall when the Eagles blew us out in Philly something like 44 to 6.

And I've heard people mentioned Parcells running Payton out of town. If that's the case, he would have taken the Oakland job which he turned down on advice from Parcells. It's not a coincidence that coaches like Parcells have extensive coaching trees, all the way down to Todd Haley. And Payton hated Parcells so much that their were rumors Payton wanted Parcells to coach the Saints while he was suspended. I think you're way off......
 

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The difference between Wade and Switzer is that Switzer's teams, though one of them did win a SB, were never as good as the ones he inherited.

Wade's teams, on the other hand, accomplished more and played better than Parcells' did. People talk about how Parcells left a Ferrari or whatever, but the fact is, that Ferrari never won 10 games and never won a playoff game.

Now yes, of course Parcells is a better head coach than Wade. Parcells is a HOFer and a legend. Hiring him was the best thing Jerry ever did aside from hiring Jimmy. But some hated Wade so much they refused to give him any credit at all because they thought it somehow diminished Parcells, or because they spent so much time arguing he was a bum they refused to open their minds, or whatever. But if you think you just inherit a Parcells team and it goes on autopilot and wins by itself, go Google the name Ray Handley, who was a handpicked Parcells Guy.
 
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