PacMan decision to come before camp

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PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Suspended Tennessee Titans cornerback Pacman Jones might know by July whether he'll be playing NFL games in 2008.


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"I'll make a decision prior to the start of training camp," commissioner Roger Goodell said of possibly reinstating Jones, who was suspended for last season for violations of the personal-conduct policy. "I have seen some of his recent comments … and some of those comments were encouraging. I have always said he has to accept responsibility for his actions."

Jones stood outside the church doors at Word of Faith Ministries on Tuesday, passing out almost 500 boxes of food and toiletries to needy families , a church in an impoverished area on the west side of Atlanta where his aunt and uncle are members. He said the church was a perfect place to pay homage to a community that has given him the most support.

Jones teamed up with Feed the Children, a nonprofit relief organization that delivers food, medicine and clothing to the poor.

The troubled cornerback is trying clean up his image, hoping this good deed for his hometown of Atlanta will be another step toward showing he's worthy of reinstatement to the league that suspended him for numerous arrests.

During his time away from the playing field, Jones said he has learned from his actions and cut out all the "knuckle heads" in his life. He just wants the chance to atone for his mistakes, turning to his faith for guidance.

"In the Bible it says, 'Let the past be the past and move on to the future,'" Jones said. "I think for my situation, God did everything for a reason. Yes, I made a lot of bad mistakes. And I owned up to them. I want to tell the kids everything I went through, so they won't have to."

Goodell, who includes Jones' status among a plethora of topics he touched on at the owners meetings Monday, offered his most pointed comments yet on whether Jones' suspension will cross over into a second season.

Jones wants to play for the Cowboys and Dallas apparently wants to acquire him, but a source close to the negotiations has told ESPN's Ed Werder that trade talks have stalled over the issue of compensation.

A Cowboys source didn't seem to be optimistic that a deal was imminent, but told ESPN.com's John Clayton, "we're the only fish nibbling."
Jones, the Titans' suspended cornerback, may not be reinstated by the NFL before the start of training camp although if a trade happens, a source said, the commissioner might allow Jones to train at the new team's facility in order to give him a potentially good environment.

Goodell was going to allow Jones to train at the Titans facility during the offseason, but revoked that privilege when it came to his attention Jones was at a strip club at the beginning of the year.

The Titans are seeking a fourth-round pick in this year's draft and a fourth-round pick in 2009, according to the source. The Cowboys are so far unwilling to provide either, believing they are the only team pursuing Jones.
A Titans source told ESPN.com's Matt Mosley that there is a feeling within the organization that Jones cannot be reformed and should be traded even though at least one Tennessee defensive starter says players would embrace Jones' return to the team.

Jones said last week in a radio interview with Cowboys Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin that he wants to resume his career in Dallas. Jones intends to apply for reinstatement sometime before the April 26-27 draft.

"Dallas, they know the consequences [of a trade] and the status of the player," Goodell said Monday. "I don't feel any obligation to do more than I said, to reconsider his status. I have made no commitment."
 

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the consequences of the trade. this is something no one will acknowledge on this board, that he could cost us a draft pick in the future if he were to screw up. Norm was talking about it today.

Imagine we give up a 4th for him this year and then he gets in trouble and they dock us a 3rd next year. That is the kind of thing vinny cerrato would be proud of.
 

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Imagine drafting a kick retuner in the 4th rd that gets cuts before the season begins :rolleyes:
 

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PALM BEACH, Fla. - Roger Goodell did something different Monday to open the NFL's annual meeting.

Rather than deliver a lengthy state-of-the-union address, the commissioner only spoke briefly before introducing top NFL executives who are spearheading various league initiatives. According to two team executives in attendance, the personal conduct policy that Goodell instituted last year was a common thread during those discussions.

Jerry Jones is undermining Goodell's efforts by actively pursuing Exhibit A for player misdeeds: Pacman Jones. Dallas remains in trade talks with Tennessee for Jones, who remains under NFL suspension for a slew of arrests, outrageous off-field behavior and — in Goodell's eyes — a lack of remorse.

"I've always said that he has to accept responsibilities for his actions," Goodell said at an afternoon news conference. "When he does, I will reconsider his status."

Goodell said that won't happen before April's draft. But even if he doesn't rule until the start of training camp — which is Goodell's deadline — Jones may already be in Dallas. NFL rules don't prohibit trading the contract of a suspended player.

Pacman Jones seems so confident that he will become a Cowboy that he reportedly signed autographs Saturday night with No. 21, which is the jersey Deion Sanders wore while with Dallas.

From strictly a football standpoint, Dallas' interest is understandable. Jones is a young player (24) with game-breaking talent who can be had on the cheap. He is slated to earn just $1.29 million in 2008 and under contract for modest salaries two more seasons.

Jones would be a bargain provided his football skills haven't eroded during a suspension that dates back to last April. Off-field problems have overshadowed the fact Jones was blossoming in the same fashion as Chicago's Devin Hester. Jones returned an NFL-high three punts for touchdowns in 2006 and, unlike Hester, proved he could be a quality starting cornerback.

Even with the embarrassment he caused the franchise, Tennessee missed Jones in 2007. Titans defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch spoke in late December about the impact Jones could have made if used on an offense lacking big-play threats in the same way Chicago deployed Hester. Weeks later, the Titans squandered a staunch defensive effort when scoring only six points in a first-round playoff loss at San Diego.

Jones would clearly draw huge headlines upon his arrival in Dallas. But the Cowboys are one of the few teams where he could eventually fade from the spotlight because of the attention drawn by other colorful characters in the locker room. Once-suspended defensive tackle Tank Johnson was quietly able to resuscitate his NFL career last season while Terrell Owens and the Tony Romo-Jessica Simpson romance captured the media's fancy. Former Cowboys Sanders, Michael Irvin and Calvin Hill — who has drawn high praise for his consulting work with Dallas' off-field player development program — also could provide Jones a strong support group.

Should he screw up again, the Cowboys could release Jones and take no lingering salary cap hit. The Titans don't enjoy that luxury from having given him significant guaranteed money as part of a lucrative rookie contract. Tennessee will reportedly take a $5.4 million cap charge by parting ways with Jones this season.

But just because acquiring Jones makes sense for the Cowboys doesn't make it right — especially while he is barred.
 

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theebs;2021844 said:
the consequences of the trade. this is something no one will acknowledge on this board, that he could cost us a draft pick in the future if he were to screw up. Norm was talking about it today.

Imagine we give up a 4th for him this year and then he gets in trouble and they dock us a 3rd next year. That is the kind of thing vinny cerrato would be proud of.

Would you rather win with a-holes or lose with good guys? Players you like and would want to hang out with.

What I think you fail to realize is that every NFL team has both types. I'll take a few more a-holes and a SB win.

As far as the risk in this deal, its real. There is a significant chance this does not end well for the Cowboys. But that's what championships are built on. Risks taken that work out.
 

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sonnyboy;2021862 said:
Would you rather win with a-holes or lose with good guys? Players you like and would want to hang out with.

What I think you fail to realize is that every NFL team has both types. I'll take a few more a-holes and a SB win.

As far as the risk in this deal, its real. There is a significant chance this does not end well for the Cowboys. But that's what championships are built on. Risks taken that work out.


Or they could be built on hard work, smart scouting and drafting, excellent development and coaching and ultimately the patience to let a team take its natural course.

hey the guy may turn out to be an all pro. Or he could turn out to be a very rusty average guy all of next season who makes mental errors when in the game from all the media attention and the microscope on him. And who knows, he could get in trouble and cost us a 3rd next year.

I would rather keep taking my chances with good guys. The ones who have been drafted in the past 4 years. With the amount of picks we have this year there is no reason this organization has to panic and start giving picks away for proven players.
 
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