Packers vs Classless Vikings

Doomsday101

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FloridaRob;2994178 said:
most other teams feel that way but the Vikings organization is obsessed with the Packers. Always have been and always will be. They are a 2nd rate organization that has lives to try to one-up the Packers and consistently fail miserably.

If I was a packer fan I would take it as a compliment that another team in my division is obsessed with my team. I bet the Vike do not look at the Lions that way. Vikes are an NFL team trying to make it to the show and to get there they understand you have to take down the biggest threat in the division which has been the packers.
 

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I'm not sure how obsessed the Vikings are with the Packers, they seem more obsessed with going to the Super Bowl to me.

Honestly, it seems to me like Packer fans are more obsessed with the Vikings, who looked pretty damn good last night, by the way.
 

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FloridaRob;2993528 said:
Well the day is finally here. The long time beloved leader of the Packers is going to suit up against his former team in the colors of their hated enemy. Of all the teams in the league we could accept him playing for, this one is not it. They are the Packers most hated rival. The Bears are a great rival who actually respect each other. They go about their business the right way. The Vikings on the other hand are a classless organization who can't build a team on their own but have to get former Packer players on their roster in their attempt to be successful.

How funny is it that the Vikings need a new stadium in the worse way and their best chance of getting one is by riding the coattails of the most famous Packer to ever play. Still with all the shenanigans the Vikings have pulled, it took a field goal miss last year by the Packers to keep the Vikings from losing 6 games in a row.

They have the biggest case of envy a football team could have. Maybe the Jets are up there in trying to always one-up the Patriots but the Vikings methods put them in a classless class all their own. Their obsession with the Packers is beyond anything healthy. Examples over the past 20 yrs alone are the Vikings put a no 4 on a blocking dummy, signed Packer free agents as soon as they went on the market at ridiculous contracts, were so scared that their choice for head coach might actually prefer Green Bay to Minnesota that they hurriedly performed a couple of sham interviews to satisfy the league just so he would not leave the building, (thank God for that) signed Aaron Kampman to an offer sheet, cheated their way thru the StarCaps mess, lied and tampered with Favre while he was still property of the Packers and of course lied their way out of it, head coach runs off the field to ignore the customary handshake after his team lost another game to the Packers, the love-boat episode, and so on and so on. They really are the depths of a classless franchise.

So tonight everybody is picking the Vikings to win. They may do it. But it won't be because of FAvre. If the Packers O-line can not block the Viking D-line it will be a long night for the Packers. The College-Allen matchup will determine the outcome, not Favre vs anything else. As hyped as the game is tonight, teh November 1 game at Lambeau will be 100 x worse. Bratt Favre has contributed mightly to his tarnished legacy as a Packer with his manipulative ways over the past 15 months and and will probably take years for PackerNation to welcome him back. He does not need to worry about his legacy anymore. He has destroyed it by himself.

If by some miracle, the Vikings win a Super Bowl under Favre, the league should give them a fake Super Bowl trophy because having to win it with a legendary Packer just makes the win a cheap immitation. Just like the whole organization.....


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Dude get over it. What a load of crap. Players come and go. They go to other teams. They go to rivals of other teams. The Packers didn't have to let Favre go. They chose to move on when they thought he wasn't coming back. When he wanted to they didn't want him anymore. Nothing wrong with that. Time to move. But they, and their fans, can't cry about him deciding to play for someone else. That's silly.

I'm sure it stings even more after he lit your defense up last night as well.


FloridaRob;2993550 said:
that bus is full up. Nobody is picking Green Bay. The only solace I find in that is that whenever two pretty good teams are playing and everybody is on one side, that side more times than not ends up laying an egg. And if Favre is amped up like many of us expect, then that may be a good night for the Packers. Hopefully he comes out bombing away like he did in the Dallas game a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately for you he did come out and throw a couple nice deep balls. He had a great night and your O-Line was completely destroyed by the best defensive line in football, IMO. Jared Allen is an absolute monster.

Rodger proved last night though, for anyone not sure, that he's obviously a darn good QB. He was awesome with what little help he got. I see nothing for him to be ashamed of. The better team won last night and that allowed Brett Favre to be the better QB last night.


Doomsday101;2993587 said:
I hold nothing aginst Favre he wanted to play and the Vikes brought him in. I can see how Packer fans would be upset with him, why anyone else is I don't get it.

Exactly. The man still wanted to play. Should he have made his decisions faster? Sure that would have been nice but he's human and as human's we're all afforded the right to take as much time to make a decision as we want or is possible with the job we do. The Vikes obviously had no issue allowing him to take till August to make the decision. Therefor I have no problem with him making the decision to comeback. If it's what he wanted to do then go for it.


ArmyCowboy;2993598 said:
So why exactly are the Vikings classless?

I must have missed the reasoning in the OP.

Cause they dared to have Favre on their team. They dared to pick up a good player who used to play somewhere else.


FloridaRob;2993646 said:
lets see, StarCaps, Whizzinator, Love-Boat, Tampering, a head coach running off the field to keep from the customary mid-field handshake, Childress actually questioning McCarthys systems and schemes after Childress finally won a game, riding the coattails of a former Packer to get a community tax for a new stadium, and a number of other questionalbe organizaton decisions. ***** Envy is alive and well in Minneapolis. They want to be the Packers. If they can't they want to be a cheap immitation....

Yeah and how many of those players and people from Love-Boat and junk are still there? Different coach, different players, yawn.

Did you guys have ***** Envy of Philly when you snatched up Reggie White and brought him in to help you become a better defense?

How bout when you signed Andre Rison in order to help your receiving core the year you won the Superbowl? Envy of the Falcons?

Please. Free Agents leave. They play on other teams. It's part of the NFL.


FloridaRob;2993814 said:
uh, no! I am a Packer fan. I guess you did not get the memo. The Cowboy during those years at least did things their own way tho. They never were trying to piggy back off another team to have their success. Right or wrong, the Cowboys have a few trophies to back up their way of doing business. The Vikings don't have anything but an envious organization whose only goal in one-up the Packers.


We did it on our own? Our own way? Huh. I could have swore we took Charles Haley from San Fransico to put it over the top.

Oh, why, yes we did.

And then there was the signing of Deion Sanders in 1995 just so we could take him away from San Fran. Why, look at that, we did it again there. Signed free agents from other teams, traded for players from other teams. How dare we do that! SO CLASSLESS!! EVIL!

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BrAinPaiNt;2993626 said:
I will be watching House, Heroes and Lie To me.

Screw the packers and vikings.:D

Sounds like my night also.....stop copying me :laugh2:

FloridaRob;2994275 said:
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replace the qbs on the field last night and the Packers are beat a lot worse. Rodgers made the plays he made because he was able to get away from the rush every now and then. FAvre would have been killed.

Favre played his butt of tho and you have to give him credit. I wish that the Packers had an O-lne just to show how talented Rodgers really is. THe hype around the next game at Lambeau will be epic and 1000 x worse than last night. Hopefully it is freezing. I was at a game at Lambeau on a Monday Night early November a few years ago and it was 10 degrees. Hopefully it will be the same that night.
 

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Are the Saints a classless org because 6 or so of their players got busted with the starcaps opposed to two players trying to cut weight to get a pay bonus?
 

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FloridaRob;2996418 said:
replace the qbs on the field last night and the Packers are beat a lot worse. Rodgers made the plays he made because he was able to get away from the rush every now and then. FAvre would have been killed.

Favre played his butt of tho and you have to give him credit. I wish that the Packers had an O-lne just to show how talented Rodgers really is. THe hype around the next game at Lambeau will be epic and 1000 x worse than last night. Hopefully it is freezing. I was at a game at Lambeau on a Monday Night early November a few years ago and it was 10 degrees. Hopefully it will be the same that night.

No doubt about that. Minn going to Green Bay will be the bigger game.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2995863 said:
Cause they dared to have Favre on their team. They dared to pick up a good player who used to play somewhere else.




Yeah and how many of those players and people from Love-Boat and junk are still there? Different coach, different players, yawn.

Did you guys have ***** Envy of Philly when you snatched up Reggie White and brought him in to help you become a better defense?

How bout when you signed Andre Rison in order to help your receiving core the year you won the Superbowl? Envy of the Falcons?

Please. Free Agents leave. They play on other teams. It's part of the NFL.

because the Packers are not obsessed with other teams and neither are the Cowboys. since the early 90s the Bears and the Vikings have both been obsessed with Green Bay. Lovie Smith when Hired did not talk about winning the Super Bowl, he talked about beating Green Bay. At least Lovie has been respectful in trying to beat the Packers and that rivalry is one of respect.

You don't hear about them tampering with players for the Packers, you don't hear about them putting poison pills into contracts that other teams could do but don't because it disrepects the process, you don't see their coach running off the field because he was pissed off he lost a game, you dont see players intentionally go after players knees like Allen did last year, you don't see Randy Moss moon the fans, and on and on and on. It is just not the past few years I get these observations but from years of seeing what goes on from that franchise. They are classless, not because of what they do but because of how they go about it.
 

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FloridaRob;2996818 said:
because the Packers are not obsessed with other teams and neither are the Cowboys. since the early 90s the Bears and the Vikings have both been obsessed with Green Bay. Lovie Smith when Hired did not talk about winning the Super Bowl, he talked about beating Green Bay. At least Lovie has been respectful in trying to beat the Packers and that rivalry is one of respect.

You don't hear about them tampering with players for the Packers, you don't hear about them putting poison pills into contracts that other teams could do but don't because it disrepects the process, you don't see their coach running off the field because he was pissed off he lost a game, you dont see players intentionally go after players knees like Allen did last year, you don't see Randy Moss moon the fans, and on and on and on. It is just not the past few years I get these observations but from years of seeing what goes on from that franchise. They are classless, not because of what they do but because of how they go about it.

Fair enough.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2996872 said:
Hey FloridaRob, what are the feelings on McCarthy with the Packer fanbase?

It is mixed but I think most support him. There is that lunatic fringe that believe they should have kept FAvre regardless of his antics and a young QB that needed to play, and because they did not Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy should be fired. I know that MM has the full support of Ted Thompson and President Mark Murphy.

With that said, they believe he better fix the offensive line. It looks like they will re-sign Mark Tauscher who was said to have a great workout today 11 months after an injury, and getting Clifton back next week will do wonders for the line. James Campen is the offenisve line coach and he is the coach most on the hotseat.

I personally like Mike McCarthy as a head coach. He has developed Aaron Rodgers into a very good QB with the potential to be great. And Packer fans (except for the Favre Fringe) love Aaron Rodgers and look forward to him progressing. Even if the team falls apart the rest of the year and I don't think they will, McCarthy would have another year. I still expect the Packers to compete for the North Championship. Winning against the Vikings in the Dome is always tought and last night without a line and with the Favre love it was as tough as it could be. And yet, if Donald Lee does not drop a TD pass, they are still in it at the end. I look forward to the rematch in Lambeau. By that time hopefully Batlimore and Pittsburgh will give Dom Capers a blueprint on how to get to FAvre. Capers played so conservatively last night it was insane. I guess he pickd his poison and while holding AP to minimal yardage, allowed the old fossil to sit in his rocking chair with all day to throw it. Next time I hope it is dfferent.
 

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Thanks, Rob. Just wondering because here when we went from 13-3 to 9-7, it was the biggest disaster in history... I can't imagine if we went 6-10.

So I applaud your patience.

And yeah, the Vikes are stacked with talent. They're going to be tough to beat. Personally, I bet this is the year Favre gets hurt.
 
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