Overshown has been one of the bright spots all year

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Why do some of yall act "injury prone" doesn’t exist. If he's missed some time at every point in his career, then it doesn’t matter how it happened, it's that it happened. It reminds me of when some fans tried to say Romo wasn't injury proned. Lol wth

Would you call someone "accident prone" if they're driving safely, and other people keep running into their car?

 

[jwitten82]

Would you call someone "accident prone" if they're driving safely, and other people keep running into their car?

Yes, if you're getting into accidents every damn time, then yes you're accident prone. Being prone to something doesn't automatically make it your fault

 

[SwagSurfer]

This hurts. Been an overshown fan since Texas. I hate that the injury bug is always attacking him.

 

[glimmerman]

The way he was coming off the field I would say he is done for the season.. At least we know he is a good player. Injuries happen.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Would you call someone "accident prone" if they're driving safely, and other people keep running into their car?

Yes, driving safe it would be a statistical abnormality to be getting into multiple accidents on a consistent basis. Sometimes you can do everything right but are likely still doing something to increase the odds of that accident. It could be time of day they are driving, not having awareness of the cars driving into you, or driving too conservatively in an area where everyone else is doing 10-15 miles over the limit.

For Overshown its probably something similar. Is he doing anything wrong? Not that I see. But with that said does he naturally play a position that causes him to have a high amount of collisions? Yes. Is he undersized for the position he plays? Not to an extreme, but yes.

Last nights injury seems to be a fluke thing that could happen to anyone, but he is also a smaller body that is in position on the field to take linemen rolling into his legs nearly every snap.

I wouldnt be surprised at all if a new DC looks at how to get Overshown in more of a hybrid position.

 

[HanD]

Why do some of yall act "injury prone" doesn’t exist. If he's missed some time at every point in his career, then it doesn’t matter how it happened, it's that it happened. It reminds me of when some fans tried to say Romo wasn't injury proned. Lol wth

5 games in college over 5 seasons is not a historical basis for saying he is injury prone or was coming out of college. so far in his nfl career, sure have at it, he's had two knee injuries and his nfl career has been injury prone. but to say that this was existing from college and he's always been injury prone with a history is absolutely false and made up. THAT was what i was responding to.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

This injury really sucks. He’s a baller.

 

[jwitten82]

The way he was coming off the field I would say he is done for the season.. At least we know he is a good player. Injuries happen.

If this is another serious injury, it might affect his speed. This might be the best we've seen of him

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Yes, driving safe it would be a statistical abnormality to be getting into multiple accidents on a consistent basis. Sometimes you can do everything right but are likely still doing something to increase the odds of that accident. It could be time of day they are driving, not having awareness of the cars driving into you, or driving too conservatively in an area where everyone else is doing 10-15 miles over the limit.

For Overshown its probably something similar. Is he doing anything wrong? Not that I see. But with that said does he naturally play a position that causes him to have a high amount of collisions? Yes. Is he undersized for the position he plays? Not to an extreme, but yes.

Last nights injury seems to be a fluke thing that could happen to anyone, but he is also a smaller body that is in position on the field to take linemen rolling into his legs nearly every snap.

I wouldnt be surprised at all if a new DC looks at how to get Overshown in more of a hybrid position.

Yes, if you're getting into accidents every damn time, then yes you're accident prone. Being prone to something doesn't automatically make it your fault

My point is, that's not what "prone" means. Prone is defined as something that's likely to happen, because of something causing it to likely happen. So for example, if he injured his knee because it was partially torn from birth... that's prone.

He doesn't have a long history of major injuries, so freak injuries don't count.

I get it though, to yall every player is weak or fragile. Anything to make yall feel better about yourselves...

 

[jwitten82]

My point is, that's not what "prone" means. Prone is defined as something that's likely to happen, because of something causing it to likely happen. So for example, if he injured his knee because it was partially torn from birth... that's prone.

He doesn't have a long history of major injuries, so freak injuries don't count.

I get it though, to yall every player is weak or fragile. Anything to make yall feel better about yourselves...

Never said every player was weak or fragile, plenty of players arent. Lee and Overshown fall into the injury prone category

 

[thunderpimp91]

My point is, that's not what "prone" means. Prone is defined as something that's likely to happen, because of something causing it to likely happen. So for example, if he injured his knee because it was partially torn from birth... that's prone.

He doesn't have a long history of major injuries, so freak injuries don't count.

I get it though, to yall every player is weak or fragile. Anything to make yall feel better about yourselves...

No it has nothing to do with him being weak or fragile, its that hes listed at 6'2" 220LBS playing LB in the NFL. Granted players weight can change all throughout the years and in season, but that would make him the 2nd smallest LB in the league behind Jamien Sherwood. That alone puts him in a high risk category for injury and it is of no fault of his own. Similar situation with Parsons. I don't consider him to be soft, weak, or fragile, but its a given that he is small for the position he plays and is less likely to make it through a full season than a guy like Myles Garrett. This is simply the trade off for getting smaller, explosive players on the field.

By your definition though from your knee tear example Overshown would be injury prone as he is coming off an ACL tear. Someone with an ACL tear is at a higher risk to tear their ACL again, both in the injured knee and the other knee as well. With a second knee injury in as many years he will for sure be given the injury prone label.

 

[reddyuta]

I feel sick,he was one bright spot of the season and now we don't know if he will ever play again.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

No it has nothing to do with him being weak or fragile, its that hes listed at 6'2" 220LBS playing LB in the NFL. Granted players weight can change all throughout the years and in season, but that would make him the 2nd smallest LB in the league behind Jamien Sherwood. That alone puts him in a high risk category for injury and it is of no fault of his own. Similar situation with Parsons. I don't consider him to be soft, weak, or fragile, but its a given that he is small for the position he plays and is less likely to make it through a full season than a guy like Myles Garrett. This is simply the trade off for getting smaller, explosive players on the field.

By your definition though from your knee tear example Overshown would be injury prone as he is coming off an ACL tear. Someone with an ACL tear is at a higher risk to tear their ACL again, both in the injured knee and the other knee as well. With a second knee injury in as many years he will for sure be given the injury prone label.

So every player that has more than one injury is injury prone?

Myles Garrett is an athletic freak and has more of a football and car accident injury history than Overshown. I guess by your definition, Garrett's even more injury prone than Overshown.

 

[thunderpimp91]

So every player that has more than one injury is injury prone?

Myles Garrett is an athletic freak and has more of a football and car accident injury history than Overshown. I guess by your definition, Garrett's even more injury prone than Overshown.

Not necessarily, I made that comparison from your example of a knee issue at birth. A birth defect of the knee or multiple surgeries on the knee are both likely to leave that area vulnerable to future injury though, and it will make Overshown a high risk player due to the severity of back to back injuries....especially within the first 24 months which is typically the highest reinjury risk time frame for most major injuries.

In a high collision sport like football size, age, playing style, etc all factor into a players level of injury risk.

Myles Garrett I wouldn't put in the high risk zone....or at least yet. As he gets into his 30s his odds of missing time will really start to go up, but hes a guy who has only missed 2 games since 2020. Overshown on the other hand with season ending surgery will have missed over 60% of his games through 2 years, still has a size issue for the position he plays, and will be coming off his second major surgery. He is in an extremely high risk category that if he is able to play week 1 of next season Jerry should be prioritizing finding depth at the LB spot and not count on him for 17 games.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Many prayers and wishes to Overshown. My favorite Dallas Cowboy player is now gone for the season-maybe next season or even forever. I don't care if we win or lose moving forward this season. If I were the coach, I'd sit all my starters and most of the good backups. Lance would be my starting quarterback for the rest of the season. He's either going to prove he's a NFL quarterback or join Rush elsewhere. Rush in no way as in hell would be my backup next season. It has to be NFL vets or rookies coming out next season way better than this clown. I also blame the fatazzz defensive linemen for Overshown getting hurt. Those sorry suckers had done their job -Overshown would have never gotten hurt. This is another spot I'd draft and free agent all day next season. We got so many spots on defense to fix. I'd be pretty much ready to make the next draft all defense. Free agent everything else. Just need to rant. I feel horrible today with Overshown going down. Man...I ask every Dallas Fan to keep him in your prayers. I know he's not like a family member, but I loved the way he played out there. One of the few players that played with pride and emotion. And I hope he comes back even stronger- hopefully next year.. Just another reason for me to hate the Bengals and Jerry Jones. What was so hard about giving Overshown number zero. We have a black cat in the org. Bringing all the bad luck and bad news we're getting as Dallas fans. And that black cat name is Jerry Jones. As long as he is in power. I look for bad things to continue to be bad and get worse. Jerry is bad Karma. And the team is paying for it.......