Our Opponents Are Desperate

percyhoward

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When the Packers tried that onsides kick, it reminded me of how teams would play the Colts the last couple of years. They approached the game with a sense that there was no hope of winning unless they pulled out all the stops, unless they got away from what they normally do.

Last year, when Indy got off to that 9-0 start, they were winning games by narrow margins mainly because they had a huge advantage in turnover ratio, because the opponent felt an urgent need to score on every possession. If the opponent had just stuck to its game, the Colts would have lost some of those games.

This kind of mentality in an opponent is usually self-perpetuating, too. It's risky, it normally doesn't pay off, and it almost always gets them into more trouble trying get out of the mess they put themselves into.

Fun to watch.
 

AmishCowboy

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Yeah, we score TD's :star: not FG's and they feel the pressure to keep up.
 

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percyhoward;1803401 said:
When the Packers tried that onsides kick, it reminded me of how teams would play the Colts the last couple of years. They approached the game with a sense that there was no hope of winning unless they pulled out all the stops, unless they got away from what they normally do.

Last year, when Indy got off to that 9-0 start, they were winning games by narrow margins mainly because they had a huge advantage in turnover ratio, because the opponent felt an urgent need to score on every possession. If the opponent had just stuck to its game, the Colts would have lost some of those games.

This kind of mentality in an opponent is usually self-perpetuating, too. It's risky, it normally doesn't pay off, and it almost always gets them into more trouble trying get out of the mess they put themselves into.

Fun to watch.

I was just going to post that same thing....

Its a great thing fear...makes you do silly things.
 

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Questions for you guys:

Didn't we open the game with a successful onside kick when we played GB in Texas Stadium in 1993? This was when Emmitt came back after his contract holdout.

Any chance that GB wanted revenge as a result?
 

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I think their coach was anticipating us scoring 50 points (we were on a pace for 52 when they tried the onsides kick), so he figured they had nothing to lose.
 

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McCarthey challenging the TO catch on our 1st play was another prime example of what you're talking about Percy, it was clearly a catch, yet McCarthey was hoping to high-hell that the challenge would overturn it
 

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Me thinks we're getting a little full of ourselves here.

First, Favre was intimidated.:rolleyes:

2nd, an on side kick is of desperation. Tell me, which is more likely to succeed, an onside kick when NOONE is expecting it, or one where they are? Good call on McCarthy, Dallas was off guard and were lucky the ball clipped the Packer's arm.

3rdly...what was wrong with the challenge on the first TO catch? You had one ref whistling dead ball and the other ref calling Packer's ball, what the heck? Was it any worse than Wade's challenge on the Fasano drop in the end zone?
 

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jackrussell;1803648 said:
3rdly...what was wrong with the challenge on the first TO catch? You had one ref whistling dead ball and the other ref calling Packer's ball, what the heck? Was it any worse than Wade's challenge on the Fasano drop in the end zone?

he was challenging whether it was a catch, it was
 

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Bob Sacamano;1803661 said:
he was challenging whether it was a catch, it was

So you're saying...just so I'm clear on this...that after you saw the video replays of that particular play, as an opposing coach who has just seen 2 refs rule it 2 different ways, you would not have called for a replay, AND it was worse than Wade's challenge?

And besides, whether it was a good challenge or not, the original point of contention was it being another example of an 'act of desperation', in which I think we'd be kidding ourselves.
 

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We're 2nd in the league (behind NE of course) in touchdowns scored per drive. We're batting .328. That should be pretty alarming for our opponents.
 

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jackrussell;1803674 said:
So you're saying...just so I'm clear on this...that after you saw the video replays of that particular play, as an opposing coach who has just seen 2 refs rule it 2 different ways, you would not have called for a replay, AND it was worse than Wade's challenge?

And besides, whether it was a good challenge or not, the original point of contention was it being another example of an 'act of desperation', in which I think we'd be kidding ourselves.

the point of debate on that catch was whether Al stripped it, not whether TO had possession of it, the refs explained that to him, so he challenged the catch instead

I forgot about Wade's challenge on a pretty indisputable call, so it does lessen whether McCarthey's challenge was induced by desperation
 
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