Pacman and Glenn are our jokers...

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The wild cards in our deck of cards. At CB, we have 3 guys that have been regular starters, TNew, Henry, and Pacman. At WR, we have 3 guys that have been regular starters, TO, Crayton, and Glenn.

In the past, we have used TNew at the slot position, and the actual 3rd CB on the outside. With this being the case, my hope is for Pacman to beat out Henry, then we can use Henry as that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran CB and save some wear and tear on him. In this case, Pacman might have to earn this role by midseason, but it is something that would be better for the whole season.

I'm not a fan of Crayton as our #2 WR at all, and haven't really thought about how Glenn could help us in his present state......til now. Instead of starting Glenn, use him has that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran WR and save some wear and tear on him also. Since Crayton is better in the slot anyway, he can move to this position, or of course TO can move around.

Glenn and Henry would be playing on the outside off the bench cause they are made of glass, starters would be Pacman and Crayton. Decent idea or have I smoked too much crack today....
 

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Deep_Freeze;2135784 said:
The wild cards in our deck of cards. At CB, we have 3 guys that have been regular starters, TNew, Henry, and Pacman. At WR, we have 3 guys that have been regular starters, TO, Crayton, and Glenn.

In the past, we have used TNew at the slot position, and the actual 3rd CB on the outside. With this being the case, my hope is for Pacman to beat out Henry, then we can use Henry as that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran CB and save some wear and tear on him. In this case, Pacman might have to earn this role by midseason, but it is something that would be better for the whole season.

I'm not a fan of Crayton as our #2 WR at all, and haven't really thought about how Glenn could help us in his present state......til now. Instead of starting Glenn, use him has that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran WR and save some wear and tear on him also. Since Crayton is better in the slot anyway, he can move to this position, or of course TO can move around.

Glenn and Henry would be playing on the outside off the bench cause they are made of glass, starters would be Pacman and Crayton. Decent idea or have I smoked too much crack today....

Well, I actually agree with most of what you say... which means that crack must not be as bad for your brain as the Partnership for a Drug Free America would lead us to believe. Nice job at bucking the establishment. :D
 

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Tovya;2135785 said:
Well, I actually agree with most of what you say... which means that crack must not be as bad for your brain as the Partnership for a Drug Free America would lead us to believe. Nice job at bucking the establishment. :D
Yeah, I was bored so why not....:D
 

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smoked to much crack, but thats okay we all do it. Just give me your address and i'll send some help
 

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Deep_Freeze;2135784 said:
regular starters, TNew, Henry, and Pacman. At WR, we have 3 guys that have been regular starters, TO, Crayton, and Glenn.

I agree on the DB's - that will be our starting 3.... if not in game 1... then a few games later... except it will be Tnew, Pac, Henry.



Deep_Freeze;2135784 said:
my hope is for Pacman to beat out Henry, then we can use Henry as that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran CB and save some wear and tear on him. In this case, Pacman might have to earn this role by midseason, but it is something that would be better for the whole season.

I have little doubt that Pac will beat out Henry. And like you mentioned we need to protect Henry... he is good and we can save him by making him 3rd CB. I know its unpopular on here.... but I think Pac already has the #2 position by way of talent/youth/intangible.



Deep_Freeze;2135784 said:
I'm not a fan of Crayton as our #2 WR at all, and haven't really thought about how Glenn could help us in his present state......til now. Instead of starting Glenn, use him has that outside 3rd rather fragile veteran WR and save some wear and tear on him also. Since Crayton is better in the slot anyway, he can move to this position, or of course TO can move around.

Not a fan of Crayton at #2?.... well thats good... cause he never was and never will be. Glenn is really a waste at this point. I hope Austin, Hurd or Stanback or someone beats him out.... enough is enough....


Deep_Freeze;2135784 said:
Glenn and Henry would be playing on the outside off the bench cause they are made of glass, starters would be Pacman and Crayton. Decent idea or have I smoked too much crack today....

Nah... you aint smokin nothing... and if you are... so am I.... so is Jerry and company :D
 

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YoMick;2135799 said:
Not a fan of Crayton at #2?.... well thats good... cause he never was and never will be. Glenn is really a waste at this point. I hope Austin, Hurd or Stanback or someone beats him out.... enough is enough....

Nah... you aint smokin nothing... and if you are... so am I.... so is Jerry and company :D

I was trying to be nice about Crayton and his #2 status, we didn't have a choice but I was against the thought all last season......even when he played well I was saying that he still isn't the compliment that TO needs. Now the thought is common place I guess.

Can't really say Austin, Hurd, or Stanback are the answer right away either, but I guess we can dream. Our most realistic chance is Glenn, and if we can protect him by not overplaying him, maybe that can come true.

And...one more joining the party.....cool 4th. ;)
 

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I feel that AJ will be great for us. He has a great support base and I feel that he will return to being an elite player in the very near future. That was a great pick up and one that we will benefit from for a long time.

As far as Glenn......I am getting to the point that I feel it might not even be worth the risk. What happens if he is having a great season and then he steps wrong and gets hurt again? The young guys will have been limited in game experieince and then they will be thrown into the fire again. I say go with TO and the young guys and let Glenn walk down the road.
 

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I agree that Pacman and Glenn can very well be important cogs that can bring Dallas over the top. I believe that there should be one (or two) others.

Even though they are rookies, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice will be pressured to contribute early and often. The running game cannot solely rely on Marion Barber.
 

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Tovya;2135785 said:
Well, I actually agree with most of what you say... which means that crack must not be as bad for your brain as the Partnership for a Drug Free America would lead us to believe. Nice job at bucking the establishment. :D

:laugh2:
 

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I think Pacman is a solid player, given he stays out of trouble. I expect him to start.

Having said that, I think Crayton CAN play the so-called "#2 receiver" spot.... but I think that's all semantics.

When it comes down to it, this team has more than 1 "#2 receiver". We just need our players to compete and then give the starting spots to those players.

Sure, T.O. is the "#1 reciver"...Still, he could be the 3rd or 4th read on any given play. Let's not forget Witten will be a big factor in the passing game as well.
 

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Ben_n_austin;2135840 said:
I think Pacman is a solid player, given he stays out of trouble. I expect him to start.

Having said that, I think Crayton CAN play the so-called "#2 receiver" spot.... but I think that's all semantics.

When it comes down to it, this team has more than 1 "#2 receiver". We just need our players to compete and then give the starting spots to those players.

Sure, T.O. is the "#1 reciver"...Still, he could be the 3rd or 4th read on any given play. Let's not forget Witten will be a big factor in the passing game as well.

Exactly. It's T.O., then Witten, and then whoever else can get open, so the receiver spot is well covered.

I wouldn't trade T.O. and Witten for any other one-two-punch in the NFL... we are very blessed to be in such a scenario.

I love your Moxie sig BTW... I think Moxie ranks up there in the 'just-plain-nasty' category with Kava Kava Root Juice and KM Health Tonic. Blah. :D
 

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Actually I love when TO is in the slot, when he's running crossing routes in the middle of the field, he is virtually unguardable. With him and Witten creating mismatches with linebackers/safeties in the middle of the field, the outside will open up for Crayton/Austin/Glenn since they are too small to go down the middle anyways IMHO. With that being said, I hope we are going to have packages that will be constantly changing to keep the defense on their heels. With wide receiver probably being our thinnest position if we don't have Terry Glenn's services, it's Jason Garret's job to play to our strengths--and I still think we should run the ball more and control the clock better ala Cowboys of the 90s, epecially when we have the lead.

in 2007/2008,
we threw the ball 531 times with 19 interceptions (217 first downs)
we ran the ball 419 times with only 5 lost fumbles (322 first downs)

of course, you score more touchdowns through the air (36 versus 14). So, that's the other side of the argument.

Go Cowboys :starspin
 

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yentl911;2135817 said:
I feel that AJ will be great for us. He has a great support base and I feel that he will return to being an elite player in the very near future. That was a great pick up and one that we will benefit from for a long time.

As far as Glenn......I am getting to the point that I feel it might not even be worth the risk. What happens if he is having a great season and then he steps wrong and gets hurt again? The young guys will have been limited in game experieince and then they will be thrown into the fire again. I say go with TO and the young guys and let Glenn walk down the road.

Hmmm, even if Glenn missteps and gets hurt, you are still dealing with young guys that have limited game experience regardless of when in the season you have to deal with it.

Manster68;2135820 said:
I agree that Pacman and Glenn can very well be important cogs that can bring Dallas over the top. I believe that there should be one (or two) others.

Even though they are rookies, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice will be pressured to contribute early and often. The running game cannot solely rely on Marion Barber.

Of course rookies have to be included, but I didn't cause you don't really know what to expect from them, just too unpredictable at this point. With Barber's style of running, they must contribute alot, no question there.

Tovya;2135895 said:
Exactly. It's T.O., then Witten, and then whoever else can get open, so the receiver spot is well covered.

I wouldn't trade T.O. and Witten for any other one-two-punch in the NFL... we are very blessed to be in such a scenario.

Well, there is a difference between being very good and great. Instead of having whoever else can get open, it would be good to have not just another guy there. Better to have someone who is accomplished in his own right, and can cause problems for the defense with his presence.

alby;2135923 said:
Actually I love when TO is in the slot, when he's running crossing routes in the middle of the field, he is virtually unguardable. With him and Witten creating mismatches with linebackers/safeties in the middle of the field, the outside will open up for Crayton/Austin/Glenn since they are too small to go down the middle anyways IMHO. With that being said, I hope we are going to have packages that will be constantly changing to keep the defense on their heels. With wide receiver probably being our thinnest position if we don't have Terry Glenn's services, it's Jason Garret's job to play to our strengths--and I still think we should run the ball more and control the clock better ala Cowboys of the 90s, epecially when we have the lead.

in 2007/2008,
we threw the ball 531 times with 19 interceptions (217 first downs)
we ran the ball 419 times with only 5 lost fumbles (322 first downs)

of course, you score more touchdowns through the air (36 versus 14). So, that's the other side of the argument.

Go Cowboys :starspin

Nice to say that we should be like the 90's Cowboys and run the ball more, but they did have the all time leading rusher and one of the best OLs of all time. We don't have that now. Times have changed, points are produced in the passing game.

Controlling the clock is better done when you have the lead, and the best way to get the lead is by chunking it. Thats why having Barber fresh at the end was such a weapon last year, and it is also why I'm not too excited to see his role changing this season.
 

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I've always thought that Glenn would be the perfect slot receiver, and Henry would be a great free safety, but we have one of those already.
 
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