Our scheme doesn't punish people for blitzing

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We don't run the screen very well, we don't hit running backs in the flats... (only time we do is on these simple curl routes).

Whats worse is we don't pick up the blitz very well.

If we did, and punished teams for being so aggressive, it would open a lot of things up.

P.S. the delayed hand offs on 3-2 are starting to piss me off.
 

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No only Romo gets punished in our scheme...
 

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Part of the reason I wouldn't mind upgrading the center position.

Gurode doesn't get it done in the mental aspects of the game.
 

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Romo has thrown 15 TD passes this year. He has thrown 8 of them when he has been blitzed.
 

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thats on romo, not the scheme...

felix jones would be the ultimate blitz buster, i think everyone realizes that but garrett...

Felix jones should be in on 40-50% of the snaps whether he is rushing or running routes.
 

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Galian Beast;3100187 said:
We don't run the screen very well, we don't hit running backs in the flats... (only time we do is on these simple curl routes).

Whats worse is we don't pick up the blitz very well.

If we did, and punished teams for being so aggressive, it would open a lot of things up.

P.S. the delayed hand offs on 3-2 are starting to piss me off.

So is it scheme or execution?
 

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I still don't understand why Garrett does NOT take a power formation, with either double or even triple tight ends and either run the ball, play action, or do as has beens suggested and get Jones out for a pass. The team does this somewhat in the plays designed to get Ogletree in space.
 

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joseephuss;3100227 said:
Romo has thrown 15 TD passes this year. He has thrown 8 of them when he has been blitzed.

That does not line up very well with the OP. Hmmmm. Who is right?
 

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Galian Beast;3100231 said:
thats on romo, not the scheme...

felix jones would be the ultimate blitz buster, i think everyone realizes that but garrett...

Felix jones should be in on 40-50% of the snaps whether he is rushing or running routes.

The biggest weakness of Felix's game is his ability to pass protect.
 

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joseephuss;3100227 said:
Romo has thrown 15 TD passes this year. He has thrown 8 of them when he has been blitzed.

How many ints has he thrown when blitzed? How many fumbles? How many quick hits for big gains? How many sacks when blitzed? What's his completion percentage when blitzed? What was the situation? First downs? How many were coming on those blitzes? What was the formation? Did Romo check out of a play when he saw the blitz to try and attack it? What was the original call in those cases?

If you're going to throw out something like that like it's the end of the conversation, it may be worth considering there are a lot of other things involved.

If you've watched the game, as most of us do, you'd see that the statement has some truth to it regardless of whether he's thrown "8 TD's when blitzed."
 

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Washington killed our blitzing with a similar play thet Green Bay killed us with the week before. At times, when Dallas would blitz a LB from right up the middle or between the guards/tackles, instead of using their back to pick up that blitz they would send him upfiled between the guard/center and the QB would deliver the ball just before getting hit. Every time, our opponent got majur yards with this. It's kind of like a short streak-screen up the middle without having linemen in front blocking it. And it works because the short-midle of the filed is wide open because the LB left it to blitz.

So I ask, why have we not seen this play with Felix Jones in the lineup? Felix Jones is horrible at picking up blitzes, and teams often blitz us when he is the back. By keeping him back to miss the block on ablitz, we not only lose him as a blocker, we also lose him as a receiver because we utilized him as a blocker insterad. This is where I fault Garrett; if Jones cant block a blitz well, then he should be sent out on these short middle screens on every passing dsown. The problem though is that Garrett does not have tyhese plays in his playbook; he only has the kinds of plays that render Felix Jones useless on virtually all passing downs that he is a part of.
 

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TheCount;3100288 said:
How many ints has he thrown when blitzed? How many fumbles? How many quick hits for big gains? How many sacks when blitzed? What's his completion percentage when blitzed? What was the situation? First downs? How many were coming on those blitzes? What was the formation? Did Romo check out of a play when he saw the blitz to try and attack it? What was the original call in those cases?

If you're going to throw out something like that like it's the end of the conversation, it may be worth considering there are a lot of other things involved.

If you've watched the game, as most of us do, you'd see that the statement has some truth to it regardless of whether he's thrown "8 TD's when blitzed."

I never said it was the end of the conversation. I never even stated my opinion on the subject. I just presented those numbers as part of the conversation. It was never meant to support or oppose the original posters opinions. Just threw something out there. If you think those other stats mean so much then feel free to find them and share them with everyone.

And I do watch the games. Why do you assume I don't? And my opinion on the matter is that I don't think scheme is the problem. It is execution. There have been plenty of opportunities to burn the blitz, but someone misses a block, Romo misses a throw, someone drops a pass or whatever. It is much more about execution than scheme and I feel Dallas can and needs to execute better.
 

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Galian Beast;3100231 said:
felix jones would be the ultimate blitz buster, i think everyone realizes that but garrett...

Felix jones should be in on 40-50% of the snaps whether he is rushing or running routes.

I'm continually amazed to read stuff like this.

Felix can't pass block - he can't pick up the blitz. That's why he doesn't see the field more. Hopefully he'll get better at it, but the idea that putting a RB who can't pass block on the field will somehow help the passing game against the blitz is, frankly, absurd.
 

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TheCount;3100288 said:
How many ints has he thrown when blitzed? How many fumbles? How many quick hits for big gains? How many sacks when blitzed? What's his completion percentage when blitzed? What was the situation? First downs? How many were coming on those blitzes? What was the formation? Did Romo check out of a play when he saw the blitz to try and attack it? What was the original call in those cases?

If you're going to throw out something like that like it's the end of the conversation, it may be worth considering there are a lot of other things involved.

If you've watched the game, as most of us do, you'd see that the statement has some truth to it regardless of whether he's thrown "8 TD's when blitzed."

Romo is 85 of 154 for 1,215 yards when blitzed... or 55% completion percentage, 5Td 3 Int 7.9ypa.... been sacked 16 times for 97yds and has a QB rating of 84... hope this helps.
 

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joseephuss;3100305 said:
I never said it was the end of the conversation. I never even stated my opinion on the subject. I just presented those numbers as part of the conversation. It was never meant to support or oppose the original posters opinions. Just threw something out there. If you think those other stats mean so much then feel free to find them and share them with everyone.

And I do watch the games. Why do you assume I don't? And my opinion on the matter is that I don't think scheme is the problem. It is execution. There have been plenty of opportunities to burn the blitz, but someone misses a block, Romo misses a throw, someone drops a pass or whatever. It is much more about execution than scheme and I feel Dallas can and needs to execute better.

I can understand that and wished you'd just said that. Seems like when someone brings up something like this, people get in line to quote a number that has zero context. I'm not saying you do, but it happens often.
 

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It's funny, I remember TO and Crayton catching big passes against blitzes in 2007. Who could forget the TD Owens caught when Dawkins blitzed from the slot during the game in Philadelphia that year?

Our hot routes leave a lot to be desired these days.
 

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The Realist;3100213 said:
Part of the reason I wouldn't mind upgrading the center position.

Gurode doesn't get it done in the mental aspects of the game.

This is a foolish statement for obvious reasons.
 

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TheCount;3100328 said:
I can understand that and wished you'd just said that. Seems like when someone brings up something like this, people get in line to quote a number that has zero context. I'm not saying you do, but it happens often.

Eloquence is not my strong suit especially when my phone rings and I have to actually get some real life work done.
 

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People are talking blitz but what kind of blitz? That plays a key role in who the hot man is. Are we talking a LB blitz, Corner blitz, safety blitz or my favorite a zone blitz which is really not a blitz? Throwing out the word blitz and talking about how to beat it really depends on what you are talking about in terms of blitz
 

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jimnabby;3100307 said:
I'm continually amazed to read stuff like this.

Felix can't pass block - he can't pick up the blitz. That's why he doesn't see the field more. Hopefully he'll get better at it, but the idea that putting a RB who can't pass block on the field will somehow help the passing game against the blitz is, frankly, absurd.

Which makes our offense all that much more predictable. Felix is on the field, what % is run vs. pass.
Defense knows all of that, if the defensive coordinater did his job.
Which seems they have the past few weeks.
 
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