JackWagon;4361615 said:And im taking the over.
He has to have a breakout year in 2012 or be labeled a 1st round bust.
Brian_C82;4361634 said:Dez has virtually the same number of yards and touchdowns as Terrell Owens at the same point in their career. Look it up. He's on track to be a superstar.
DBOY3141;4361733 said:At the end of the day, who cares. No of these guys are my role models or my kids role models.
Irvin was a coke head, yet brought 3 rings.
I could care less if bryant buys 10 million worth of chains and ear rings and doesn't pay.
Catch the ball and score TD's. Dez is a good football player, don't really care what type of person he is.
If character mattered, there would be no NFL.
dboy214;4361668 said:according to ben/skin and JTT he was fined over 100k this past season by the team for constantly being late but they kept it all under wraps and eventually didn't make him pay it.
i say over.
DBOY3141;4361769 said:I'm saying character doesn't matter. I'm saying most of the folks in the NFL don't have good character. They are good football players, but outside the lines I'm sure most are knuckleheads.
I don't care how hard you work at your job, if you get drunk and drive or smoke weed or don't pay your bills....you have no character.
Dez, like Irvin is a good football player, but both are knuckleheads.
yeah i know what you mean, which is why i said "according to...".BraveHeartFan;4361817 said:I hate things like this. Which isn't your fault but things like this from the media are just junk. They have no way to show that they can verify that, and will always hide behind the "We don't reveal" crap so that they can say stuff like this that, as a fan, I can see just as easily being completely made up as I can see it being true.
Now I'm not saying there is no shot that this is true, cause there is always a shot things like this are true, I just hate when media people put junk like this out there in such a way because there is no way to verify it's validity.
BraveHeartFan;4361817 said:I hate things like this. Which isn't your fault but things like this from the media are just junk. They have no way to show that they can verify that, and will always hide behind the "We don't reveal" crap so that they can say stuff like this that, as a fan, I can see just as easily being completely made up as I can see it being true.
Now I'm not saying there is no shot that this is true, cause there is always a shot things like this are true, I just hate when media people put junk like this out there in such a way because there is no way to verify it's validity.
dboy214;4361835 said:yeah i know what you mean, which is why i said "according to...".
but i trust todd archer, and he was involved in the discussion as well.
the audio is on *********'s website.
DBOY3141;4361769 said:I'm saying character doesn't matter. I'm saying most of the folks in the NFL don't have good character. They are good football players, but outside the lines I'm sure most are knuckleheads.
I don't care how hard you work at your job, if you get drunk and drive or smoke weed or don't pay your bills....you have no character.
Dez, like Irvin is a good football player, but both are knuckleheads.