Our offense symbolized in one picture

[Szczepanik]

Every time you open a can or tin of Neapolitan ice cream, you get the exact same order of ice cream.

You know where the vanilla will be, and that the chocolate and strawberry are on the outside.

Compare this to our offense. When looking at our offense, you know exactly where Dez will be ( *Don't laugh, but he is our Chocolate). You know where Witten will be ( *again this isn't being racial, but he is our Vanilla) in the middle. T. Will is our Strawberry on the other side until he can further prove himself without body catches.

Opposing defenses look at our arrangement and know exactly where everyone will be, and what they do. We essentially tell the defense, "Hey look, this is what we do, this is how we align ourselves, and you will have to beat us".

At no point the Chocolate and Vanilla swap places, and at no point does the Strawberry swap places with the Vanilla.

This is the problem with our offense. One day we can hope that we will open this can of ice cream, and see chocolate in the middle, with vanilla on the outside.


Sorry guys, it is late and I am hungry.

 

[Tabascocat]

Even though that this is being hashed out in another thread...........I will give you a


+1 for creativity

 

[Roadtrip635]

We also need to sprinkle with nuts, maybe some hot ***** and caramel sauce, some whipped cream and a cherry or two and turn that plain offense into this

 

[Zman5]

Funny you mention this. It looked like the EaGirls defense knew our offense better than our players on Turkey day. Even with the short week, they were well prepared. On most plays, their defenders were on our players like white on rice.

 

[Red Dragon]

I look forward to our Triple Caramel Hazelnut Chocolate Pecan Banana Split offense.

 

[Proximo]

Every time you open a can or tin of Neapolitan ice cream, you get the exact same order of ice cream.

You know where the vanilla will be, and that the chocolate and strawberry are on the outside.

Compare this to our offense. When looking at our offense, you know exactly where Dez will be ( *Don't laugh, but he is our Chocolate). You know where Witten will be ( *again this isn't being racial, but he is our Vanilla) in the middle. T. Will is our Strawberry on the other side until he can further prove himself without body catches.

Opposing defenses look at our arrangement and know exactly where everyone will be, and what they do. We essentially tell the defense, "Hey look, this is what we do, this is how we align ourselves, and you will have to beat us".

At no point the Chocolate and Vanilla swap places, and at no point does the Strawberry swap places with the Vanilla.

This is the problem with our offense. One day we can hope that we will open this can of ice cream, and see chocolate in the middle, with vanilla on the outside.


Sorry guys, it is late and I am hungry.

Can you explain how we've ended up 8-4 and have one of the best offenses in the league if we're soooo predictable that every defense knows exactly what we're doing?

 

[ologan]

Can you explain how we've ended up 8-4 and have one of the best offenses in the league if we're soooo predictable that every defense knows exactly what we're doing?

It's because, even if it is as standard as neopolitan ice cream, and you know exactly what you're getting, if it's executed correctly, you can't stop it!

 

[CF74]

Can you explain how we've ended up 8-4 and have one of the best offenses in the league if we're soooo predictable that every defense knows exactly what we're doing?

How many of those 8 wins were teams above .500?

W - Titans .167
W - Rams .417
W - Saints .417
W - Texans .500
W - Seahawks .667 (But took a dip early and lost 4 games like us, hmmm)
W- Giants .250
W - Jaguars .167
W- Giants .250

1, just like most other seasons post 2009, very impressive...


Now let's examine our losses:

L - 49ers .583
L - Commanders .250 (Had Weeden remained in the game we would have won, he was the hot hand in that one.)
L - Cardinals .750
L - Eagles .750

 

[Szczepanik]

Can you explain how we've ended up 8-4 and have one of the best offenses in the league if we're soooo predictable that every defense knows exactly what we're doing?

Of course I'll explain it. We have some of the best players at their respective positions. Having Murray, Witten, and Dez makes it hard on opposing defenses regardless of the playcall. My point being is that Dez isn't utilized in more slot routes, or more creative ways to get him the ball in positions he can YAC.

Ever wonder why the Commanders, Giants, and Eagles all play pretty good D against us for the most part?

We have played them so many times that they have figured out a way to slow down our O, and we haven't quite adjusted to their blitzing.

 

[TheCount]

How many times, under Garrett, has our offense been called out for being too simple. I've lost count.

Maybe a couple of times is malarkey, but it happens pretty regularly. It'd be one thing if it was just fans and their ice cream analogies, but when you hear it from players?

Is everyone just having the same hallucination or is it plausible that the offensive system here is a complete lack of one.

 

[Idgit]

Sometimes my Neopolitan is chocolate-vanilla-strawberry and sometimes it's strawberry-vanilla-chocolate. When I see it backwards, I'm like 'whoah!' because I'm so surprised. I almost drop the container.

Not really. But I like Neopolitan, so I don't really complain all that much what order the flavors are in as long as they taste good. My defensive ice cream, on the other hand, contains chunks of broken dreams and has been laced with the salt of tears for so long now, I feel silly complaining about the order of the flavors in my Neopolitan.

 

[Idgit]

How many times, under Garrett, has our offense been called out for being too simple. I've lost count.

Maybe a couple of times is malarkey, but it happens pretty regularly. It'd be one thing if it was just fans and their ice cream analogies, but when you hear it from players?

Is everyone just having the same hallucination or is it plausible that the offensive system here is a complete lack of one.

How much does it really matter, though, if it's been relatively productive during that time on a points/series basis? It's not like we haven't seen players or teams in the NFL unfairly criticized if it makes for a better story before. Cue the 'Romo is not clutch' story lines or the 'Dez is a me-first prima-donna who yells at his teammates on the sidelines' stories.

What matters is the actual production, not the criticism which may or may not be founded on anything real.

 

[TwoDeep3]

We also need to sprinkle with nuts,

Deez nutz?

 

[Staubacher]

How many of those 8 wins were teams above .500?

W - Titans .167
W - Rams .417
W - Saints .417
W - Texans .500
W - Seahawks .667 (But took a dip early and lost 4 games like us, hmmm)
W- Giants .250
W - Jaguars .167
W- Giants .250

1, just like most other seasons post 2009, very impressive...


Now let's examine our losses:

L - 49ers .583
L - Commanders .250 (Had Weeden remained in the game we would have won, he was the hot hand in that one.)
L - Cardinals .750
L - Eagles .750

Yet no Weeden disclaimer for the Arizona loss lol

 

[Proximo]

How many of those 8 wins were teams above .500?

W - Titans .167
W - Rams .417
W - Saints .417
W - Texans .500
W - Seahawks .667 (But took a dip early and lost 4 games like us, hmmm)
W- Giants .250
W - Jaguars .167
W- Giants .250

1, just like most other seasons post 2009, very impressive...


Now let's examine our losses:

L - 49ers .583
L - Commanders .250 (Had Weeden remained in the game we would have won, he was the hot hand in that one.)
L - Cardinals .750
L - Eagles .750

Blah blah blah.

None of that proves anything.

The bottom line is- if this offense was as ineffective or predictable as threads like this one make it out to be, there is no way we'd be 8-4 right now.

I'm not saying the offense is perfect- but it's certainly not as bad as some of the fans on here like would like to believe.

 

[TimHortons]

Every time you open a can or tin of Neapolitan ice cream, you get the exact same order of ice cream.

You know where the vanilla will be, and that the chocolate and strawberry are on the outside.

Compare this to our offense. When looking at our offense, you know exactly where Dez will be ( *Don't laugh, but he is our Chocolate). You know where Witten will be ( *again this isn't being racial, but he is our Vanilla) in the middle. T. Will is our Strawberry on the other side until he can further prove himself without body catches.

Opposing defenses look at our arrangement and know exactly where everyone will be, and what they do. We essentially tell the defense, "Hey look, this is what we do, this is how we align ourselves, and you will have to beat us".

At no point the Chocolate and Vanilla swap places, and at no point does the Strawberry swap places with the Vanilla.

This is the problem with our offense. One day we can hope that we will open this can of ice cream, and see chocolate in the middle, with vanilla on the outside.


Sorry guys, it is late and I am hungry.

Strawberry is the best of the 3

 

[CowboyGil]

How many of those 8 wins were teams above .500?

W - Titans .167
W - Rams .417
W - Saints .417
W - Texans .500
W - Seahawks .667 (But took a dip early and lost 4 games like us, hmmm)
W- Giants .250
W - Jaguars .167
W- Giants .250

1, just like most other seasons post 2009, very impressive...


Now let's examine our losses:

L - 49ers .583
L - Commanders .250 (Had Weeden remained in the game we would have won, he was the hot hand in that one.)
L - Cardinals .750
L - Eagles .750

Here we go.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Predictable or not it hasn't worked against better teams. JG thinks like Jimmy, line up and insert your will. Well the problem is obvious,
he doesn't have the team he played for. He just stays the course hoping it will work.

 

[CF74]

Yet no Weeden disclaimer for the Arizona loss lol

How bout Romo blowing the Commander game when Weeden had the hot hand? It works both ways. Had Romo played the Cardinal game they would have retired him. Weeden was hit often while trying to pass it that one...

 

[TheCount]

How much does it really matter, though, if it's been relatively productive during that time on a points/series basis? It's not like we haven't seen players or teams in the NFL unfairly criticized if it makes for a better story before. Cue the 'Romo is not clutch' story lines or the 'Dez is a me-first prima-donna who yells at his teammates on the sidelines' stories.

What matters is the actual production, not the criticism which may or may not be founded on anything real.

"Romo is not clutch" isn't exactly the same thing as a player saying he knew what we were going to do before we did it. One of those things is a very real problem that you can actually do something about.