Our most defining draft of the last 10 years?

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While I think every draft is important. I believe some drafts are more "defining" than others as far as telling us as fans where a team is headed in the not too distant future.

Looking back, this might be the most defining draft we've had in a long time. While last year's was more important in my book, by the end of tomorrow I think we'll have a very good idea of not only how capable this team is when it comes to competing in '06 but very specifically when Parcells' thinks of the various personnel on this team.

I think most fans, myself included think we'll come out of the first 3 rounds tomorrow with:

1 OLB
1 Offensive lineman
1 Free Safety

Personally I think if we deviate off of that path at all it will not only shock many of us but will shock some players within the organization.

For example if we drafted a:

QB
RB
TE

In any of the first 3 rounds not only do I think it means the current players at those positions are not measuring up BUT it means we are worse off than the positions listed above, namely OLB, OL, FS, which I would find hard to believe.

Do you see this as a "defining" draft for the Dallas Cowboys?
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Do you see this as a "defining" draft for the Dallas Cowboys?
No. Last year was. We switched to a 3-4 D then went out and drafted some players who will be corner stone of that D for years to come.

I agree with you on our picks for tomorrow. We get the OLB and FS we want and our D could be very good. But it all started last year.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
While I think every draft is important. I believe some drafts are more "defining" than others as far as telling us as fans where a team is headed in the not too distant future.

Looking back, this might be the most defining draft we've had in a long time. While last year's was more important in my book, by the end of tomorrow I think we'll have a very good idea of not only how capable this team is when it comes to competing in '06 but very specifically when Parcells' thinks of the various personnel on this team.

I think most fans, myself included think we'll come out of the first 3 rounds tomorrow with:

1 OLB
1 Offensive lineman
1 Free Safety

Personally I think if we deviate off of that path at all it will not only shock many of us but will shock some players within the organization.

For example if we drafted a:

QB
RB
TE

In any of the first 3 rounds not only do I think it means the current players at those positions are not measuring up BUT it means we are worse off than the positions listed above, namely OLB, OL, FS, which I would find hard to believe.

Do you see this as a "defining" draft for the Dallas Cowboys?
All drafts are important drafts, but considering we don't even have a full assortment of picks, no extra picks, and only #18 in round 1, I just can't see this as a defining draft...hopefully we'll find 2-3 players who can eventually start, but last year's draft was our defining draft, imo...you have to have the ammo, and this year we don't. I don't see us coming out of this with any super stars.
 

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I do, but for different reasons.

Will this be the second year in a row we have a decent draft?

Will we revert back to our old ways?

With less regard to picking for need, but for finding guys who are going to make a difference. Those guys that their skills match our needs to the greatest degree. This draft will go a long way to help define our revamped scouting department.

Was last year a fluke? Let's hope not. I don't think it is. I think we are truly on an upswing. And this draft WILL help define which direction we are heading.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
No. Last year was. We switched to a 3-4 D then went out and drafted some players who will be corner stone of that D for years to come.

I agree with you on our picks for tomorrow. We get the OLB and FS we want and our D could be very good. But it all started last year.

But see, last year was "easy". Just go out and get good defensive players. I don't see this year being anywhere close as being "easy" for the Cowboys brain trust to figure out what players to get.
 

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If we can get a lineman that can start and play well immediately, the draft is already a C+ to me. After that get me a FS that can cover and not let guys get behind him and we have addressed what most worries me.

Really - the line and FS are our biggest weaknesses - even moreso than LB.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
But see, last year was "easy". Just go out and get good defensive players. I don't see this year being anywhere close as being "easy" for the Cowboys brain trust to figure out what players to get.
Based on the mock Goose just put out it will be beyond 'easy' this year. Try impossible. All the guys we have been talking about for months will be gone by 18. Filling in the blanks suddenly appears much tougher than I thought. Perhaps you are right. We all know in about 24 hours.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
Based on the mock Goose just put out it will be beyond 'easy' this year. Try impossible. All the guys we have been talking about for months will be gone by 18. Filling in the blanks suddenly appears much tougher than I thought. Perhaps you are right. We all know in about 24 hours.

One of those guys will be there.

Goose is wrong.

Crown Royal is right.

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If the Cowboys felt Goose was right, would you guys trade up a few spots to get the last of the three?

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Would you trade up with Philly and get either Lawson or Carpenter? Would they take a three?
 

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speedkilz88 said:
If the Cowboys felt Goose was right, would you guys trade up a few spots to get the last of the three?

No way. They are all a good value at 18, but using a 15 AND whatever else it would take to move up, you lose value.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
But see, last year was "easy". Just go out and get good defensive players. I don't see this year being anywhere close as being "easy" for the Cowboys brain trust to figure out what players to get.
That is true and that is why this will NOT be the defining draft of the last 10 years. A "defining draft" as I see it is one that you will remember 10 years from now and say that was the year we put ourselves over the top. I have to say that the draft that we will all remember will probably be last year and this year will be a footnote.
 

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it is a defining draft, because we haven't been this close to doing anything in 10 years lol
 

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speedkilz88 said:
If the Cowboys felt Goose was right, would you guys trade up a few spots to get the last of the three?

very good question, remember Jerry Jones said that if a player they really wanted fell within 4 spots, that they would possibly trade up? that also could come into play if it looks like all 3 OLBs that we covet are going to be taken before 18, that we would try to jump some teams for them
 

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I think this draft is the most difficult the Cowboys have faced in this decade. The fact that we did a poor job before the arrival of Parcells has beeen evident by the quality of our drafts of late. However, this year with so many free agents and a team the needs to gel to make the playoffs, the draft becomes very difficult. You may not need to pick a player who provides impact immediately but you do need to draft players who will be developing for the time when the FA's depart or retire. Drafting for 'value' is easy to say and very hard to do.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
But see, last year was "easy". Just go out and get good defensive players. I don't see this year being anywhere close as being "easy" for the Cowboys brain trust to figure out what players to get.
Drafting good D personnel is not something that comes easily to Dallas here lately. oing back to Landry days, we missed as much as we hit on D personnel. See jeff Rohrer (sp?) Ek and others, some might even throw Ellis in there, I would not. But last years draft was really good. I am sure when we drafted EK that we thought we was drafting a better then average player with the intentions of building a good D. Parcells could have screwed it up last year too, just as easily (if not more easily) as he could have hit a home run. Wether luck or due diligence on Irelands part, we came out a winner last year. But based on past draft performances, drafting is not one of the easy things the boys do. We have less picks this year so one could argue that we have less chances of screwing it up. Either way, the best 'picker' in the world would rely on a certain portion of his 'skill' as being just plain ole lucky. When that much lucks involved, its never easy to draft a great class of athletes. Remember, you cant measure heart and drive. See Bill Bates. 28 teams (or however many were in the league then) missed on him.
 

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Every draft is defining ... we just have to make sure we don't **** things up like we did from 95-2003.

Cowboys WILL NOT take a OLB, OT, OG, C, TE, RB, QB, CB, S, FB or DE in the 1st round.

That leaves DT or WR as our first round pick.

We will address the OL with our 2nd round pick onwards.
 
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